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JP-pornshooter 10-03-2008 12:07 PM

hmm seems like relatively small fines and min security, isnt that similar to that milf who did time for some insider trading (martha stewart).

Fresh 10-03-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 14850409)

looks like a confrontation :upsidedow

2012 10-03-2008 12:11 PM

let that be a lesson to all you mavericks out there ya'hea ... freedom of speech and all just watch what you say and do little buckaroos ! smoke it outta your hole

Vagisil 10-03-2008 12:12 PM

hehe the fall of america is still in effect.. get out now while you canssss!

Evil Chris 10-03-2008 12:16 PM

haha... thanks Steve. I remember that night.

Darkland 10-03-2008 12:17 PM

Well if this is the same dude they talk about in this thread it is no wonder he is doing time. I saw the video when it was still available and couldn't watch it all and I like me some rough stuff.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/814434-legal-porn-real-rape-video.html

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 14850411)
Four years of your life because you filmed something that someone didn't like.

And...

Selling Reality based
Incest Videos.
Rape.
Violence towards women ( thats mildly putting it ).

In some cases women were brutally beaten, pissed on, slapped, the list goes on and on when it comes to violent behavior towards women.

Some models that shot with Max have considered filing rape charges over the years, some needed medical attention, some suffered severe anal bleeding and many many of them suffer to this day a post traumatic problem from the events in the making of a MaxHardcore Video. All of this is well documented. There is a point where you make a porn film for it's creative merit then there is creating a video of a pure psychotic nature that is severely inhumane. Max Hardcore is a mother fucking fruit cake that fit's Serial killer qualities and mindset.

The guy is not a pornographer, unless you consider that just because he got a video camara and filmed what he did to girls is just a free pass to destroy someone in the most inhumane violent ways for the whole world to see at a profit...

I am certain many legitamate Video makers in LA are breathing in silent approval from these events and with good reason.

Rorschach 10-03-2008 12:39 PM

It's a bummer to see someone from the adult industry go down, but the guy was literally a rapist. His content really was a microniche and not representative of porn as a whole. If you've seen the way he treats his models, and the way he is almost frothing at the mouth in excitement while he pisses on them / anally rapes them etc - he deserved to go down.

JFK 10-03-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 14850178)
Good thing this is still a free country...


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no shit ..............:(

xxweekxx 10-03-2008 12:49 PM

omg all u fucking narrow minded fucks..

THE GIRLS AGREED/CONSENTED/WERE PAID.. seriously speaking

if i pay a girl money, and tell her im gonna shit on her, piss on her, then fuck her in the ass till she bleeds, and she agrees, how the fuck is that illegal??

people sell their body parts everytime for money.. its all about CONSENT.

Land of the free my ass?? IF i pay YOU AND YOU AGREE, WTF Is the problem.

RAPE is when you fuck a girl and she didnt consent, thast a crime.. now if i "pretend"to rape a girl but afterwards pay her, then wtf is the problem.. man fuck all you narrow minded fucks...republican sons of biatches

SBJ 10-03-2008 12:51 PM

wow sucks to be him


50!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 14850631)
omg all u fucking narrow minded fucks..

THE GIRLS AGREED/CONSENTED/WERE PAID.. seriously speaking

if i pay a girl money, and tell her im gonna shit on her, piss on her, then fuck her in the ass till she bleeds, and she agrees, how the fuck is that illegal??

people sell their body parts everytime for money.. its all about CONSENT.

Land of the free my ass?? IF i pay YOU AND YOU AGREE, WTF Is the problem.

RAPE is when you fuck a girl and she didnt consent, thast a crime.. now if i "pretend"to rape a girl but afterwards pay her, then wtf is the problem.. man fuck all you narrow minded fucks...republican sons of biatches

Well actually its like Paying someone to hurt themselves in some manor and putting it on video for the sake of free speech... This goes beyond Jack Ass type video.

And Actually many of the girls were not fully disclosed as to the exact nature of what was going to happen to them. Sure in some cases girls were told it can be violent or rough but those two words do not exactly give justice to what happened to some of these models.

However none of what we are talking has anything to do with why Max is Locked up. Max was locked up for distribution of these materials to places where they are prohibited. This discussion does not address that and we assume it's the violent nature of his videos. Reality is... Where he was selling the video's was the problem.

Rorschach 10-03-2008 12:54 PM

If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

xxweekxx 10-03-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14850646)
Well actually its like Paying someone to hurt themselves in some manor and putting it on video for the sake of free speech... This goes beyond Jack Ass type video.

