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GFED · 10-29-2002, 09:30 PM

If someone gave you $10K to start a paysite what would you spend it on? How much money would you allocate to affiliates, design, hosting, content, etc.?

quiet · 10-29-2002, 09:33 PM

i wouldn't start one with only 10K.

Brown Bear · 10-29-2002, 09:33 PM

100% on content, design it yourself and promote it yourself.

mrthumbs · 10-29-2002, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
i wouldn't start one with only 10K.

indeed

TDF · 10-29-2002, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
100% on content, design it yourself and promote it yourself.

indeed. Original content and whore the hell out of it!! Surfers really do remember used content

m0rph3us · 10-29-2002, 09:42 PM

50k startup minimum and about 50k in the bank to back it up.
Content is #1.

Firehorse · 10-29-2002, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by m0rph3us
50k startup minimum and about 50k in the bank to back it up.
Content is #1.

I agree.

frankfortuna · 10-29-2002, 09:46 PM

Sadly, a large percentage of sites have become nothing more than a tour wrapped around plug-in content.

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 09:49 PM

i think you can do it,

design 1000 USD

700 USD per exclusive video x 10 videos

start with 4 and have 6 videos worth of updates

spend 3000 on 10 hun ads...

and you're in business..... already better then most cookie cutter paysites cause of the exclusive content

GFED · 10-29-2002, 09:49 PM

Oki, so if the content sells, the site will be successful. So fancy design isn't important. Let's say I do my own design and spend everything on content and hosting. Would you buy exclusive content from a provider or shoot your own content? What are some pros/cons and costs of each?

Thanks.

GFED · 10-29-2002, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
i think you can do it,

design 1000 USD

700 USD per exclusive video x 10 videos

start with 4 and have 6 videos worth of updates

spend 3000 on 10 hun ads...

and you're in business..... already better then most cookie cutter paysites cause of the exclusive content

heheh, I like your thinking.

so only $700 for exclusive videos? that would be cheaper than shooting my own content. about how long are each video?

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by GFED

heheh, I like your thinking.

so only $700 for exclusive videos? that would be cheaper than shooting my own content. about how long are each video?

40 minutes... and you dont need to spend 1000 on a design, you could do something like exploitedteens 2nd tour and just list the girls violated and spend that 1000 on either other movies/bandwidth or getting webmasters if you wanna go that route

the paysite iam working on will be out in a few months, Very very SICK

Brown Bear · 10-29-2002, 09:53 PM

$700 for exclusive video? who sells that?

m0rph3us · 10-29-2002, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
start with 4

Don't forget to charge 39.95. You'll make your money back MUCH faster.

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
$700 for exclusive video? who sells that?

well i know you can get it alot cheaper, but i made it more expensive in order for him to budget it

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by m0rph3us

Don't forget to charge 39.95. You'll make your money back MUCH faster.

what do i look like? slutbus, bitchmobile ???

MiLo · 10-29-2002, 10:00 PM

Damn, you can also shoot your content in
another country were the girls are so damn
hot and willing to do the *nasty* for 1/4 of
the money...

GFED · 10-29-2002, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by MiLo TurboNegro
Damn, you can also shoot your content in
another country were the girls are so damn
hot and willing to do the *nasty* for 1/4 of
the money...

http://escorts-argentina.com/

bhutocracy · 10-29-2002, 10:02 PM

i'd worry about having a traffic bank of avs's and tgp of your own before you worried about spending 10k.. and yeah i tihnk you can do a paysite with 10k.. you just have to have a cost-efficient idea, be able to do a lot of it yourself and make exclusive content.. ie forget a "pornstar" paysite.. but more important than that is to have your own traffic. if this is your first paysite, you want to be able to pipe signups to the site yourself as soon as you put it up. Don't rely on affiliates.. not in the beginning.

Sly_RJ · 10-29-2002, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

the paysite iam working on will be out in a few months, Very very SICK

I agree.

Marcus · 10-29-2002, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
promote it yourself.

Are there sites out there that do well without an affiliate program?

I dont know the math if it's better to charge $14.95 for a membership and just promote it yourself or double the price and charge $29.9 and have other webmaster promote the site.

Sly_RJ · 10-29-2002, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus

Are there sites out there that do well without an affiliate program?

I dont know the math if it's better to charge $14.95 for a membership and just promote it yourself or double the price and charge $29.9 and have other webmaster promote the site.

Yes.

Why not try both?

MiLo · 10-29-2002, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus

Are there sites out there that do well without an affiliate program?

ask quiet.

