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Old 09-06-2008, 08:40 AM   #1
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None-exclusive sites doesn't sell my ass.. Stats screenshot from ExcitedWives.com

These numbers are ALL from our free hosted galleries...



Anyone from CCBILL feel free to confirm these numbers

The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales.

http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html

When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote!

http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:45 AM   #2
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Nice! Honestly I've seen much the same thing ... with almost the exact same ratios.

Keep templates simple and "real" looking, talk directly to the surfer and their particular interest, and then over-deliver on targeted content and updates, and they convert consistently and keep coming back for more.

I always shake my head in disbelief at the kind of stuff people love, but hey - it takes all kinds, right. Thank god for niches.
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By the way, I think i'm gonna shoot myself when my wife starts getting old and haggard.
Ugh.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:48 AM   #4
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Nice! Honestly I've seen much the same thing ... with almost the exact same ratios.

Keep templates simple and "real" looking, talk directly to the surfer and their particular interest, and then over-deliver on targeted content and updates, and they convert consistently and keep coming back for more.

I always shake my head in disbelief at the kind of stuff people love, but hey - it takes all kinds, right. Thank god for niches.
There's no doubt with all the tube shit going on it's time to promote the niche sites and forget about the "let's fuck on the backseat of a car" kinda sites.
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:49 AM   #5
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By the way, I think i'm gonna shoot myself when my wife starts getting old and haggard.
Ugh.
Why not shoot the wife then and find a new one? They come cheap in Thailand
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When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote!

http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/
Exactly!......I provide the same thing in a different niche...

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Very nice biskoppen! I have excitedwives galleries all over my Granny section. http://www.grampland.com/grannies.html The granny niche kicks ass for sales.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:11 AM   #10
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Very nice biskoppen! I have excitedwives galleries all over my Granny section. http://www.grampland.com/grannies.html The granny niche kicks ass for sales.
Yeah, we were quite suprised as well with this site.. granny isn't something we've dealt much with before..

I've emailed you our best selling FHGs with your ID ready to use.. I emailed via the form on your goat site..

Thanks for promoting the site
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1:700 is not too bad... which is about what I see as well from TGP FHGs depending on program...
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nice stats, almost want to try it myself, but as I open the page I have this automatic response to close that as fast as possible.

here are my stats from over promoted sponsors with complicated designs ;)

This week:
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Yeah, I was shocked earlier this year when I first opened up that "Granny" section. I had no idea. My guess is that it's been an underserviced niche and the guys who are into it have had trouble finding that kind of stuff.

The thing I wonder about...is where do they find the women? I woudn't have a clue how to walk up to a 60+ year old woman and ask her to do a hardcore anal scene.

And I have to say...those women have some guts to do that at their age.
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Yeah, I was shocked earlier this year when I first opened up that "Granny" section. I had no idea. My guess is that it's been an underserviced niche and the guys who are into it have had trouble finding that kind of stuff.

The thing I wonder about...is where do they find the women? I woudn't have a clue how to walk up to a 60+ year old woman and ask her to do a hardcore anal scene.

And I have to say...those women have some guts to do that at their age.
Yeah, I can't say that I'd appreciate seeing my grandma with a 12 inch black pole up her crapper, but we have to assume that these "ladies" are adults and they did this because they wanted to
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nice stats, almost want to try it myself, but as I open the page I have this automatic response to close that as fast as possible.

here are my stats from over promoted sponsors with complicated designs ;)

This week:
Nice! Here's mine for this week:



Shit should pick up a lot with rebills next week.
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Nice! Here's mine for this week:

Shit should pick up a lot with rebills next week.
nice got me beat by a mile, thou I'm only a gallery submitter

everytime I try other things I fail.. money wise
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nice got me beat by a mile, thou I'm only a gallery submitter

everytime I try other things I fail.. money wise
You're doing great! These days, with tubes and torrents it's getting hard to sell some of the sites that used to do so well. Hell, their entire members areas are ripped on tubes and torrents for free. All things considered, as a gallery submitter in this day and age you are kicking ass!
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You're doing great! These days, with tubes and torrents it's getting hard to sell some of the sites that used to do so well. Hell, their entire members areas are ripped on tubes and torrents for free. All things considered, as a gallery submitter in this day and age you are kicking ass!
well I been doing it since day 1, almost 10 years now.

