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biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 08:40 AM

These numbers are ALL from our free hosted galleries...

Anyone from CCBILL feel free to confirm these numbers

The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales.

http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html

When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote!

http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/

gornyhuy · 09-06-2008, 08:45 AM

Nice! Honestly I've seen much the same thing ... with almost the exact same ratios.

Keep templates simple and "real" looking, talk directly to the surfer and their particular interest, and then over-deliver on targeted content and updates, and they convert consistently and keep coming back for more.

I always shake my head in disbelief at the kind of stuff people love, but hey - it takes all kinds, right. Thank god for niches.

gornyhuy · 09-06-2008, 08:46 AM

By the way, I think i'm gonna shoot myself when my wife starts getting old and haggard.
Ugh.

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy

Nice! Honestly I've seen much the same thing ... with almost the exact same ratios.

Keep templates simple and "real" looking, talk directly to the surfer and their particular interest, and then over-deliver on targeted content and updates, and they convert consistently and keep coming back for more.

I always shake my head in disbelief at the kind of stuff people love, but hey - it takes all kinds, right. Thank god for niches.

There's no doubt with all the tube shit going on it's time to promote the niche sites and forget about the "let's fuck on the backseat of a car" kinda sites.

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy

By the way, I think i'm gonna shoot myself when my wife starts getting old and haggard.
Ugh.

Why not shoot the wife then and find a new one? They come cheap in Thailand

BVF · 09-06-2008, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote!

http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/

Exactly!......I provide the same thing in a different niche...

Webmasters see sig!

Grisey · 09-06-2008, 08:56 AM

Very nice stats man

gornyhuy · 09-06-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Exactly!......I provide the same thing in a different niche...

Webmasters see sig!

BVF is the perfect example of a man identifying an obscure niche and fucking owning it.

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 09:05 AM

Very nice biskoppen! I have excitedwives galleries all over my Granny section. http://www.grampland.com/grannies.html The granny niche kicks ass for sales.

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Very nice biskoppen! I have excitedwives galleries all over my Granny section. http://www.grampland.com/grannies.html The granny niche kicks ass for sales.

Yeah, we were quite suprised as well with this site.. granny isn't something we've dealt much with before..

I've emailed you our best selling FHGs with your ID ready to use.. I emailed via the form on your goat site..

Thanks for promoting the site

Iron Fist · 09-06-2008, 09:15 AM

1:700 is not too bad... which is about what I see as well from TGP FHGs depending on program...

Fucksakes · 09-06-2008, 09:15 AM

nice stats, almost want to try it myself, but as I open the page I have this automatic response to close that as fast as possible.

here are my stats from over promoted sponsors with complicated designs ;)

This week:

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 09:16 AM

Yeah, I was shocked earlier this year when I first opened up that "Granny" section. I had no idea. My guess is that it's been an underserviced niche and the guys who are into it have had trouble finding that kind of stuff.

The thing I wonder about...is where do they find the women? I woudn't have a clue how to walk up to a 60+ year old woman and ask her to do a hardcore anal scene.

And I have to say...those women have some guts to do that at their age.

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Yeah, I was shocked earlier this year when I first opened up that "Granny" section. I had no idea. My guess is that it's been an underserviced niche and the guys who are into it have had trouble finding that kind of stuff.

The thing I wonder about...is where do they find the women? I woudn't have a clue how to walk up to a 60+ year old woman and ask her to do a hardcore anal scene.

And I have to say...those women have some guts to do that at their age.

Yeah, I can't say that I'd appreciate seeing my grandma with a 12 inch black pole up her crapper, but we have to assume that these "ladies" are adults and they did this because they wanted to

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes

nice stats, almost want to try it myself, but as I open the page I have this automatic response to close that as fast as possible.

here are my stats from over promoted sponsors with complicated designs ;)

This week:

Nice! Here's mine for this week:

Shit should pick up a lot with rebills next week.

Fucksakes · 09-06-2008, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

Nice! Here's mine for this week:

Shit should pick up a lot with rebills next week.

nice got me beat by a mile, thou I'm only a gallery submitter

everytime I try other things I fail.. money wise

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes

nice got me beat by a mile, thou I'm only a gallery submitter

everytime I try other things I fail.. money wise

You're doing great! These days, with tubes and torrents it's getting hard to sell some of the sites that used to do so well. Hell, their entire members areas are ripped on tubes and torrents for free. All things considered, as a gallery submitter in this day and age you are kicking ass!

Fucksakes · 09-06-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You're doing great! These days, with tubes and torrents it's getting hard to sell some of the sites that used to do so well. Hell, their entire members areas are ripped on tubes and torrents for free. All things considered, as a gallery submitter in this day and age you are kicking ass!

well I been doing it since day 1, almost 10 years now.

I remember teaching ppl like brazzer how to do galleries. and hundreds of others. not that it hard lol.

"kicks _self in ass"

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes

well I been doing it since day 1, almost 10 years now.