And Actually many of the girls were not fully disclosed as to the exact nature of what was going to happen to them. Sure in some cases girls were told it can be violent or rough but those two words do not exactly give justice to what happened to some of these models.

However none of what we are talking has anything to do with why Max is Locked up. Max was locked up for distribution of these materials to places where they are prohibited. This discussion does not address that and we assume it's the violent nature of his videos. Reality is... Where he was selling the video's was the problem.

ah gotcha then.. i stand corrected.. he shouldnt have sold videos where they werent allowed.. I thought he was going to jail for "rough" sex with models..

BlackCrayon 10-03-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14850364)
I do not think ya people realise what this guy did.

Good ridance MaxHardcore hope ya get ass raped in that place.

Theres way worse out there. :2 cents:

seeric 10-03-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 14850409)

back story please?

those are serious looking faces.

i live here in the valley and some of the things i've heard about him don't make me want to be buddies with him.

anyway, good luck to him.

directfiesta 10-03-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 14850665)
ah gotcha then.. i stand corrected.. he shouldnt have sold videos where they werent allowed.. I thought he was going to jail for "rough" sex with models..

He didn't ship them, they did:

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How do you ship product?
All packages are discretely shipped out of the Los Angeles area via USPS (The Post Office) using Priority Mail. We ship to residential, business, postal centers, post office boxes, and military. We ship to the United States and various International destinations. We offer free domestic shipping to the United States on orders $100 or more. Orders domestically take about 3 days to process and 1-3 days to ship via Priority Mail. We ship Monday-Saturday with Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday being the heavier shipping days.



and they still do :

http://jadedvideo.com/Search?q=max+hardcore&x=0&y=0

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2008 01:07 PM

The worst part is that this is not over

There is a webmaster who post here and lives in the gainesville / ocala area and he along with his girlfriend are under investigation and the state / fed is building a case against him.

I work with a lot of lawyers and when I found out via the llegal grapevine that this person would soon be looking at an unbeatable case... I nearly shit my pants

...... then I laughed

If not for potential of being charged with obstruction of justice I might have warned him or put in a good word but the guy has never given me anything but a hard time:2 cents::2 cents:


If you do not have an attorney... you should not be in this biz... a good attorney

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 14850631)
omg all u fucking narrow minded fucks..

THE GIRLS AGREED/CONSENTED/WERE PAID.. seriously speaking

if i pay a girl money, and tell her im gonna shit on her, piss on her, then fuck her in the ass till she bleeds, and she agrees, how the fuck is that illegal??

people sell their body parts everytime for money.. its all about CONSENT.

Land of the free my ass?? IF i pay YOU AND YOU AGREE, WTF Is the problem.

RAPE is when you fuck a girl and she didnt consent, thast a crime.. now if i "pretend"to rape a girl but afterwards pay her, then wtf is the problem.. man fuck all you narrow minded fucks...republican sons of biatches



You saved me a few minutes of posting. hehe

Ill add that porn is FUCKING FANTASY. Im not a fan of his films either, but as long as it is all consensual so be it.

Fucking porn morality police crack me up.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 14850680)
back story please?

those are serious looking faces.

i live here in the valley and some of the things i've heard about him don't make me want to be buddies with him.

anyway, good luck to him.

That was the day when Wiseman and Steve should have kicked the living shit out of that goon.

moneybiz 10-03-2008 01:09 PM

good I love good news.

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach (Post 14850650)
If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

Max made content for degenerates and it tarnished the image and ability of webmasters to operate legitimate businesses.

From what I understood they have safe words they use, and he gives the models breaks during the shoots. There was a big thread about the video in question and Max answered to everyones questions back then.

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 14850409)

Anyone know the guys name on the far right? I knew a guy that could be his twin. His first name was Rob I believe.

seeric 10-03-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14850702)
That was the day when Wiseman and Steve should have kicked the living shit out of that goon.

what did he do?

Honez 10-03-2008 01:17 PM

46 months in Club Fed. Wow

Honez 10-03-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14850719)
Anyone know the guys name on the far right? I knew a guy that could be his twin. His first name was Rob I believe.

That's Bryan Y

directfiesta 10-03-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14850713)
From what I understood they have safe words they use, and he gives the models breaks during the shoots. There was a big thread about the video in question and Max answered to everyones questions back then.


