Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar Mark Forums Read
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 09-12-2008, 03:47 AM   #1
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
WegCash scrapping and cloacking ? Drama?

Ok, do a Google search for "Hanging by the tits"

In third position, here I'm, Missxtreme.com, with my original text "She is hanging by the Tits. Then the tortures starts.She is inserted with the foley catheters and forced to ripped them out though her Pee Hole, ..."

In 10th position there is "a site" with my original text as description + some more text scrapped from my site.

If you click on the "blue link" it redirects you to a teen tube site, this site has a webmaster link, with no ref code, to wegcash

If you copy paste open new tab the "html green link", you go to some other page...where my text is not showing...

My question is, the 10 th result in the SERP page is showing a site, displaying my original text as their description and redirecting to a teen tube site "allegedly" own by wegcash ?

Is wegcash scrapping my site (and maybe yours) and cloaking or is this just a in unfortunate coincidence?

Explanation welcome
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 05:30 AM   #2
~Ray
visit hardlinks.org
 
~Ray's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Las Vegas , Nv >>> [email protected] or icq 94994627 anytime
Posts: 18,362
let's have a snack while we wait...

~Ray is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 05:36 AM   #3
- Jesus Christ -
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: ::::::::::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: ::::::||||||||||||:::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: :::::::::::||::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::
Posts: 7,197
Doesn't necessarily mean WegCash is the culprit but it defiantly deserves further investigation.
Who owns the "cloaked" domain?

...er I mean...

SEE SIG!!!
__________________

Amen

Last edited by - Jesus Christ -; 09-12-2008 at 05:37 AM..
- Jesus Christ - is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 05:46 AM   #4
seeandsee
Check SIG!
 
seeandsee's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas)
Posts: 50,945
fbi files
__________________
BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year

Contact here
seeandsee is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 07:01 AM   #5
HomerSimpson
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
HomerSimpson's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Springfield
Posts: 13,826
did they just bought some Russian script and started "crawling" for text...
__________________
Make a bank with Chaturbate - the best selling webcam program
Ads that can't be block with AdBlockers !!! /// Best paying popup program (Bitcoin payouts) !!!

PHP, MySql, Smarty, CodeIgniter, Laravel, WordPress, NATS... fixing stuff, server migrations & optimizations... My ICQ: 27429884 | Email:
HomerSimpson is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 11:17 AM   #6
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Bump for explanations from wegcash
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 11:32 AM   #7
RuthB
Let's Get Paxumized!
 
RuthB's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 7,247
Hi majortom.. no this is not something that we will EVER do to webmasters. WEGCash supports our webmasters and we want them to be successful through legitimate promotional methods only.

Please add me on ICQ (#233-854-608) or email me ([email protected]) to show me the full details of the info contained in this thread and I'll have the situation investigated. I could not duplicate your results through the search I did, so would definitely appreciate further info (if you have screencaps that would be handy)

Thanks
__________________
Send & Receive Mass Global Payments - Mass P2P/Wire/EFT/SEPA - Adult Industry Friendly - Award Winning Payment Service - Fast, Reliable & Secure!
Paxum ...... Paxum Bank
Email: [email protected] ~ Telegram: PaxumRuth
RuthB is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:01 PM   #8
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Hi Ruth

Glad to here from you. Will add you on ICQ

Here are the screens shots




__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:10 PM   #9
Xrated J
Confirmed User
 
Xrated J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 4,347
WEGcash is a great program. i doubt this is intensional.
Xrated J is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:15 PM   #10
Dennis Rodman
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,060
Not for nothing, but in one of the screenshots I happend to look at it - the URL appears to be in a members directory. Not looking at your site in the past, is the ../members/.. area password protected?