I remember teaching ppl like brazzer how to do galleries. and hundreds of others.

"kicks _self in ass"

Me too. Since 1998. I remember Blacks On Blondes giving me a user/pass back in 1999 and I would make a gallery a day and stick them on AL4A and Ampland and make $10,000 a month just off of them. Hell I still get an old Epoch check from them to this very day from rebills from that time.

fuzebox · 09-06-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales.

http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html

Do you have a CTR estimate for that template? Of course when you list the cost of joining the paysite on the gallery, your ratios will be great but CTR will be way lower...

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Do you have a CTR estimate for that template? Of course when you list the cost of joining the paysite on the gallery, your ratios will be great but CTR will be way lower...

No, we haven't measured that, but you're very right that price naming gives better ratios... on the other hand the template also have a "Continue to the videos" link which usually does 5-7% CTR

Fucksakes · 09-06-2008, 09:52 AM

http://web.archive.org/web/200212210...igbigjuju.html

I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.

Fucksakes · 09-06-2008, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

No, we haven't measured that, but you're very right that price naming gives better ratios... on the other hand the template also have a "Continue to the videos" link which usually does 5-7% CTR

thats very good ratios, when normal ctr years ago was 1-3%, im way below 1% now

fuzebox · 09-06-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes

http://web.archive.org/web/200212210...igbigjuju.html

I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.

That is fucking gold

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Fucksakes

http://web.archive.org/web/200212210...igbigjuju.html

I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.

I remember seeing those galleries and laughing my ass off! Loved 'em!

As I recall there was one guy who really did them up and made up characters dressed as African warriors with rings in their nose and shit in the graphics. Was that you? That shit was fucking hilarious!

Shap · 09-06-2008, 10:02 AM

Nice stats everyone

Robbie you are killing it. Is that just grampland or claudia marie as well?

Fucksakes email me if you don't mind bizshap at twistys dot com. Maybe I can help you make more

frank7799 · 09-06-2008, 10:03 AM

It´s a clean and simple template, obviously it sells. But your GEO translation for the tour sucks. I got this and couldn´t stop laughing. I nearly splashed my coffee over my keyboard:

"Ältere Dame genießt den Geschmack einiger junger männlicher Fleisch in der Küche.
Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern."

It´s a good idea to translate the tour, but you should think of another translator. it´s like a German talking to a waiter in England: "When will I become a beefsteak?" The waiter replies: "Never I hope"....

Shap · 09-06-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

These numbers are ALL from our free hosted galleries...

Anyone from CCBILL feel free to confirm these numbers

The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales.

http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html

When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote!

http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/

Great Stats Biskoppen. Hit me up on email. I'd love to get your galleries in rotation on Thumbzilla

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 10:29 AM

Shap, since you bought thumbzilla...How come we aren't doing a trade between zilla and Grampland.com? WTF?!?!

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4yadult

It´s a clean and simple template, obviously it sells. But your GEO translation for the tour sucks. I got this and couldn´t stop laughing. I nearly splashed my coffee over my keyboard:

"Ältere Dame genießt den Geschmack einiger junger männlicher Fleisch in der Küche.
Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern."

It´s a good idea to translate the tour, but you should think of another translator. it´s like a German talking to a waiter in England: "When will I become a beefsteak?" The waiter replies: "Never I hope"....

We know!!!

It's all just made from google translator...

But it seems to work just great

frank7799 · 09-06-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

We know!!!

It's all just made from google translator...

But it seems to work just great

No shit? Works well with German traffic? If so, I´ll give it a try.

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Great Stats Biskoppen. Hit me up on email. I'd love to get your galleries in rotation on Thumbzilla

Sounds nice, just finishing dinner here and I'll email you

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4yadult

No shit? Works well with German traffic? If so, I´ll give it a try.

We have lots of german customers yes

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Great Stats Biskoppen. Hit me up on email. I'd love to get your galleries in rotation on Thumbzilla

You got mail

Robbie · 09-06-2008, 11:25 AM

I have excitedwives up on gramplands main page now.

http://grampland.com/mmpage.html

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie

I have excitedwives up on gramplands main page now.

http://grampland.com/mmpage.html

Best of luck to you! (to us both)

hjnet · 09-06-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4yadult

"Ältere Dame genießt den Geschmack einiger junger männlicher Fleisch in der Küche.
Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern."

Online Translators are fun:
"An older lady enjoys the taste of some young male meats in the kitchen. She some free course of cooking gefickt is as she becomes even, behind and smacked in her Hintern."

Ross · 09-06-2008, 12:37 PM

Love the site man, design is simple and easy for surfers to know what they're getting. Your header tag isn't set tho. Shows "template" Maybe you want to change that... For search engine purposes.

On the hosted gallery I mean... just incase you were looking at the main page.

biskoppen · 09-06-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

Love the site man, design is simple and easy for surfers to know what they're getting. Your header tag isn't set tho. Shows "template" Maybe you want to change that... For search engine purposes.

