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Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:11 PM

open google in the us.. search "tampa lawyers" go to the page "more sponsored links" and you should might see that ad. if not, you can find them locally by searching other crap... search "mesothelioma attorney" or whatever, and you will see similar ads... all doing the same thing.

.... so..

you have an ad: display url "sortprice.com" (normal, live site - seems like site using store feeds, mixed with other crap)

Ad destination URL is www.keyconversions.net - which shouldn't happen or should make the ad inactive... that domain redirects the user

User ends up at http://www.projectorpro.org (parked domain)

i've found dozens of domains doing this for high paying keywords today. many are targeting the highest paying keywords... which makes it seem a bit more odd that Google hasn't stopped this or that Google is allowing it to happen.

How are they doing that? Any ideas?

Mike Semen · 09-09-2008, 12:14 PM

Looks very wierd. G will probably catch it soon...

96ukssob · 09-09-2008, 12:15 PM

truthfully they probably doing some cloaking or URL redirect by IP. Ive seen it done a dozen times.

there are a few companies that have special permission to have a different display URL and destination URL, but the forwarding probably means they are cheating somehow. most of these ads will only run for a few hours or days, but some can go on for some time before they are caught.

email adwords support and rat them out

the display url has to equal the destination url, but you can use tracking urls to filter through first, such as in this case:
sortprice.com -> keyconversions.net takes in tracking info, then forwards to -> sortprice.com

I have this set up for a number of clients, but the forwarding to projectorpro.org is a hack

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-09-2008, 12:17 PM

A stupid question posted by a retarded person

...next

lol

anyone ... not on my ignore want the scoop on this ICQ me

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

truthfully they probably doing some cloaking or URL redirect by IP. Ive seen it done a dozen times.

there are a few companies that have special permission to have a different display URL and destination URL, but the forwarding probably means they are cheating somehow. most of these ads will only run for a few hours or days, but some can go on for some time before they are caught.

email adwords support and rat them out

the display url has to equal the destination url, but you can use tracking urls to filter through first, such as in this case:
sortprice.com -> keyconversions.net takes in tracking info, then forwards to -> sortprice.com

I have this set up for a number of clients, but the forwarding to projectorpro.org is a hack

right... i was thinking that.. .that somehow they were getting permission from Google to use those URL's for tracking and then later fucking google and going out with a bang

GonZo · 09-09-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

A stupid question posted by a retarded person

...next

lol

anyone ... not on my ignore want the scoop on this ICQ me

Updating my adwords wizzards list again . . .

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

A stupid question posted by a retarded person

...next

lol

anyone ... not on my ignore want the scoop on this ICQ me

you've never said one intelligent thing on this board ... ever. and anyone who reads your posts will confirm that simple fact.

you're a broke idiot named Andre that lives in an apartment building in brandon... pretending to be a "player"

no ones impressed.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-09-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

you've never said one intelligent thing on this board ... ever. and anyone who reads your posts will confirm that simple fact.

you're a broke idiot named Andre that lives in an apartment building in brandon... pretending to be a "player"

no ones impressed.

and your name is Mark Deshong Of Bellevue wa so fuckin what????

You are a fuckin loser and even worse you havesome hell coming your way

Did you really think it would be that simple??

WiredGuy · 09-09-2008, 12:30 PM

Whats your question?
WG

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

and your name is Mark Deshong Of Bellevue wa so fuckin what????

You are a fuckin loser and even worse you havesome hell coming your way

Did you really think it would be that simple??

actually, i'm in florida... maybe we should just meet? would that be better for you?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-09-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

actually, i'm in florida... maybe we should just meet? would that be better for you?

sure you are

when did you move

And I would meet you anytime Mark

You are an idiot...

did you even think first?? no

96ukssob · 09-09-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

right... i was thinking that.. .that somehow they were getting permission from Google to use those URL's for tracking and then later fucking google and going out with a bang

you dont need special permission to use tracking urls between the display and destination URL. i just set up a campaign this morning doing that and is pretty common because most people dont have the ability to track certain data right off their site

at the same time, i have 2 accounts where i have a different display and destination url and thats because im using a 3rd party host so i can do call and email tracking

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

sure you are

when did you move

And I would meet you anytime Mark

You are an idiot...

did you even think first?? no

i'll leave Tampa around 6 and head your way. then i'll enjoy stomping your arrogant fucking head into the ground before I go get some dinner.

