CCbill VS, ProBilling, Globill Systems, PSW Billing, 2000Charge ,and Netbilling. - GoFuckYourself.com

kelry · 11-01-2002, 06:05 AM

To whom it may concern.

Due to new VISA regulations that effect to all webmaster in Asia and Australia, I am thinking about using a new process agent. Could you please reccomment or give me some advice between CCbill VS, ProBilling, Globill Systems, PSW Billing, 2000Charge ,and Netbilling. What are their weak points, or strong point. your experience or etc to help me decide what is the best process agent that i can use instead of CCbill.

Thank you

Dianna Vesta · 11-01-2002, 06:10 AM

Why don't you apply for your own merchant accounts in off shore banks and use a secure gateway that manages members and scrubs?

If you could and only pay 10 cents per transaction would you?

Dianna Vesta

kelry · 11-01-2002, 06:17 AM

By the way, i heard that 2000Charge.com can process visa and korea card for Asian. Beside, they can process EU-Debit too.

By the way, i need some ideal form person who used to use or have some experience form usinf 2000Charge.com

garry · 11-01-2002, 06:18 AM

Hi there

Why just rely on just one of them ? Why not try the mpa2 program ? This allowes you to use Epoch, CCBill and PSW. And not only that, but you can use them all 3 at the same time with cascading. Choose the processor that gives you the best signup ratio as the first processor then if that one deosnt want their credit card it will automatically try the next one, and then the next one. At least 20% more signups because of the cascading. And another good thing is that you dont have to rely on only one processor then to handle your business

And yeah, you can also use Check, Dialer AND Paypal as well

Plus LOADS of other features.

Take a look at
http://www.mansionproductions.com/mpa2.html

And feel free to contact me on ICQ if you like # 11564972

garry · 11-01-2002, 06:20 AM

Damn,, I forgot to mention...

WE will cover all the visa fees for you if you rent the mpa2 program

Meaning that we will pay it for you for all 3 processors !

XXX_Jman · 11-01-2002, 06:23 AM

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Originally posted by Dianna Vesta
10 cents per transaction
Dianna Vesta

My quotes from companies like Netbilling etc are a lot more than 10 cents per trans for merchant account set ups...

If you are in Aust you would need to incorp in the UK to have a proper merchant account for adult internet services anyway, and you will get no fraud prevention from the Aust banks...

You are far better off IMHO to use someone like ACpay, Globill or Probilling

XXX_Jman · 11-01-2002, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by garry
Hi there

Why just rely on just one of them ? Why not try the mpa2 program ? This allowes you to use Epoch, CCBill and PSW. And not only that, but you can use them all 3 at the same time with cascading. Choose the processor that gives you the best signup ratio as the first processor then if that one deosnt want their credit card it will automatically try the next one, and then the next one. At least 20% more signups because of the cascading. And another good thing is that you dont have to rely on only one processor then to handle your business

And yeah, you can also use Check, Dialer AND Paypal as well

Plus LOADS of other features.
Take a look at
http://www.mansionproductions.com/mpa2.html

And feel free to contact me on ICQ if you like # 11564972

....except he/she would have to incorporate in the US....

kelry · 11-01-2002, 06:29 AM

I forgot to mention that i live in Asian. So, it's not easy for us to deligate agnet in U.K. or in US. But thank for your advices.

By the way, i just read 2000charge ads, Are they rally good as they said? because i heard that Topbucks just quit form using 2000charge as they secondary process agent.

Best regards.

XXX_Jman · 11-01-2002, 06:36 AM

Your better with an International processor (not just US based)....I would go with one of my recommendations above...ACpay, Globill or Probilling

kelry · 11-01-2002, 06:48 AM

Thank you XXX_Jman for your advice

By the way, the only think that you don't recommend Netbilling because they charge too much for merchant account, right?

By the way, Does globill or ACbill will accept me if i do not have any merchant account?

(Adult sites are illegal in some of Asian Countries.)

Bear · 11-01-2002, 06:56 AM

Hi kelry,

could you mind to tell me which country you from?

XXX_Jman · 11-01-2002, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
By the way, the only think that you don't recommend Netbilling because they charge too much for merchant account, right?

What I was saying, was that Netbilling certainly costs more than 10 cents a trans....more like $0.45 cents plus much more if you require their customer service etc Then there are set up costs...plus you would have to check with them on where they could set up a banking relationship for you etc

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
By the way, Does globill or ACbill will accept me if i do not have any merchant account?
(Adult sites are illegal in some of Asian Countries.)

You don't need any merchant account with a 3rd party processor....and it's ACpay...

Madball · 11-01-2002, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
Thank you XXX_Jman for your advice

By the way, the only think that you don't recommend Netbilling because they charge too much for merchant account, right?

1. Netbilling themselves don't "sell" any merchant accounts (i think). They will help you get set up though.
2. Netbilling has no affiliate program for webmasters. If you want afflliates to promote your site you gotta use some sales tracking software & cut your own checks.