MiLo · 10-29-2002, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by GFED

http://escorts-argentina.com/

heheheheh! nice set-up of hookers.

But anyway, i know fresher sources than that.

Ya know, 18-20 y/o girls :=)

quiet · 10-29-2002, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
but more important than that is to have your own traffic.

this is why starting a paysite requires more than 10K.

also, with so little content at the beginning, your retention will be terrible.

hey, i started with 0. but i ran an avs site before i moved to paysite. when i look at how much it costs to run my shit now, it's crazy.

all the real money is made in recurring. the initial sales are a joke (unless you're scamming)

m0rph3us · 10-29-2002, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

this is why starting a paysite requires more than 10K.

also, with so little content at the beginning, your retention will be terrible.

hey, i started with 0. but i ran an avs site before i moved to paysite. when i look at how much it costs to run my shit now, it's crazy.

all the real money is made in recurring. the initial sales are a joke (unless you're scamming)

EscortBiz · 10-29-2002, 10:14 PM

you'll do good

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 10:15 PM

personally I think a paysite with 10 themed exclusive videos for under 10k, will do so much better then a paysite with 50k worth of plugins, just my

Brown Bear · 10-29-2002, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
personally I think a paysite with 10 themed exclusive videos for under 10k, will do so much better then a paysite with 50k worth of plugins, just my

I think feeds and plugins are useless. I hate feeds.

quiet · 10-29-2002, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
personally I think a paysite with 10 themed exclusive videos for under 10k, will do so much better then a paysite with 50k worth of plugins, just my :2 cents:

depending how you sell it, i agree that initial signups will be higher with exclusive (even a small amount) for sure.

but that leaves out the traffic equation - which i know you already have somewhat covered ;)

traffic is obviously key, regardless of the other variables.

GFED · 10-29-2002, 10:26 PM

Oki, so content and traffic is of upmost importance. Well, I've been working up my traffic on various sites so I have about 50K/day total free site/TGP traffic on a total of 16 sites that I can use to promote the site. It's not much, but I could make more 10K-20K feeders now that I have the hang of them.

So, I can offer this to the guy putting up the money. I consider it part of the capital I am investing along with my time. And we're splitting 50/50. Any costs left would be to either purchase exclusive content or hire my own models and hosting.

I just gotta find a way to make this look good on paper and need some numbers for the guy to take me serious. The main question he has is when will he start seeing his money back? I figure we put 50% back into the site + expenses off the top and split the rest. But how long to make his $10K back?

bhutocracy · 10-29-2002, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

this is why starting a paysite requires more than 10K.

also, with so little content at the beginning, your retention will be terrible.

hey, i started with 0. but i ran an avs site before i moved to paysite. when i look at how much it costs to run my shit now, it's crazy.

all the real money is made in recurring. the initial sales are a joke (unless you're scamming)

so true.

so many people think that once they've spent all their cash on a start-up paysite it's a case of "if you build it they will come" as long as you can get some good search engine traffic and a bit of tgp1 posting.. or spend an ass load of cash and then find themselvse on a manic rush for affiliates.
It's going about it back to front for the small player. I've learnt that lesson myself. start that ring of good avs sites, do a few small tgp's, not with the intention of being big, but just having a few small traffic pumps.. then when you make your fledgling paysite, not only are you still making sign-up cash off your avs sites, and a bit of money from your tgp's to help finance the updates of that initial bit of content after you've blown your 10k wad on content, but you've got a ready source of traffic and can let the system feed itself while you grow it. you're not worried about spending 10k and then going "where the fuck are my 1000 signups going to come from to cover it?" it's a nice segue from your upsells and sponsors to your own site.. it just lacks the glamour of instantly having a paysite and is a lot more work.. but once you've done this then yeah 10k is enough, which is the premise i was operating on..

Theo · 10-29-2002, 10:32 PM

as already posted,if you are lacking of serious traffic sources forget the idea.

<IMX> · 10-29-2002, 10:33 PM

I'd try http://www.adultverifier.com AV's Ultra program first with a bit of exclusive content. That way you can actually retain some people. Then jump to a pay site.

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
as already posted,if you are lacking of serious traffic sources forget the idea.

true! this site has no traffic but i believe it has great potential

http://www.boygirlbang.com/ib/page1.html

PeekHoles · 10-29-2002, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
as already posted,if you are lacking of serious traffic sources forget the idea.

