WegCash scrapping and cloacking ? Drama?
 

Ok, do a Google search for "Hanging by the tits"

In third position, here I'm, Missxtreme.com, with my original text "She is hanging by the Tits. Then the tortures starts.She is inserted with the foley catheters and forced to ripped them out though her Pee Hole, ..."

In 10th position there is "a site" with my original text as description + some more text scrapped from my site.

If you click on the "blue link" it redirects you to a teen tube site, this site has a webmaster link, with no ref code, to wegcash

If you copy paste open new tab the "html green link", you go to some other page...where my text is not showing...

My question is, the 10 th result in the SERP page is showing a site, displaying my original text as their description and redirecting to a teen tube site "allegedly" own by wegcash ?

Is wegcash scrapping my site (and maybe yours) and cloaking or is this just a in unfortunate coincidence?

Explanation welcome

let's have a snack while we wait...

http://www.advertisingsex.com/cam.jpg

Doesn't necessarily mean WegCash is the culprit but it defiantly deserves further investigation.
Who owns the "cloaked" domain?

...er I mean...

SEE SIG!!!

fbi files

did they just bought some Russian script and started "crawling" for text...

Bump for explanations from wegcash

Hi majortom.. no this is not something that we will EVER do to webmasters. WEGCash supports our webmasters and we want them to be successful through legitimate promotional methods only.

Please add me on ICQ (#233-854-608) or email me ([email protected]) to show me the full details of the info contained in this thread and I'll have the situation investigated. I could not duplicate your results through the search I did, so would definitely appreciate further info (if you have screencaps that would be handy)

Thanks

Hi Ruth

Glad to here from you. Will add you on ICQ

Here are the screens shots

http://www.missxtreme.com/banners/go...%20tits-01.jpg


http://www.missxtreme.com/banners/go...e%20tits-1.jpg

WEGcash is a great program. i doubt this is intensional.

Not for nothing, but in one of the screenshots I happend to look at it - the URL appears to be in a members directory. Not looking at your site in the past, is the ../members/.. area password protected?

If so? Where is your 403 redirects being sent to? Just a thought. :2 cents:

When I'm clicking on the blue link of the 10th result "Hanging Tits"
with my slow internet, I can see the redirect to
http://www.universalpass.com/redirects/wegcash/78.html

then I land on
http://www.teentube4free.com/_B64S_Y...warn Disp=yes

I might get geo targeted because I live in SEA

When I open the green link of the 10th result I get to
http://www.0040anal.com/rssfeed/hanging-tits.html

Very weird looking page..with a weird 2257

Thanks for looking into it.

Nope nothing to do with that ../members/.. is open...
try it you will see
the real member area is another place.

The problem is
1-)With the duplicate text. How come the description on the 10th site is -word for word- lifted from my site
2-)If you click on the blue link of the 10th site..I get to a teen tube site that looks like a wegcash site..hint: the $webmater$ link as no ref code...

interesting, but I highly doubt it weg

on a side note "ripped" should be present tense:2 cents:

I get these results too, from Florida. Clicking from Google takes me to
http://www.universalpass.com/redirects/wegcash/78.html

Clicking from this thread takes me to the real cloaked page.

Thanks, so it's not be in da bad country...

Damn cloaking softwares, you have to leave them on "not-cloaking" for a few days or weeks before they get a good hook on the SERP, before turning them on full claoking..that can leaves tracks...so I've read on the inner-webs


I'm sure wegcash is investigating too...and will keep us updated on that funny SERP

hanging by the Tits, is the new national sport in Angola

any evidence of Gabe or Cory partaking in such a sport ?

It's an affiliate. We will take care of it.

Thanks,

Partaking, we invented it. : )

Rogue employee.

www.teentube4free.com is a tube site owned by WEGCash

Domain Name: TEENTUBE4FREE.COM

Registrant [360582]:
WEGInc, Mgr
Web Entertainment Group Inc
6789 Quail Hill Pkwy
Suite 319
Irvine
CALIFORNIA
92603
US


Ruh Roh!

double post.

Thanks, good move. I hope it's a big one:thumbsup

Now, please send all the earnings made from that fraudulent link to the guy on GFY that has open a law suit again illegal tube sites... Thanks

And if it's not too much too ask; Please send me the balls/ovaries of that affiliate, nicely wrapped in a golden box (it's for my dogs)...as to your proof of good intent as to your ominous "We will take care of it"

Do I hear Sopranooooooossss his ass... LOL

Read post #21 to see who that "affiliate" is :upsidedow

Thanks for your patience Tom. We have investigated this issue and the webmaster in question is actually a fellow adult sponsor program, Universal Pass. Universal Pass has been enjoying the success of our Tube4Free tours and sharing that success with their many webmasters. Unfortunately one of their own webmasters took it upon themselves to use this method to promote the Tube4Free tours in this way. As a result their account has since been penalized by Universal Pass and the offending pages have been removed so this issue should now be resolved.