You are 100% right :thumbsup

nation-x 10-03-2008 01:22 PM

I can't believe you stupid fucks are still defending this scumbag... I hope he thinks long and hard about his life. I watched a bunch of the stuff he filmed and some of it is just unreal... and clearly obscene. I will gladly accept your ridicule for standing up against shit like this. It's not porn... it's soft snuff. It's violence.

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Honez (Post 14850748)
That's Bryan Y

Ok boy he has a twin. hehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14850747)
You are 100% right :thumbsup

Just gets old when people throw shit around when they don't know the facts hehe. :winkwink:

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14850763)
I can't believe you stupid fucks are still defending this scumbag... I hope he thinks long and hard about his life. I watched a bunch of the stuff he filmed and some of it is just unreal... and clearly obscene. I will gladly accept your ridicule for standing up against shit like this. It's not porn... it's soft snuff. It's violence.

Clearly obscene to who?

Darkland 10-03-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14850776)
Clearly obscene to who?

Apparently you have never heard of Community Standards

You think it is illegal to ship to certain places for no fucking reason at all?

Mutt 10-03-2008 01:31 PM

why does everybody on this board have to miss the point on everything?

there are OBSCENITY LAWS in the United States, always have been always will be, and for the non-Americans going 'tsk tsk' your countries have obscenity laws on the books too and people are charged in your countries.

The American porn industry and its lawyers have been warning producers for years about 'extreme' porn and the risks in producing and marketing it - there's a list every distributor has with zip codes in areas not to send pornography into.

A jury of his peers found what Max Hardcore produces to be obscene - end of story. Nothing to feel bad about or feel sorry for him for.

If the federal government applied the law wrong in his case he can appeal.

HomerSimpson 10-03-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rorschach (Post 14850650)
If a girl is genuinely crying and is in obvious distress, the technicality of money having changed hands doesn't make it any less forced. If, while Max is throatfucking her so she can't breath, she begs him to stop and he doesn't, that's rape. Payment doesn't make the issue of coercion any less real in the moment... It just means the girl is getting paid to get raped, rather than getting raped and no money changing hands.

I agree to every word the above...

escorpio 10-03-2008 01:53 PM

He's a piece of shit. Fuck him.

Jim_Gunn 10-03-2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 14850817)
why does everybody on this board have to miss the point on everything?

there are OBSCENITY LAWS in the United States, always have been always will be, and for the non-Americans going 'tsk tsk' your countries have obscenity laws on the books too and people are charged in your countries.

The American porn industry and its lawyers have been warning producers for years about 'extreme' porn and the risks in producing and marketing it - there's a list every distributor has with zip codes in areas not to send pornography into.

A jury of his peers found what Max Hardcore produces to be obscene - end of story. Nothing to feel bad about or feel sorry for him for.

If the federal government applied the law wrong in his case he can appeal.

Mutt, the problem is that there isn't really an obscenity law. It's just some vague bullshit that some judges can apply to anyone at any time with no real guidelines that one can diligently follow with forewarning. Even the most vanilla porn could be considered obscene. And the idea that a porn movie could be legal in one area and obscene in another city or state is preposterous. Max didn't even ship the damn movie in question, another company did. I am not defending his content specifically, but the whole thing is a travesty of justice.

fuzebox 10-03-2008 02:24 PM

Stagliano is facing similar charges for DVDs featuring milk enemas. Once they've got their foot in the door (ie. precedent), no one is safe. The government doesn't care if you are throatfucking crying girls or doing teen POV blowjobs. Wake up people :Oh crap

tony286 10-03-2008 02:38 PM

remember to vote republican.

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14850963)
Mutt, the problem is that there isn't really an obscenity law. It's just some vague bullshit that some judges can apply to anyone at any time with no real guidelines that one can diligently follow with forewarning. Even the most vanilla porn could be considered obscene. And the idea that a porn movie could be legal in one area and obscene in another city or state is preposterous. Max didn't even ship the damn movie in question, another company did. I am not defending his content specifically, but the whole thing is a travesty of justice.

Exactly. Without a CLEAR definition of obscenity on the books how can they lock up a guy for 4 years? Having a gf that loves rough sex I know from experience that what some see as obscene is just other peoples preference. So you get a jury with 12 fuddy duddies that think ALL porn is obscene and it could be anyone of us in jail. :disgust

stickyfingerz 10-03-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14851126)
remember to vote republican.

I agree. With all the pro porn laws passed by the dems I don't see how any of us can vote republican.


















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Pics Traffic 10-03-2008 02:43 PM

wow, thats insane.


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