I remember teaching ppl like brazzer how to do galleries. and hundreds of others. not that it hard lol.

"kicks _self in ass"

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well I been doing it since day 1, almost 10 years now.

I remember teaching ppl like brazzer how to do galleries. and hundreds of others.

"kicks _self in ass"
Me too. Since 1998. I remember Blacks On Blondes giving me a user/pass back in 1999 and I would make a gallery a day and stick them on AL4A and Ampland and make $10,000 a month just off of them. Hell I still get an old Epoch check from them to this very day from rebills from that time.
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The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales.

http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html
Do you have a CTR estimate for that template? Of course when you list the cost of joining the paysite on the gallery, your ratios will be great but CTR will be way lower...
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Do you have a CTR estimate for that template? Of course when you list the cost of joining the paysite on the gallery, your ratios will be great but CTR will be way lower...
No, we haven't measured that, but you're very right that price naming gives better ratios... on the other hand the template also have a "Continue to the videos" link which usually does 5-7% CTR
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http://web.archive.org/web/200212210...igbigjuju.html

I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.
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No, we haven't measured that, but you're very right that price naming gives better ratios... on the other hand the template also have a "Continue to the videos" link which usually does 5-7% CTR
thats very good ratios, when normal ctr years ago was 1-3%, im way below 1% now
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I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.
That is fucking gold
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I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.
I remember seeing those galleries and laughing my ass off! Loved 'em! As I recall there was one guy who really did them up and made up characters dressed as African warriors with rings in their nose and shit in the graphics. Was that you? That shit was fucking hilarious!
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Nice stats everyone

Robbie you are killing it. Is that just grampland or claudia marie as well?

Fucksakes email me if you don't mind bizshap at twistys dot com. Maybe I can help you make more
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It´s a clean and simple template, obviously it sells. But your GEO translation for the tour sucks. I got this and couldn´t stop laughing. I nearly splashed my coffee over my keyboard:

"Ältere Dame genießt den Geschmack einiger junger männlicher Fleisch in der Küche.
Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern."



It´s a good idea to translate the tour, but you should think of another translator. it´s like a German talking to a waiter in England: "When will I become a beefsteak?" The waiter replies: "Never I hope"....

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These numbers are ALL from our free hosted galleries...



Anyone from CCBILL feel free to confirm these numbers

The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales.

http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html

When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote!

http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/
Great Stats Biskoppen. Hit me up on email. I'd love to get your galleries in rotation on Thumbzilla
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Shap, since you bought thumbzilla...How come we aren't doing a trade between zilla and Grampland.com? WTF?!?!
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It´s a clean and simple template, obviously it sells. But your GEO translation for the tour sucks. I got this and couldn´t stop laughing. I nearly splashed my coffee over my keyboard:

"Ältere Dame genießt den Geschmack einiger junger männlicher Fleisch in der Küche.
Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern."



It´s a good idea to translate the tour, but you should think of another translator. it´s like a German talking to a waiter in England: "When will I become a beefsteak?" The waiter replies: "Never I hope"....
We know!!! It's all just made from google translator... But it seems to work just great
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We know!!! It's all just made from google translator... But it seems to work just great
No shit? Works well with German traffic? If so, I´ll give it a try.
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Great Stats Biskoppen. Hit me up on email. I'd love to get your galleries in rotation on Thumbzilla
Sounds nice, just finishing dinner here and I'll email you
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No shit? Works well with German traffic? If so, I´ll give it a try.
We have lots of german customers yes
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I have excitedwives up on gramplands main page now. http://grampland.com/mmpage.html
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Best of luck to you! (to us both)
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Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern."
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Love the site man, design is simple and easy for surfers to know what they're getting. Your header tag isn't set tho. Shows "template" Maybe you want to change that... For search engine purposes.

On the hosted gallery I mean... just incase you were looking at the main page.
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Love the site man, design is simple and easy for surfers to know what they're getting. Your header tag isn't set tho. Shows "template" Maybe you want to change that... For search engine purposes.

On the hosted gallery I mean... just incase you were looking at the main page.
Thanks for noticing Fixed
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