By the way, Does globill or ACbill will accept me if i do not have any merchant account? (Adult sites are illegal in some of Asian Countries.)

Both Globill and ACPAY do nor need any merchant accounts not do you need any corporate US presence with them (as of now). According to ACPAY, they will also allow check processing in the near future (currently, they only do Visa & MC)

garry · 11-01-2002, 08:12 AM

XXX_Jman that is true. BUT we can also add 3 non US based processors to

We are actually in the process of adding netbillings system now, so you can also have your own merchant, and then choose two other processors for it to cascade to if your merchant dont want them...

kelry · 11-01-2002, 08:52 AM

Hi

Due to most of my clients are Japanese and Korean, Do ACpay, Netbilling, and Probilling can process credit card form this 2 countries (maybe china in the future)?

kelry · 11-01-2002, 08:56 AM

To everybody.

It had been confirmed that PSW Billing can not process visa for any website whose webmaster is not US citizen.

Bear · 11-01-2002, 08:58 AM

Yes, they can if they use credit card.

But i don't know why most korean card will got rejected.

Verotel and 2000charge can process korean cards. I just don't know whether 2000charge is good or not.

kelry · 11-01-2002, 08:59 AM

Moreover, i just talk to sale of globill and they said that they can not precess any website whose webmaster live in Asia, expecially in South East Asia.

HustlazConvention · 11-01-2002, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
Moreover, i just talk to sale of globill and they said that they can not precess any website whose webmaster live in Asia, expecially in South East Asia.

too many scammers..

XXX_Jman · 11-01-2002, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by garry
XXX_Jman that is true. BUT we can also add 3 non US based processors to
We are actually in the process of adding netbillings system now, so you can also have your own merchant, and then choose two other processors for it to cascade to if your merchant dont want them...

Cool....sounds good.

Petr · 11-01-2002, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
To everybody.

It had been confirmed that PSW Billing can not process visa for any website whose webmaster is not US citizen.

This is completely untrue.

Timothy · 11-01-2002, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Petr

This is completely untrue.

How do you make sure they do process VISA card for the asian webmaster??

Gary! I've seen topbucks uses the swap processors system like yours. Are they one of your customer? Besides i think $300 monthly is very expensive for smaller sites.

richard123 · 11-01-2002, 03:29 PM

I just set up a site with probilling. They're easy to use and cheap. I will probably use them as my no.1 and acpay as no.2.

Probilling are working very hard and fast to get their system up to where it needs to be (i.e. customized signup pages etc.) but still lag a bit on the affiliate program side. They say their affiliate program will be upgraded in about 2 weeks. Judging by their progress so far, I believe them.

They have an open forum: http://www.probilling.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

Petr · 11-01-2002, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timothy

How do you make sure they do process VISA card for the asian webmaster??

??? I have absolutely no idea what you mean.

Kelry posted <i>"It had been confirmed that PSW Billing can not process visa for any website whose webmaster is not US citizen"</i>

I checked with PSW and they said this statement was completely false.

That's it.

ozzymandius · 11-01-2002, 03:52 PM

Glo-Bill all the way. No contest.

steffie · 11-01-2002, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
To everybody.

It had been confirmed that PSW Billing can not process visa for any website whose webmaster is not US citizen.

I don't know who told you that, but it is NOT true!

Kimmykim · 11-01-2002, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kelry
Hi

Due to most of my clients are Japanese and Korean, Do ACpay, Netbilling, and Probilling can process credit card form this 2 countries (maybe china in the future)?

If most of your clients are Japanese and Korean, why are you not pushing JCB and Samsung? Two cards that CCBill takes btw.

Timothy · 11-02-2002, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

If most of your clients are Japanese and Korean, why are you not pushing JCB and Samsung? Two cards that CCBill takes btw.

As you said, ccbill can process korean debit card but i have never seen the option to pay by that debit card in ccbill join page Could you give me any advice about that?

Petr · 11-03-2002, 03:00 AM

Timothy, once again - debit cards are accepted the same way as credit card. Only with debit cards you pay with your own money, with credit cards you pay with borrowed money.

You probably mean "ATM cards", not debit cards.

markusborger · 11-03-2002, 08:39 AM

hey mates!

Anyone tried DiBill???