On the hosted gallery I mean... just incase you were looking at the main page.

Thanks for noticing

Fixed

AdultTrafficMedia · 09-06-2008, 04:59 PM

Good thread. Good reading.

bbm · 09-06-2008, 06:41 PM

They sell your dick

biskoppen · 09-07-2008, 07:38 AM

bump.......

DWB · 09-07-2008, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy

BVF is the perfect example of a man identifying an obscure niche and fucking owning it.

Indeed. I've been giving BVF props since day one and every webmasters who laughs at him or his content shows their ignorance.

Ross · 09-07-2008, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biskoppen

Thanks for noticing

Fixed

No worries man. Thats the one thing I always forget to do as well LOL.

09-06-2008, 08:40 AM	#1
biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	None-exclusive sites doesn't sell my ass.. Stats screenshot from ExcitedWives.com These numbers are ALL from our free hosted galleries... Anyone from CCBILL feel free to confirm these numbers The below simple template, which is made with sales in mind, not being "good looking" to get ignorant webmasters to promote it, is the responsible for the main part of the above sales. http://www.excitedwives.com/fhgv/har...88/granny.html When you realize that there's a huge difference between REAL webmasters making paysites and big companies hiring top dollar designers with no clue about the business to make their sites you're going to find the right sites to promote! http://www.excitedwives.com/tour/ __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

09-06-2008, 08:45 AM	#2
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Nice! Honestly I've seen much the same thing ... with almost the exact same ratios. Keep templates simple and "real" looking, talk directly to the surfer and their particular interest, and then over-deliver on targeted content and updates, and they convert consistently and keep coming back for more. I always shake my head in disbelief at the kind of stuff people love, but hey - it takes all kinds, right. Thank god for niches. __________________ icq:159548293

09-06-2008, 08:46 AM	#3
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09-06-2008, 08:56 AM	#7
Grisey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uk Posts: 1,805	Very nice stats man __________________ Segpay Suck Ass Worse Billing Company Allurecash Scammers and don't pay

09-06-2008, 09:05 AM	#9
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Very nice biskoppen! I have excitedwives galleries all over my Granny section. http://www.grampland.com/grannies.html The granny niche kicks ass for sales. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-06-2008, 09:15 AM	#11
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	1:700 is not too bad... which is about what I see as well from TGP FHGs depending on program... __________________ i like waffles

09-06-2008, 09:15 AM	#12
Fucksakes Shit... Fuck! What the Hell? Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,567	nice stats, almost want to try it myself, but as I open the page I have this automatic response to close that as fast as possible. here are my stats from over promoted sponsors with complicated designs ;) This week:

09-06-2008, 09:16 AM	#13
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Yeah, I was shocked earlier this year when I first opened up that "Granny" section. I had no idea. My guess is that it's been an underserviced niche and the guys who are into it have had trouble finding that kind of stuff. The thing I wonder about...is where do they find the women? I woudn't have a clue how to walk up to a 60+ year old woman and ask her to do a hardcore anal scene. And I have to say...those women have some guts to do that at their age. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-06-2008, 09:52 AM	#22
Fucksakes Shit... Fuck! What the Hell? Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,567	http://web.archive.org/web/200212210...igbigjuju.html I submitted this, don't remember much about it thou.

09-06-2008, 10:02 AM	#26
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Nice stats everyone Robbie you are killing it. Is that just grampland or claudia marie as well? Fucksakes email me if you don't mind bizshap at twistys dot com. Maybe I can help you make more

09-06-2008, 10:03 AM	#27
frank7799 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere... Posts: 1,974	It´s a clean and simple template, obviously it sells. But your GEO translation for the tour sucks. I got this and couldn´t stop laughing. I nearly splashed my coffee over my keyboard: "Ältere Dame genießt den Geschmack einiger junger männlicher Fleisch in der Küche. Sie ist sogar ein gewisser kostenlos Kochkurse wie sie gefickt wird, von hinten und smacked in ihrem Hintern." It´s a good idea to translate the tour, but you should think of another translator. it´s like a German talking to a waiter in England: "When will I become a beefsteak?" The waiter replies: "Never I hope".... Last edited by frank7799; 09-06-2008 at 10:05 AM..

09-06-2008, 10:29 AM	#29
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	Shap, since you bought thumbzilla...How come we aren't doing a trade between zilla and Grampland.com? WTF?!?! __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-06-2008, 11:25 AM	#35
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,959	I have excitedwives up on gramplands main page now. http://grampland.com/mmpage.html __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

09-06-2008, 12:37 PM	#38
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	Love the site man, design is simple and easy for surfers to know what they're getting. Your header tag isn't set tho. Shows "template" Maybe you want to change that... For search engine purposes. On the hosted gallery I mean... just incase you were looking at the main page.

09-06-2008, 04:59 PM	#40
AdultTrafficMedia Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 155	Good thread. Good reading.

09-06-2008, 06:41 PM	#41
bbm So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,710	They sell your dick

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biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	bump....... __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here