If so? Where is your 403 redirects being sent to? Just a thought.
Dennis Rodman is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:19 PM   #11
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
When I'm clicking on the blue link of the 10th result "Hanging Tits"
with my slow internet, I can see the redirect to
http://www.universalpass.com/redirects/wegcash/78.html

then I land on
http://www.teentube4free.com/_B64S_Y...warn Disp=yes

I might get geo targeted because I live in SEA

When I open the green link of the 10th result I get to
http://www.0040anal.com/rssfeed/hanging-tits.html

Very weird looking page..with a weird 2257

Thanks for looking into it.
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:26 PM   #12
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis Rodman View Post
Not for nothing, but in one of the screenshots I happend to look at it - the URL appears to be in a members directory. Not looking at your site in the past, is the ../members/.. area password protected?

If so? Where is your 403 redirects being sent to? Just a thought.
Nope nothing to do with that ../members/.. is open...
try it you will see
the real member area is another place.

The problem is
1-)With the duplicate text. How come the description on the 10th site is -word for word- lifted from my site
2-)If you click on the blue link of the 10th site..I get to a teen tube site that looks like a wegcash site..hint: the $webmater$ link as no ref code...
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:26 PM   #13
PR_Sebas
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,825
interesting, but I highly doubt it weg
__________________
PR_Sebas is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:30 PM   #14
BusterBunny
perverted justice decoy
 
BusterBunny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: unborn still in the womb connected via blackberry
Posts: 19,291
on a side note "ripped" should be present tense
__________________
my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died
BusterBunny is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 12:45 PM   #15
Brujah
Beer Money Baron
 
Brujah's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: brujah / gmail
Posts: 22,157
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
When I'm clicking on the blue link of the 10th result "Hanging Tits"
with my slow internet, I can see the redirect to
http://www.universalpass.com/redirects/wegcash/78.html

then I land on
http://www.teentube4free.com/_B64S_Y...warn Disp=yes

I might get geo targeted because I live in SEA

When I open the green link of the 10th result I get to
http://www.0040anal.com/rssfeed/hanging-tits.html

Very weird looking page..with a weird 2257

Thanks for looking into it.
I get these results too, from Florida. Clicking from Google takes me to
http://www.universalpass.com/redirects/wegcash/78.html

Clicking from this thread takes me to the real cloaked page.
__________________
Brujah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 01:03 PM   #16
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah View Post
I get these results too, from Florida. Clicking from Google takes me to
http://www.universalpass.com/redirects/wegcash/78.html

Clicking from this thread takes me to the real cloaked page.
Thanks, so it's not be in da bad country...

Damn cloaking softwares, you have to leave them on "not-cloaking" for a few days or weeks before they get a good hook on the SERP, before turning them on full claoking..that can leaves tracks...so I've read on the inner-webs


I'm sure wegcash is investigating too...and will keep us updated on that funny SERP
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 01:25 PM   #17
slavdogg
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,570
hanging by the Tits, is the new national sport in Angola

any evidence of Gabe or Cory partaking in such a sport ?
__________________
Adult Traffic for Sale
slavdogg is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 01:37 PM   #18
Cory W
Deeply shallow
 
Cory W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hollywood, Ca.
Posts: 9,133
It's an affiliate. We will take care of it.

Thanks,
__________________
ICQ: 292310358
Offering writing and content services (mainstream).
Marketing for L3 Payments
Cory W is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 01:38 PM   #19
Cory W
Deeply shallow
 
Cory W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hollywood, Ca.
Posts: 9,133
Quote:
Originally Posted by slavdogg View Post
hanging by the Tits, is the new national sport in Angola

any evidence of Gabe or Cory partaking in such a sport ?
Partaking, we invented it. : )
__________________
ICQ: 292310358
Offering writing and content services (mainstream).
Marketing for L3 Payments
Cory W is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 01:55 PM   #20
DarkJedi
No Refunds Issued.
 
DarkJedi's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: GFY
Posts: 28,300
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
Explanation welcome
Rogue employee.
DarkJedi is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 02:00 PM   #21
DarkJedi
No Refunds Issued.
 
DarkJedi's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: GFY
Posts: 28,300
www.teentube4free.com is a tube site owned by WEGCash

Domain Name: TEENTUBE4FREE.COM

Registrant [360582]:
WEGInc, Mgr
Web Entertainment Group Inc
6789 Quail Hill Pkwy
Suite 319
Irvine
CALIFORNIA
92603
US


Ruh Roh!
DarkJedi is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 02:00 PM   #22
DarkJedi
No Refunds Issued.
 
DarkJedi's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: GFY
Posts: 28,300
double post.
DarkJedi is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 02:05 PM   #23
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEG Cory View Post
It's an affiliate. We will take care of it.

Thanks,
Thanks, good move. I hope it's a big one

Now, please send all the earnings made from that fraudulent link to the guy on GFY that has open a law suit again illegal tube sites... Thanks

And if it's not too much too ask; Please send me the balls/ovaries of that affiliate, nicely wrapped in a golden box (it's for my dogs)...as to your proof of good intent as to your ominous "We will take care of it"

Do I hear Sopranooooooossss his ass... LOL
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 02:07 PM   #24
commonsense
So Fucking Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,790
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
Thanks, good move. I hope it's a big one

Now, please send all the earnings made from that fraudulent link to the guy on GFY that has open a law suit again illegal tube sites... Thanks

And if it's not too much too ask; Please send me the balls/ovaries of that affiliate, nicely wrapped in a golden box (it's for my dogs)...as to your proof of good intent as to your ominous "We will take care of it"

Do I hear Sopranooooooossss his ass... LOL
Read post #21 to see who that "affiliate" is
commonsense is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 02:18 PM   #25
RuthB
Let's Get Paxumized!
 
RuthB's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 7,247
Thanks for your patience Tom. We have investigated this issue and the webmaster in question is actually a fellow adult sponsor program, Universal Pass. Universal Pass has been enjoying the success of our Tube4Free tours and sharing that success with their many webmasters. Unfortunately one of their own webmasters took it upon themselves to use this method to promote the Tube4Free tours in this way. As a result their account has since been penalized by Universal Pass and the offending pages have been removed so this issue should now be resolved.

Thanks go to Universal Pass for being on the ball and resolving this issue with us so promptly!


Thanks for bringing this to my attention, though honestly I really would have appreciated an email or you hitting me up on ICQ first before you decided to post about this on GFY. Often these things can be sorted out without the need for drama, so please, if you (or anyone else) ever has an issue relating to ANY WEGCash site or promotion get in touch with me directly, it's NOT hard and I'm always available and respond.

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

Ruth Blair
WEGCash Affiliate Manager
__________________
Send & Receive Mass Global Payments - Mass P2P/Wire/EFT/SEPA - Adult Industry Friendly - Award Winning Payment Service - Fast, Reliable & Secure!
Paxum ...... Paxum Bank
Email: [email protected] ~ Telegram: PaxumRuth
RuthB is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 03:29 PM   #26
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Well Ruth

Thanks for solving the problem and showing how wegcash is a great program.

I took it to the board for 2 reasons, apart that GFY is here for just that purpose.

1-)It's fast, it's public, it teaches noobs how the business goes, and it give you the opportunity to show how much wegcash "is on the ball"

2-)I've an old beef with you.

I have dealt by email with you, personally, when over 100 moons ago, you banned me for promoting your "Fetish4Free site" on my OWN Asian BDSM site.

Reason given by email: my site was "TOO MUCH BDSM" {for you} ..just as I was starting to make some sales.

Note: I got banned for "too much BDSM" on my site.... not because I'm from a banned country, I did make sure when I signed up to tell them my location/nationality and got accepted as a webmasters.

Wegcash was one of my first sponsor, you broke my noob heart when you banned me..and didn't look back...I though you where a..... (bad, bad [Palin]thoughts)

Now since years my wegcash account reads
Your account has been terminated.
Cancel Message: Violation of TOS - Blocked Country


So e-mail with you?...not good...bad memories.

And now some wegcash "rogue affiliate" is scrapping my site...for cloaking..WTF

But now..if you want...
but I afraid my site is still "TOO MUCH BDSM" {for you}, you can reopen my account, I will try your tube stuff.

If you don't want to reopen my account, no problems,
that well let other BDSM webmasters know about your program limitations and if they should promote you...then get banned for being what they are; BDSM webmaster.