HustlazConvention · 11-03-2002, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by markusborger
hey mates!
Anyone tried DiBill???

umm...no

11-01-2002, 06:05 AM	#1
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	CCbill VS, ProBilling, Globill Systems, PSW Billing, 2000Charge ,and Netbilling. To whom it may concern. Due to new VISA regulations that effect to all webmaster in Asia and Australia, I am thinking about using a new process agent. Could you please reccomment or give me some advice between CCbill VS, ProBilling, Globill Systems, PSW Billing, 2000Charge ,and Netbilling. What are their weak points, or strong point. your experience or etc to help me decide what is the best process agent that i can use instead of CCbill. Thank you

11-01-2002, 06:10 AM	#2
Dianna Vesta Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 89	Why don't you apply for your own merchant accounts in off shore banks and use a secure gateway that manages members and scrubs? If you could and only pay 10 cents per transaction would you? Dianna Vesta __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-01-2002, 06:18 AM	#4
garry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 680	Hi there Why just rely on just one of them ? Why not try the mpa2 program ? This allowes you to use Epoch, CCBill and PSW. And not only that, but you can use them all 3 at the same time with cascading. Choose the processor that gives you the best signup ratio as the first processor then if that one deosnt want their credit card it will automatically try the next one, and then the next one. At least 20% more signups because of the cascading. And another good thing is that you dont have to rely on only one processor then to handle your business And yeah, you can also use Check, Dialer AND Paypal as well Plus LOADS of other features. Take a look at http://www.mansionproductions.com/mpa2.html And feel free to contact me on ICQ if you like # 11564972 __________________ The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!" Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

11-01-2002, 06:20 AM	#5
garry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 680	Damn,, I forgot to mention... WE will cover all the visa fees for you if you rent the mpa2 program Meaning that we will pay it for you for all 3 processors ! __________________ The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!" Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

11-01-2002, 06:36 AM	#9
XXX_Jman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Up my own ass Posts: 213	Your better with an International processor (not just US based)....I would go with one of my recommendations above...ACpay, Globill or Probilling __________________ XXX_Jman "To win without fighting is best"

11-01-2002, 06:17 AM	#3
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	By the way, i heard that 2000Charge.com can process visa and korea card for Asian. Beside, they can process EU-Debit too. By the way, i need some ideal form person who used to use or have some experience form usinf 2000Charge.com

11-01-2002, 06:29 AM	#8
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	I forgot to mention that i live in Asian. So, it's not easy for us to deligate agnet in U.K. or in US. But thank for your advices. By the way, i just read 2000charge ads, Are they rally good as they said? because i heard that Topbucks just quit form using 2000charge as they secondary process agent. Best regards.

11-01-2002, 06:48 AM	#10
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	Thank you XXX_Jman for your advice By the way, the only think that you don't recommend Netbilling because they charge too much for merchant account, right? By the way, Does globill or ACbill will accept me if i do not have any merchant account? (Adult sites are illegal in some of Asian Countries.)

11-01-2002, 06:56 AM	#11
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	Hi kelry, could you mind to tell me which country you from?

11-01-2002, 08:12 AM	#14
garry Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 680	XXX_Jman that is true. BUT we can also add 3 non US based processors to We are actually in the process of adding netbillings system now, so you can also have your own merchant, and then choose two other processors for it to cascade to if your merchant dont want them... __________________ The Creator Of THE STANDARD* *in Affiliate Program Software - We make affiliates and program owners more money! MPA3® – Anything Else Is A Replica Choose between our impressive lineup of software's: MPA3® PRO - MPA3® ENTERPRISE - MPA3® Standard -MAS® CMS - and topping it off with amazing DESIGN, Consulting and Webmaster Services! "Your Mansion of Opportunities!" Around since 1997 and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" to the industry. MPA3® V5 - The most intuitive Affiliate Program Software ever made - MPA3® V5 – Anything Else Is A Replica

11-01-2002, 08:52 AM	#15
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	Hi Due to most of my clients are Japanese and Korean, Do ACpay, Netbilling, and Probilling can process credit card form this 2 countries (maybe china in the future)?

11-01-2002, 08:56 AM	#16
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	To everybody. It had been confirmed that PSW Billing can not process visa for any website whose webmaster is not US citizen.

11-01-2002, 08:58 AM	#17
Bear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 261	Yes, they can if they use credit card. But i don't know why most korean card will got rejected. Verotel and 2000charge can process korean cards. I just don't know whether 2000charge is good or not.

11-01-2002, 08:59 AM	#18
kelry Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BKK Posts: 23	Moreover, i just talk to sale of globill and they said that they can not precess any website whose webmaster live in Asia, expecially in South East Asia.

11-01-2002, 03:29 PM	#23
richard123 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 491	I just set up a site with probilling. They're easy to use and cheap. I will probably use them as my no.1 and acpay as no.2. Probilling are working very hard and fast to get their system up to where it needs to be (i.e. customized signup pages etc.) but still lag a bit on the affiliate program side. They say their affiliate program will be upgraded in about 2 weeks. Judging by their progress so far, I believe them. They have an open forum: http://www.probilling.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

11-01-2002, 03:52 PM	#25
ozzymandius Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 111	Glo-Bill all the way. No contest.

11-03-2002, 03:00 AM	#29
Petr Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 502	Timothy, once again - debit cards are accepted the same way as credit card. Only with debit cards you pay with your own money, with credit cards you pay with borrowed money. You probably mean "ATM cards", not debit cards.

11-03-2002, 08:39 AM	#30
markusborger So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 145	hey mates! Anyone tried DiBill???