Thanks go to Universal Pass for being on the ball and resolving this issue with us so promptly!

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, though honestly I really would have appreciated an email or you hitting me up on ICQ first before you decided to post about this on GFY. Often these things can be sorted out without the need for drama, so please, if you (or anyone else) ever has an issue relating to ANY WEGCash site or promotion get in touch with me directly, it's NOT hard and I'm always available and respond.

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

Ruth Blair
WEGCash Affiliate Manager

Well Ruth

Thanks for solving the problem and showing how wegcash is a great program.

I took it to the board for 2 reasons, apart that GFY is here for just that purpose.

1-)It's fast, it's public, it teaches noobs how the business goes, and it give you the opportunity to show how much wegcash "is on the ball"

2-)I've an old beef with you.:Oh crap

I have dealt by email with you, personally, when over 100 moons ago, you banned me for promoting your "Fetish4Free site" on my OWN Asian BDSM site.

Reason given by email: my site was "TOO MUCH BDSM" {for you} ..just as I was starting to make some sales.

Note: I got banned for "too much BDSM" on my site.... not because I'm from a banned country, I did make sure when I signed up to tell them my location/nationality and got accepted as a webmasters.

Wegcash was one of my first sponsor, you broke my noob heart when you banned me..and didn't look back...I though you where a..... (bad, bad [Palin]thoughts)

Now since years my wegcash account reads
Your account has been terminated.
Cancel Message: Violation of TOS - Blocked Country


So e-mail with you?...not good...bad memories.

And now some wegcash "rogue affiliate" is scrapping my site...for cloaking..WTF

But now..if you want...
but I afraid my site is still "TOO MUCH BDSM" {for you}, you can reopen my account, I will try your tube stuff.

If you don't want to reopen my account, no problems,
that well let other BDSM webmasters know about your program limitations and if they should promote you...then get banned for being what they are; BDSM webmaster.

But we can all kiss and make up too...Where is the god damn :give flower to girl: icon?

Kind Regards
MajorTom

Tom, please hit me up with your ID, I cannot place the situation you're talking about. With your account name I can look up your history with us.

Thanks

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

were you hanging by your tits ?

welcome to the interweb

where to begin ,

#1 its obviously an affiliate you can see the userid in the end url
#2 if you dont want your site listed on search engines we all know how to use robots.txt by now
#3 the site/page in question is using a PUBLICLY available rss feed from YAHOO

as you can see here
http://search.yahooapis.com/ImageSea...=20&adult_ok=1

so just so you know its yahoo that scraped your site, and they offer your images and your scraped text to anyone who asks for it :)

Ya! What Smokey said.

:drinkup

yep, where to begin
#1 yes, it's a "rogue affiliate", as wegcash said
#2 ??? I don't see the relevance of this remark. Why would I not want to be listed in SERP on my keywords? Baffles me.
#3 Thanks for the heads up on the rss feed, but Yahoo provide them for legit reasons and I'm fine with that.

Using the rss feed of my bdsm site to feed the "scrapper" tab of the cloaking software and using it in the <description> field of the cloaker template to then redirect the SERP to a teen tube site...is NOT a legitimate use of the my bdsm feeds. It's scrapping and cloaking.

Yahoo didn't scrape my site..some motherfucker did. IMHO

My mouse is hovering over the google spam report button...

Every legit webmaster knows that just because an RSS feed is available, you do not necessarily have free reign to use it in any way you wish.

How can you defend the actions of this affiliate? This is clearly text content theft.

it's offered by yahoo for anyone who wants to read it, not republish it, that's copyright infingement.

its just an affiliate sending traffic, nothing rogue about it.

the site you are complaining about is a search engine, i'm explaining how to not show up on search engines

yahoo didnt ask you first did they ? google didnt sk you first did they ? so why do you expect a much smaller search engine to contact you ?

the site is a search engine just like google and yahoo, they are displaying your pics and your description JUST LIKE YAHOO or GOOGLE, theres no cloaking involved. When you visit the site from google you are redirected, when you visit the site from gfy you are not. Seems like they just banned google. Theres nothing illegal or immoral about banning google they do it to people all the time.

and im trying to explain that they did not, its not a theory it's a fact. I saw the page it had pictures and descriptions pulled from the rss feed that yahoo provided, seems pretty simple to me , if you dont wanna be on the rss feed that thousands and thousands of webmasters use then "opt-out" from yahoo.

Anyone who uses the rss from yahoo for that term will have your text on their page.
i heard google kills a kitten everytime you do that.

wait so yahoo is displaying an excerpt from her site and a link to her image but when another search engine does its copyright infringement ?

can you please list what search engines are allowed to display an excerpt and a link to a site and what ones aren't ? :winkwink:

I just chuckled at the search term.