But we can all kiss and make up too...Where is the god damn :give flower to girl: icon?

Kind Regards
MajorTom
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 03:34 PM   #27
RuthB
Let's Get Paxumized!
 
RuthB's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 7,247
Tom, please hit me up with your ID, I cannot place the situation you're talking about. With your account name I can look up your history with us.

Thanks

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]
__________________
Send & Receive Mass Global Payments - Mass P2P/Wire/EFT/SEPA - Adult Industry Friendly - Award Winning Payment Service - Fast, Reliable & Secure!
Paxum ...... Paxum Bank
Email: [email protected] ~ Telegram: PaxumRuth
RuthB is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 04:04 PM   #28
slavdogg
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,570
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post

Reason given by email: my site was "TOO MUCH BDSM" {for you} ..just as I was starting to make some sales.
were you hanging by your tits ?
__________________
Adult Traffic for Sale
slavdogg is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2008, 04:09 PM   #29
DatingGold
$6 PER EMAIL JOiN
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: California
Posts: 13,185
welcome to the interweb
__________________
9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!



ADULT DATING - $100 PPS

LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS

WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM

ICQ: 27442303
DatingGold is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 12:10 AM   #30
SmokeyTheBear
►SouthOfHeaven
 
SmokeyTheBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer
Posts: 28,609
where to begin ,

#1 its obviously an affiliate you can see the userid in the end url
#2 if you dont want your site listed on search engines we all know how to use robots.txt by now
#3 the site/page in question is using a PUBLICLY available rss feed from YAHOO

as you can see here
http://search.yahooapis.com/ImageSea...=20&adult_ok=1

so just so you know its yahoo that scraped your site, and they offer your images and your scraped text to anyone who asks for it
__________________
hatisblack at yahoo.com
SmokeyTheBear is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 12:16 AM   #31
Turboface
Back in Black
 
Turboface's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,976
Ya! What Smokey said.

Turboface is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 06:09 AM   #32
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear View Post
where to begin ,

#1 its obviously an affiliate you can see the userid in the end url
#2 if you dont want your site listed on search engines we all know how to use robots.txt by now
#3 the site/page in question is using a PUBLICLY available rss feed from YAHOO

as you can see here
http://search.yahooapis.com/ImageSea...=20&adult_ok=1

so just so you know its yahoo that scraped your site, and they offer your images and your scraped text to anyone who asks for it
yep, where to begin
#1 yes, it's a "rogue affiliate", as wegcash said
#2 ??? I don't see the relevance of this remark. Why would I not want to be listed in SERP on my keywords? Baffles me.
#3 Thanks for the heads up on the rss feed, but Yahoo provide them for legit reasons and I'm fine with that.

Using the rss feed of my bdsm site to feed the "scrapper" tab of the cloaking software and using it in the <description> field of the cloaker template to then redirect the SERP to a teen tube site...is NOT a legitimate use of the my bdsm feeds. It's scrapping and cloaking.

Yahoo didn't scrape my site..some motherfucker did. IMHO

My mouse is hovering over the google spam report button...
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 06:35 AM   #33
Matt 26z
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤
Posts: 18,481
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear View Post
#3 the site/page in question is using a PUBLICLY available rss feed from YAHOO
Every legit webmaster knows that just because an RSS feed is available, you do not necessarily have free reign to use it in any way you wish.

How can you defend the actions of this affiliate? This is clearly text content theft.
Matt 26z is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 08:44 AM   #34
roly
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,844
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear View Post
where to begin ,

#1 its obviously an affiliate you can see the userid in the end url
#2 if you dont want your site listed on search engines we all know how to use robots.txt by now
#3 the site/page in question is using a PUBLICLY available rss feed from YAHOO

as you can see here
http://search.yahooapis.com/ImageSea...=20&adult_ok=1

so just so you know its yahoo that scraped your site, and they offer your images and your scraped text to anyone who asks for it
it's offered by yahoo for anyone who wants to read it, not republish it, that's copyright infingement.
roly is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 09:24 AM   #35
SmokeyTheBear
►SouthOfHeaven
 
SmokeyTheBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer
Posts: 28,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
yep, where to begin
#1 yes, it's a "rogue affiliate", as wegcash said
its just an affiliate sending traffic, nothing rogue about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post

#2 ??? I don't see the relevance of this remark. Why would I not want to be listed in SERP on my keywords? Baffles me.
the site you are complaining about is a search engine, i'm explaining how to not show up on search engines

Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post

#3 Thanks for the heads up on the rss feed, but Yahoo provide them for legit reasons and I'm fine with that.
yahoo didnt ask you first did they ? google didnt sk you first did they ? so why do you expect a much smaller search engine to contact you ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post

Using the rss feed of my bdsm site to feed the "scrapper" tab of the cloaking software and using it in the <description> field of the cloaker template to then redirect the SERP to a teen tube site...is NOT a legitimate use of the my bdsm feeds. It's scrapping and cloaking.
the site is a search engine just like google and yahoo, they are displaying your pics and your description JUST LIKE YAHOO or GOOGLE, theres no cloaking involved. When you visit the site from google you are redirected, when you visit the site from gfy you are not. Seems like they just banned google. Theres nothing illegal or immoral about banning google they do it to people all the time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
Yahoo didn't scrape my site..some motherfucker did. IMHO
and im trying to explain that they did not, its not a theory it's a fact. I saw the page it had pictures and descriptions pulled from the rss feed that yahoo provided, seems pretty simple to me , if you dont wanna be on the rss feed that thousands and thousands of webmasters use then "opt-out" from yahoo.

Anyone who uses the rss from yahoo for that term will have your text on their page.
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
My mouse is hovering over the google spam report button...
i heard google kills a kitten everytime you do that.
__________________
hatisblack at yahoo.com
SmokeyTheBear is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 09:30 AM   #36
SmokeyTheBear
►SouthOfHeaven
 
SmokeyTheBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer
Posts: 28,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by roly View Post
it's offered by yahoo for anyone who wants to read it, not republish it, that's copyright infingement.
wait so yahoo is displaying an excerpt from her site and a link to her image but when another search engine does its copyright infringement ?

can you please list what search engines are allowed to display an excerpt and a link to a site and what ones aren't ?
__________________
hatisblack at yahoo.com
SmokeyTheBear is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 09:34 AM   #37
The Duck
Adult Content Provider
 
The Duck's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Europe
Posts: 18,243
I just chuckled at the search term.
__________________
Skype Horusmaia
ICQ 41555245
Email [email protected]
The Duck is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 09:47 AM   #38
fuzebox
making it rain
 
fuzebox's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: seattle
Posts: 22,078
[QUOTE=majortom;14749624#1 yes, it's a "rogue affiliate", as wegcash said[/QUOTE]

Not sure why the implied sarcasm, like wegcash has the time to run their own bh seo campaigns, when they have thousands of affiliates doing the work for them. That is why they have an affiliate program

I doubt they'd even term this affiliate since they are not doing anything illegal, but if they did the affiliate would just promote something else.
fuzebox is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 09:48 AM   #39
Cory W
Deeply shallow
 
Cory W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hollywood, Ca.
Posts: 9,133
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuzebox View Post
Not sure why the implied sarcasm, like wegcash has the time to run their own bh seo campaigns, when they have thousands of affiliates doing the work for them. That is why they have an affiliate program

I doubt they'd even term this affiliate since they are not doing anything illegal, but if they did the affiliate would just promote something else.
Nor would it be worth our time.
__________________
ICQ: 292310358
Offering writing and content services (mainstream).
Marketing for L3 Payments
Cory W is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 10:44 AM   #40
Brujah
Beer Money Baron
 
Brujah's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: brujah / gmail
Posts: 22,157
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear View Post
where to begin ,

#1 its obviously an affiliate you can see the userid in the end url
#2 if you dont want your site listed on search engines we all know how to use robots.txt by now
#3 the site/page in question is using a PUBLICLY available rss feed from YAHOO

as you can see here
http://search.yahooapis.com/ImageSea...=20&adult_ok=1

so just so you know its yahoo that scraped your site, and they offer your images and your scraped text to anyone who asks for it
The site was cloaking which is against the TOS of the engines anyway. She could report it and have the entire domain removed instead. Should be pretty easy to do. You're not dumb and I know you understand the difference. If you're just playing devil's advocate, go ahead.
__________________
Brujah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 10:51 AM   #41
SmokeyTheBear
►SouthOfHeaven
 
SmokeyTheBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer
Posts: 28,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah View Post
The site was cloaking which is against the TOS of the engines anyway.
maybe google was doing something against the tos of the site and thats why you get redirected when you visit from google maybe they banned google before google banned them. google violates my tos all the time.
__________________
hatisblack at yahoo.com
SmokeyTheBear is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 10:55 AM   #42
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear View Post
its just an affiliate sending traffic, nothing rogue about it.
the site you are complaining about is a search engine, i'm explaining how to not show up on search engines
yahoo didnt ask you first did they ? google didnt sk you first did they ? so why do you expect a much smaller search engine to contact you ?

the site is a search engine just like google and yahoo, they are displaying your pics and your description JUST LIKE YAHOO or GOOGLE, theres no cloaking involved. When you visit the site from google you are redirected, when you visit the site from gfy you are not. Seems like they just banned google. Theres nothing illegal or immoral about banning google they do it to people all the time.

"they are displaying your pics and your description "

This where you get it wrong smokey; the site, now a 404, was NOT displaying any of my pictures or text. Only the SERP was displaying stolen text....maybe you should read the thread again...slowly..at your own pace.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Weg Cory
I doubt they'd even term this affiliate since they are not doing anything illegal, but if they did the affiliate would just promote something else.
Quote:
Nor would it be worth our time..
So you mean Weg Ruth lied? When she said
"Thanks for your patience Tom. We have investigated this issue and the webmaster in question is actually a fellow adult sponsor program, Universal Pass. Universal Pass has been enjoying the success of our Tube4Free tours and sharing that success with their many webmasters. Unfortunately one of their own webmasters took it upon themselves to use this method to promote the Tube4Free tours in this way. As a result their account has since been penalized by Universal Pass and the offending pages have been removed so this issue should now be resolved.

I start to like wegcash more and more...

It's ok, the offending page is now 404...I wonder why... if nothing was fishy there..or you didn't have time...but WegRuth had time to do something...but it's not worth it..your time..but now it's 404...and she said she penalized...but you said you didn't ..not worth it..bla ..bla..bla.spin..spin..blah..blah...normal wegcash stuff:
Q: Is cloaking is a state of mind in your company?

Legit webmasters clearly saw it for what it was; "Text content theft".
How it was exposed, addressed promptly and "solved by 404 death"and now spined for PR salvage exercise by some GFY "more post than brain experts"

Thanks WegRuth for having promptly and professionaly adressed the problem
But Please WegRuth, if you have the time..Please I beg you, DON"T reactivate my account with you. What ever your boss says time..no time..do..not do...blah..blah, thanks for 404ing the offending page. Nice work, but I'm pretty sure by now that you don't want affiliates as myself (that don't like content thieves)).... and on my side, I'm totally sure I don't want to promote your kind of programs in my member area and free sites.
Thank you WegCoryy for showing us your true...or maybe is that cloaked.. colors.

Kind Regards
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 10:58 AM   #43
Brujah
Beer Money Baron
 
Brujah's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: brujah / gmail
Posts: 22,157
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEG Cory View Post
Nor would it be worth our time.
I knew this would happen when you quoted the other reply. haha.