Very true, oh and make alot of friends it helps.

frankfortuna · 10-29-2002, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

true! this site has no traffic but i believe it has great potential

http://www.boygirlbang.com/ib/page1.html

Is that your site? I just watched the "Bob" trailer and I'm still on the floor laughing.

m0rph3us · 10-29-2002, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew

true! this site has no traffic but i believe it has great potential

http://www.boygirlbang.com/ib/page1.html

fat chicks fucking fat guys bangbus styles

Seriously though, if you are thinking of a paysite, you need to have a BIG bank account. Otherwise, when one of the variables drops you will be fucked and have to close shop. There's lots of factors to account but know that you will only make money in the log run. Don't quit first month if you don't see a profit

Keep up and keep doing more promo. That's why you need the big bank account.

Pipecrew · 10-29-2002, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by frankfortuna

Is that your site? I just watched the "Bob" trailer and I'm still on the floor laughing.

I wish

I know the guy though, he has sooo many awesome videos

frankfortuna · 10-29-2002, 10:47 PM

The content looks top-notch. I only wish I could find a provider that offered this sort of thing reasonably.

Brad Mitchell · 10-29-2002, 11:01 PM

Fucking hillarious thread. Shows that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one... but most aren't that profound.

Brad

Indeed · 10-29-2002, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Fucking hillarious thread. Shows that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one... but most aren't that profound.

Brad

What is your opinion Brad?

OnTime · 10-29-2002, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Fucking hillarious thread. Shows that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one... but most aren't that profound.

Brad

Should we assume that you think yours is one of the few that is profound?

daddynastee · 10-29-2002, 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
i'd worry about having a traffic bank of avs's and tgp of your own before you worried about spending 10k.. and yeah i tihnk you can do a paysite with 10k.. you just have to have a cost-efficient idea, be able to do a lot of it yourself and make exclusive content.. ie forget a "pornstar" paysite.. but more important than that is to have your own traffic. if this is your first paysite, you want to be able to pipe signups to the site yourself as soon as you put it up. Don't rely on affiliates.. not in the beginning.

This is the best advice in the whole thread. Especially the part about 'affiliates.'

daddynastee · 10-29-2002, 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
i'd worry about having a traffic bank of avs's and tgp of your own before you worried about spending 10k.. and yeah i tihnk you can do a paysite with 10k.. you just have to have a cost-efficient idea, be able to do a lot of it yourself and make exclusive content.. ie forget a "pornstar" paysite.. but more important than that is to have your own traffic. if this is your first paysite, you want to be able to pipe signups to the site yourself as soon as you put it up. Don't rely on affiliates.. not in the beginning.

This is the best advice in the whole thread. Especially the part about 'affiliates.'

GFED · 10-29-2002, 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Fucking hillarious thread. Shows that opinions are like assholes, everyone has one... but most aren't that profound.

Brad

What's your opinion Brad?

jojojo · 10-30-2002, 12:07 AM

quiet:

How many videos did you have when you switched to a paysite?

Does your site have or ever had anything besides those videos - like plugins etc?

Marcus · 10-30-2002, 07:27 AM

ok then forget feeds, how much origional movie content should you have before you open up a paysite and expect surfers to stay around?

jqw736145 · 10-30-2002, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by MiLo TurboNegro
Damn, you can also shoot your content in
another country were the girls are so damn
hot and willing to do the *nasty* for 1/4 of
the money...

you mean america?

Hustlin Entertainment · 10-30-2002, 07:41 AM

why not start a paysite for free

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	i'd worry about having a traffic bank of avs's and tgp of your own before you worried about spending 10k.. and yeah i tihnk you can do a paysite with 10k.. you just have to have a cost-efficient idea, be able to do a lot of it yourself and make exclusive content.. ie forget a "pornstar" paysite.. but more important than that is to have your own traffic. if this is your first paysite, you want to be able to pipe signups to the site yourself as soon as you put it up. Don't rely on affiliates.. not in the beginning.

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GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	Oki, so content and traffic is of upmost importance. Well, I've been working up my traffic on various sites so I have about 50K/day total free site/TGP traffic on a total of 16 sites that I can use to promote the site. It's not much, but I could make more 10K-20K feeders now that I have the hang of them. So, I can offer this to the guy putting up the money. I consider it part of the capital I am investing along with my time. And we're splitting 50/50. Any costs left would be to either purchase exclusive content or hire my own models and hosting. I just gotta find a way to make this look good on paper and need some numbers for the guy to take me serious. The main question he has is when will he start seeing his money back? I figure we put 50% back into the site + expenses off the top and split the rest. But how long to make his $10K back? __________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	as already posted,if you are lacking of serious traffic sources forget the idea.

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