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Old 08-30-2008, 09:05 PM   #51
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yeah, that 65% approval rating was a tough stigma to carry into an election campaign.
You really like to cherry pick numbers so you can give one line responses that you think are witty don't you?

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/polls...l_approval.htm

Eisenhower 59% approval rating leaving office, Nixon lost to Kennedy.

George H.W. Bush had a 56% approval rating, and lost re-election.

Gerald Ford had a 53% approval rating, and lost re-election.

There are just as many examples going the other way....which basically tells me that the number you chose doesn't mean shit....it was just your way of trying to give a one line witty (at least you thought it was witty) retort.

There are many reasons Gore lost that election (the Supreme Court being the main one, our archaic way of deciding presidential elections being the 2nd), but a big part of the reason was he was tainted with Clinton's moral shortcomings, and running against a guy who talked about "restoring honor and morality to the white house" and people bought it.

Sure being Clinton's veep had some positives for Gore, but kane's statement that Gore was "handed the presidency on a silver platter" is utterly ridiculous.
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Old 08-30-2008, 09:09 PM   #52
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you are probably right, they always looked so grim when I was young. lol
Shit he still looks grim.
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Old 08-31-2008, 02:49 PM   #53
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Use of the word rockstar makes it like its all very empty.He is a special guy that can connect with people on a large scale.
Rock stars connect with people on a large scale

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That's a gift and a sign of a great leader.
It certainly is a gift, and a sign of being great at becoming a leader. However, it certainly is not a sign of actually being a great leader. It describes JFK, Hitler, Tony Blair... basically, lots of past leaders, ranging from great to mediocre to atrocious.

Charisma is a great tool in politics, but it says very little about someone's actual performance.

Compare it to a charismatic CEO. He might be great at inspiring the workforce and persuading the board to go along with his plans, but in the end, his plans matter most. Bad judgment, wrong decisions, improper planning, lack of attention to detail - things like that can bring the whole company down no matter how charismatic the CEO is.

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When I listened to that speech at the convention, for the first time in my life. I was watching someone run for political office that I would take a bullet for.
Tony, you're a nice guy, but that's just downright fucking scary.
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