You were referring to WEG running a bh campaign right? The last part of the quote mentioned terminating a "rogue" affiliate, so it'll be easy to misunderstand that you meant it wouldn't be worth your time to terminate an affiliate. Unless you really think that, in which case, don't mind me.
__________________
Brujah is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 12:24 PM   #44
SmokeyTheBear
►SouthOfHeaven
 
SmokeyTheBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer
Posts: 28,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
"they are displaying your pics and your description "

This where you get it wrong smokey; the site, now a 404, was NOT displaying any of my pictures or text. Only the SERP was displaying stolen text....maybe you should read the thread again...slowly..at your own pace.
putting something in large text doesn't make it true. calm down and don't be so fucking rude UNDERSTAND ?

heres a screenshot of the site that you say doesnt have the text and image showing the link AND text to your site , the same text and link yahoo uses to point to your site.


the link points to this image
http://missxtreme.com/thumbs/tits-hanging%20008.jpg




Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
It's ok, the offending page is now 404...I wonder why... if nothing was fishy there..or you didn't have time...but WegRuth had time to do something...but it's not worth it..your time..but now it's 404...and she said she penalized...but you said you didn't ..not worth it..bla ..bla..bla.spin..spin..blah..blah...normal wegcash stuff:
grow up , wegcash prob asked the affiliate to drop the page out of respect for your wishes. so they removed the page, whats hard to understand ?


Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
[
Legit webmasters clearly saw it for what it was; "Text content theft".
you mean one guy said that
__________________
hatisblack at yahoo.com
SmokeyTheBear is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 12:59 PM   #45
majortom
Confirmed User
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA
Posts: 445
Hey smokey, so the cloaked page display my text..thanks for the screen shot.

It is still my bdsm scrapped rss text used to redirect to a teentube site via cloaking.
A big No No in the honest adult webmasters community and on the SE TOS.

Yes, as I said I'm glad WegRuth -an honest webmistress- promptly removed the offending page.

Was/is it a bh campaign run by wegcash, by a "rogue affiliate" at Universal pass, I will let that to the GFY speculations pundits.

Anyway someone got caught scrapping and cloaking and http://www.0040anal.com is now defunct. Simple, clear, easy.

All your devil's advocate ramblings will not change that.

Now, do us all a favor and go troll another thread..your posts count needs it.
__________________
Divers Do It Deeper !!!
majortom is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 01:34 PM   #46
Cory W
Deeply shallow
 
Cory W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hollywood, Ca.
Posts: 9,133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brujah View Post
I knew this would happen when you quoted the other reply. haha.

You were referring to WEG running a bh campaign right? The last part of the quote mentioned terminating a "rogue" affiliate, so it'll be easy to misunderstand that you meant it wouldn't be worth your time to terminate an affiliate. Unless you really think that, in which case, don't mind me.
Thanks. You are correct.
__________________
ICQ: 292310358
Offering writing and content services (mainstream).
Marketing for L3 Payments
Cory W is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 01:41 PM   #47
Matt 26z
So Fucking Banned
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤
Posts: 18,481
Obviously this has hit close to home for Smokey. I recall a thread from him claiming several million SE uniques per month. Put one and one together.
Matt 26z is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 01:55 PM   #48
SmokeyTheBear
►SouthOfHeaven
 
SmokeyTheBear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer
Posts: 28,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
Hey smokey, so the cloaked page display my text..thanks for the screen shot.
it was never cloaked , you go to the page you can see the image and text , the one you said never existed until i posted a picture.



Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
Yes, as I said I'm glad WegRuth -an honest webmistress- promptly removed the offending page.
you explained that and i already explained to you that wegruth did not "remove" the page, you have a hard on with wegcash so you insinuated they pulled it , get over it and grow up.


Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post

Now, do us all a favor and go troll another thread..your posts count needs it.
how about you do us all a favour and go fuck yourself

no wonder you are into the bdsm scene.

I would continue this convo but im afraid you might be getting turned on
__________________
hatisblack at yahoo.com
SmokeyTheBear is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 05:26 PM   #49
bashbug
Confirmed User
 
bashbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 929
weg cash seems to be involved in a lot of shady shit recently, advertising on illegal sites and what not
bashbug is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2008, 05:32 PM   #50
d-null
. . .
 
d-null's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 13,724
Quote:
Originally Posted by majortom View Post
....
My mouse is hovering over the google spam report button...
should have been the first thing you did, google is quick to zap spam like that out of the serps
d-null is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks
Thread Tools



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.