[QUOTE=majortom;14749624#1 yes, it's a "rogue affiliate", as wegcash said[/QUOTE]

Not sure why the implied sarcasm, like wegcash has the time to run their own bh seo campaigns, when they have thousands of affiliates doing the work for them. That is why they have an affiliate program :error

I doubt they'd even term this affiliate since they are not doing anything illegal, but if they did the affiliate would just promote something else.

Nor would it be worth our time.

The site was cloaking which is against the TOS of the engines anyway. She could report it and have the entire domain removed instead. Should be pretty easy to do. You're not dumb and I know you understand the difference. If you're just playing devil's advocate, go ahead. :winkwink:

maybe google was doing something against the tos of the site and thats why you get redirected when you visit from google :winkwink: maybe they banned google before google banned them. :winkwink: google violates my tos all the time.

"they are displaying your pics and your description "

This where you get it wrong smokey; the site, now a 404, was NOT displaying any of my pictures or text. Only the SERP was displaying stolen text....maybe you should read the thread again...slowly..at your own pace.


So you mean Weg Ruth lied? When she said
"Thanks for your patience Tom. We have investigated this issue and the webmaster in question is actually a fellow adult sponsor program, Universal Pass. Universal Pass has been enjoying the success of our Tube4Free tours and sharing that success with their many webmasters. Unfortunately one of their own webmasters took it upon themselves to use this method to promote the Tube4Free tours in this way. As a result their account has since been penalized by Universal Pass and the offending pages have been removed so this issue should now be resolved.

I start to like wegcash more and more...

It's ok, the offending page is now 404...I wonder why... if nothing was fishy there..or you didn't have time...but WegRuth had time to do something...but it's not worth it..your time..but now it's 404...and she said she penalized...but you said you didn't ..not worth it..bla ..bla..bla.spin..spin..blah..blah...normal wegcash stuff:
Q: Is cloaking is a state of mind in your company?

Legit webmasters clearly saw it for what it was; "Text content theft".
How it was exposed, addressed promptly and "solved by 404 death"and now spined for PR salvage exercise by some GFY "more post than brain experts"

Thanks WegRuth for having promptly and professionaly adressed the problem
But Please WegRuth, if you have the time..Please I beg you, DON"T reactivate my account with you. What ever your boss says time..no time..do..not do...blah..blah, thanks for 404ing the offending page. Nice work, but I'm pretty sure by now that you don't want affiliates as myself (that don't like content thieves)).... and on my side, I'm totally sure I don't want to promote your kind of programs in my member area and free sites.
Thank you WegCoryy for showing us your true...or maybe is that cloaked.. colors.

Kind Regards

I knew this would happen when you quoted the other reply. haha.

You were referring to WEG running a bh campaign right? The last part of the quote mentioned terminating a "rogue" affiliate, so it'll be easy to misunderstand that you meant it wouldn't be worth your time to terminate an affiliate. Unless you really think that, in which case, don't mind me.

putting something in large text doesn't make it true. calm down and don't be so fucking rude UNDERSTAND ?

heres a screenshot of the site that you say doesnt have the text and image showing the link AND text to your site , the same text and link yahoo uses to point to your site.
http://66.112.210.78/miss.jpg

the link points to this image
http://missxtreme.com/thumbs/tits-hanging%20008.jpg




grow up , wegcash prob asked the affiliate to drop the page out of respect for your wishes. so they removed the page, whats hard to understand ?


you mean one guy said that

Hey smokey, so the cloaked page display my text..thanks for the screen shot.:thumbsup

It is still my bdsm scrapped rss text used to redirect to a teentube site via cloaking.
A big No No in the honest adult webmasters community and on the SE TOS.

Yes, as I said I'm glad WegRuth -an honest webmistress- promptly removed the offending page.

Was/is it a bh campaign run by wegcash, by a "rogue affiliate" at Universal pass, I will let that to the GFY speculations pundits.

Anyway someone got caught scrapping and cloaking and http://www.0040anal.com is now defunct. Simple, clear, easy.

All your devil's advocate ramblings will not change that.

Now, do us all a favor and go troll another thread..your posts count needs it.

Thanks. You are correct.

Obviously this has hit close to home for Smokey. I recall a thread from him claiming several million SE uniques per month. Put one and one together.

it was never cloaked , you go to the page you can see the image and text , the one you said never existed until i posted a picture.



you explained that and i already explained to you that wegruth did not "remove" the page, you have a hard on with wegcash so you insinuated they pulled it , get over it and grow up.


how about you do us all a favour and go fuck yourself :)

no wonder you are into the bdsm scene.

I would continue this convo but im afraid you might be getting turned on :winkwink::1orglaugh

weg cash seems to be involved in a lot of shady shit recently, advertising on illegal sites and what not

should have been the first thing you did, google is quick to zap spam like that out of the serps :2 cents: