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mikesouth · 09-02-2008, 09:24 PM

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

By MikeSouth

Sinclair Lewis said, ?When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.?

When I look at what is happening to people who exercise their constitutional rights at the party conventions, frankly it scares me. Free Speech zones? I thought AMERICA is a Free Speech zone. What has happened to us? We have been led by our government to believe that it grants us these rights and can therefor revoke them? The Consitution expressly forbids the government from doing exactly that, why aren?t we standing up to these people? By George Bush?s and this governments standards every one of our founding fathers would be a ?terrorist? today and as such they would be jailed, with none of the rights gauranteed them by the very Constitution they framed.

How have we let this happen?

? Naturally the common people don?t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.?
~ Hermann Goering

If that doesn?t send a chill up your spine?.oh wait?This is America we haven?t got a spine anymore.

Barefootsies · 09-02-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

It's been here for some time now toots.

baddog · 09-02-2008, 09:26 PM

Just because you have the right to free speech it does not mean you have the right to interrupt me while I am exercising my right to free speech.

After Shock Media · 09-02-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Just because you have the right to free speech it does not mean you have the right to interrupt me while I am exercising my right to free speech.

Isnt that exactly what those Harley groups are doing to that one wackjob church who likes to protest veteran funerals and the like? I really seem to recall them pointing tailpipes the direction of the church protesters and revving their bikes up to drown out their protesting.

baddog · 09-02-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Isnt that exactly what those Harley groups are doing to that one wackjob church who likes to protest veteran funerals and the like? I really seem to recall them pointing tailpipes the direction of the church protesters and revving their bikes up to drown out their protesting.

Because the wackos were disrupting several rights of others: Freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, freedom to practice religion.

After Shock Media · 09-02-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Because the wackos were disrupting several rights of others: Freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, freedom to practice religion.

And I thought they both were legally performing their rights and why neither side gets arrested.

baddog · 09-02-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

And I thought they both were legally performing their rights and why neither side gets arrested.

Well, I have to bow out since I was involved in none of what you are talking about and only heard very little about it, so I have no idea what the results were.

mikesouth · 09-02-2008, 09:58 PM

I think in all honesty that political discourse is good, its proof that the system works.

shouting louder so that people cant hear the other guy means that you are unsure of your position, therefor you dont want the other position to be heard. The guy guy trying to squelch the free speech of the other guy cant make a good enough case to persuade the people he is of the correct view. Listen to Sean Hannity and you hear this being done daily.

The intelligent among us see this for what it is, simply a diversionary tactic used by one side or the other to prevent the other guy from making a point because that guy doing the disrupting isnt confident enough that his point is superior.

Sadly in these days of combative talk radio it has all devolved to Jerry Springer-esque tactics. Nobody thinks anymore, they simply react.

Someone please point me Galt's Gulch would ya?

GigoloShawn · 09-02-2008, 10:07 PM

I'm hungry

By GigoloShawn

I'm hungry. No shit. I'm not going to force my opinion on you because I think I'm smarter than you; I'm not here to try to sway you or belittle you no matter how much you may deserve it; I'm here to make you money.

I want some tacos. I'm hungry.

09-02-2008, 09:24 PM	#1
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. By MikeSouth Sinclair Lewis said, ?When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.? When I look at what is happening to people who exercise their constitutional rights at the party conventions, frankly it scares me. Free Speech zones? I thought AMERICA is a Free Speech zone. What has happened to us? We have been led by our government to believe that it grants us these rights and can therefor revoke them? The Consitution expressly forbids the government from doing exactly that, why aren?t we standing up to these people? By George Bush?s and this governments standards every one of our founding fathers would be a ?terrorist? today and as such they would be jailed, with none of the rights gauranteed them by the very Constitution they framed. How have we let this happen? ? Naturally the common people don?t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.? ~ Hermann Goering If that doesn?t send a chill up your spine?.oh wait?This is America we haven?t got a spine anymore. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-02-2008, 09:58 PM	#8
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	I think in all honesty that political discourse is good, its proof that the system works. shouting louder so that people cant hear the other guy means that you are unsure of your position, therefor you dont want the other position to be heard. The guy guy trying to squelch the free speech of the other guy cant make a good enough case to persuade the people he is of the correct view. Listen to Sean Hannity and you hear this being done daily. The intelligent among us see this for what it is, simply a diversionary tactic used by one side or the other to prevent the other guy from making a point because that guy doing the disrupting isnt confident enough that his point is superior. Sadly in these days of combative talk radio it has all devolved to Jerry Springer-esque tactics. Nobody thinks anymore, they simply react. Someone please point me Galt's Gulch would ya? __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

09-02-2008, 10:07 PM	#9
GigoloShawn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: No longer with Star Marketing Group. Posts: 700	I'm hungry By GigoloShawn I'm hungry. No shit. I'm not going to force my opinion on you because I think I'm smarter than you; I'm not here to try to sway you or belittle you no matter how much you may deserve it; I'm here to make you money. I want some tacos. I'm hungry. __________________ I no longer represent TrafficGigolos, please contact Justin or Rebecca with any issues.

09-02-2008, 09:26 PM	#3
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Just because you have the right to free speech it does not mean you have the right to interrupt me while I am exercising my right to free speech.