BradM · 09-09-2008, 12:40 PM

There's no rule against using tracking URLs. The tracking url though may redirect based on conditions. And if the adwords approver doesn't catch it, the ad makes it through.

I can buy an ad, display as jizzbomb.com, link it using my tracker cumox.biz and land it on jizzbomb.

Now if it's LANDING on a different page then they are illegally redirecting and you can report that ad.

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

you dont need special permission to use tracking urls between the display and destination URL. i just set up a campaign this morning doing that and is pretty common because most people don't have the ability to track certain data right off their site

at the same time, i have 2 accounts where i have a different display and destination url and thats because im using a 3rd party host so i can do call and email tracking

i've never seen an ad in recent years go live with two domains. i had no idea you could do that just by setting up a campaign.

it seems like everyone would be doing this stuff if it wasn't controlled or allowed in some manner thats controlled.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-09-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i'll leave Tampa around 6 and head your way. then i'll enjoy stomping your arrogant fucking head into the ground before I go get some dinner.

uh huh

you should have kept your fuckin mouth closed you hands in your pocket and your fingers off the keyboard

So what did you gain??

nothing

you are a bafoon

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

uh huh

you should have kept your fuckin mouth closed you hands in your pocket and your fingers off the keyboard

So what did you gain??

nothing

you are a bafoon

the invitation stands. i'm just minutes away from you. i don't mind the drive. otherwise fuck you and your threats. man up or shut up.

BradM · 09-09-2008, 12:46 PM

ya you can do all sorts of stuff... if goog doesn't catch you. also I can setup like 50 different ads in each campaign with different landing/display urls. there's really no policing of it.

BradM · 09-09-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the invitation stands. i'm just minutes away from you. i don't mind the drive. otherwise fuck you and your threats. man up or shut up.

Are you black?
DO NOT meet with him if you are ANY OTHER RACE. Pussyserver will sue you for a racial hate crime if you touch him.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-09-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

the invitation stands. i'm just minutes away from you. i don't mind the drive. otherwise fuck you and your threats. man up or shut up.

I am not a fighter im a thinker ... im sure your research has shown you that

but I guess it didnt show you that I could be a major problem for you

I mean a major problem... lost contracts ( mainstream ) and all

Do you really want to continue this?

just say the word and i can take it to the next level ( outside off of GFY)

or shut the fuck up and I might walk away

try ya luck fella lol

96ukssob · 09-09-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

i've never seen an ad in recent years go live with two domains. i had no idea you could do that just by setting up a campaign.

it seems like everyone would be doing this stuff if it wasn't controlled or allowed in some manner thats controlled.

anyone can set up tracking URLs, a lot of people do.

however for different display and destination urls (NOT using tracking) you need special permission.

for example i have a site like this...

clients site is XYZToys.com and want to track conversions and how many people call.
I duplicated his site, changing his phone numbers to tracking numbers and I host his site like this xyztoys.mysite.com
so essentially xyztoys.myhost.com is the same as xyztoys.com but with different phone numbers for tracking.

look around, especially at service based sites you will see it (i.e. reach local)

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Are you black?
DO NOT meet with him if you are ANY OTHER RACE. Pussyserver will sue you for a racial hate crime if you touch him.

i'm not black... not delusional and not morbidly obese with a big mouth.

maybe your right...

obese = discrimination
black = hate crime
delusional = mentally ill

i'm fucked on all fronts if i go in front of the judge

BradM · 09-09-2008, 01:01 PM

Your only saving grace might be if you are a fit blonde hair blue eyed guy.

I get away with almost everything and make friends with cops in the process.

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Your only saving grace might be if you are a fit blonde hair blue eyed guy.

I get away with almost everything and make friends with cops in the process.

ha!

i laughed out loud.

was that wrong??

BradM · 09-09-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

ha!

i laughed out loud.

was that wrong??

Not really, I'm kind of a funny guy.

Pleasurepays · 09-09-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

anyone can set up tracking URLs, a lot of people do.

however for different display and destination urls (NOT using tracking) you need special permission.

for example i have a site like this...

clients site is XYZToys.com and want to track conversions and how many people call.
I duplicated his site, changing his phone numbers to tracking numbers and I host his site like this xyztoys.mysite.com
so essentially xyztoys.myhost.com is the same as xyztoys.com but with different phone numbers for tracking.

look around, especially at service based sites you will see it (i.e. reach local)

thanks! anytime i ever fucked up the URL or typed anything where the destination domain and display domain didn't match (since they made this rule) has gotten the ad flagged/disabled.

Nismo · 09-09-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

I am not a fighter im a thinker

Then you are fucked.

96ukssob · 09-09-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

thanks! anytime i ever fucked up the URL or typed anything where the destination domain and display domain didn't match (since they made this rule) has gotten the ad flagged/disabled.

if you need any help, let me know. i do a lot of biz with them and spend about 8-10 hours a day in front of adwords

seeandsee · 09-09-2008, 03:58 PM

money makes world go around

sacX · 09-09-2008, 04:02 PM

Probably these are just old ads. When they implemented the rule the final destination url *must* match the display url it only seemed to apply to newly created ads. The only started policing this about 6 months ago.

marketsmart · 09-09-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Your only saving grace might be if you are a fit blonde hair blue eyed guy.

I get away with almost everything and make friends with cops in the process.

florida doesnt have any issues with white on black crime. in fact, i think they actually encourage it...

MaDalton · 09-09-2008, 04:18 PM

i am new to this and maybe i got that wrong, but when i use something like zanox and link directly to the destination instead of a landing page (for those who allow that) wouldn't then be the display url www.example.com and the destination url something like www.zanox.com/xxx/xxx/xxx ?

which would be fine - as far as i understood.

09-09-2008, 12:11 PM	#1
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	Top Google Adwords Gurus... Any Idea How This Is Done? open google in the us.. search "tampa lawyers" go to the page "more sponsored links" and you should might see that ad. if not, you can find them locally by searching other crap... search "mesothelioma attorney" or whatever, and you will see similar ads... all doing the same thing. .... so.. you have an ad: display url "sortprice.com" (normal, live site - seems like site using store feeds, mixed with other crap) Ad destination URL is www.keyconversions.net - which shouldn't happen or should make the ad inactive... that domain redirects the user User ends up at http://www.projectorpro.org (parked domain) i've found dozens of domains doing this for high paying keywords today. many are targeting the highest paying keywords... which makes it seem a bit more odd that Google hasn't stopped this or that Google is allowing it to happen. How are they doing that? Any ideas?

09-09-2008, 12:14 PM	#2
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09-09-2008, 12:15 PM	#3
96ukssob So Fucking Banananananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: If I was in your ass you'd know it Posts: 12,991	truthfully they probably doing some cloaking or URL redirect by IP. Ive seen it done a dozen times. there are a few companies that have special permission to have a different display URL and destination URL, but the forwarding probably means they are cheating somehow. most of these ads will only run for a few hours or days, but some can go on for some time before they are caught. email adwords support and rat them out the display url has to equal the destination url, but you can use tracking urls to filter through first, such as in this case: sortprice.com -> keyconversions.net takes in tracking info, then forwards to -> sortprice.com I have this set up for a number of clients, but the forwarding to projectorpro.org is a hack __________________ Email: Clicky on Me Last edited by 96ukssob; 09-09-2008 at 12:17 PM..

09-09-2008, 12:30 PM	#9
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09-09-2008, 12:17 PM	#4
pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	A stupid question posted by a retarded person ...next lol anyone ... not on my ignore want the scoop on this ICQ me

09-09-2008, 12:40 PM	#14
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	There's no rule against using tracking URLs. The tracking url though may redirect based on conditions. And if the adwords approver doesn't catch it, the ad makes it through. I can buy an ad, display as jizzbomb.com, link it using my tracker cumox.biz and land it on jizzbomb. Now if it's LANDING on a different page then they are illegally redirecting and you can report that ad.

09-09-2008, 12:46 PM	#18
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	ya you can do all sorts of stuff... if goog doesn't catch you. also I can setup like 50 different ads in each campaign with different landing/display urls. there's really no policing of it.

09-09-2008, 01:01 PM	#23
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Your only saving grace might be if you are a fit blonde hair blue eyed guy. I get away with almost everything and make friends with cops in the process.

09-09-2008, 04:02 PM	#30
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	Probably these are just old ads. When they implemented the rule the final destination url must match the display url it only seemed to apply to newly created ads. The only started policing this about 6 months ago. __________________ Have Asian Language Traffic?

09-09-2008, 04:18 PM	#32
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,837	i am new to this and maybe i got that wrong, but when i use something like zanox and link directly to the destination instead of a landing page (for those who allow that) wouldn't then be the display url www.example.com and the destination url something like www.zanox.com/xxx/xxx/xxx ? which would be fine - as far as i understood. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com