Enzyte owner gets 25 years + $500 million

[BradM]

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.../BIZ/308270019

PEWF. URDED.

[BradM]

Originally Posted by kandah

So, are the penis pill guys worried now?

I would think so - probably time to tone down their claims.

[The Duck]

So, are the penis pill guys worried now?

[The Duck]

I think it's lame to promote that kind of stuff.

[Jman]

Yikes... that's a hefty fine.

[Kudles]

Wow thats a lot of money

[klaze]

Warshak's 75-year-old mother, Harriet Warshack, received a two-year sentence.
But because of her failing health, the judge allowed her to remain free pending her appeal, which could several years.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude p0wned his own MOMMA!

[mynameisjim]

It wasn't the phony pills that got him, it was the charging of credit cards beyond what customers agreed to and their "auto ship" program. If he just sold the phony pills he would of been alright probably.

But hopefully those ads wont be on TV anymore, I hated that smiling guy.

[CIVMatt]

Yeah I was going to say 25 years at first was a little excessive

[sumphatpimp]

I wonder if he will be selling those pills in prison?
better bring the Anal Ease.

[Chris]

the claims part is nothing to worry about really
as stated in the thread already it was his biz practices that got him and his greed

you could NEVER cancel with them
they would say they would refund and never do it
keep sending after asking them not to

[qxm]

Holly Shit ... Owned! ... now lets here about the annoying Extenze ... with their "Stein Institute" ... lol

[DWB]

Uh-Oh... a fello Nati' man goes down.

[Chauncy]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

It wasn't the phony pills that got him, it was the charging of credit cards beyond what customers agreed to and their "auto ship" program. If he just sold the phony pills he would of been alright probably.

But hopefully those ads wont be on TV anymore, I hated that smiling guy.

you mean like pre checked cross sales

[SykkBoy]

Now Bob's asshole will be as wide as his smile...

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Now Bob's asshole will be as wide as his smile...

Non violent offender. Probably serve time at club fed. Still losing freedom for 25 years isn't easy no matter wher it's served. Being a federal conviction he'll do at least 22 years.

[gornyhuy]

Cah-RUSHED.

[gornyhuy]

I think I would be doing anything in my power to flee the country if I had socked away many millions in swiss accounts and was facing 25 big ones...

I'd disappear into the outback or some pacific island or something.>> Get a little facial surgery and retire into a discrete house in paradise.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

It wasn't the phony pills that got him, it was the charging of credit cards beyond what customers agreed to and their "auto ship" program. If he just sold the phony pills he would of been alright probably.

But hopefully those ads wont be on TV anymore, I hated that smiling guy.

I always find it kind of funny how people can get by by doing something a little bit shady... but then they push the envelope just a little bit more and that's what gets them. It seems like every white collar crime ends up like that... they get something going good, and then they just get a little too greedy and push it too far.

[BradM]

Originally Posted by Sly

I always find it kind of funny how people can get by by doing something a little bit shady... but then they push the envelope just a little bit more and that's what gets them. It seems like every white collar crime ends up like that... they get something going good, and then they just get a little too greedy and push it too far.

Yea indeed.

[woj]

wow, he got screwed good...

[klaze]

What was his net worth?

Even if he only does 7 of the 25 years paying back that $500mil will likely kill him.

[Phil]

Fuck, no wonder it never worked and I'm still ordering..

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

fuck, shit, god, dang, mother, fucker, shit.........

























FUck it..

[tiger]

Those were some seriously annoying commercials.

[MrMaxwell]

Once the feds pick something up, you're fucked.

95% conviction rate
And you do at least 85%

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by tiger

Those were some seriously annoying commercials.

God Damn, they sure were.
And the whole time I always am thinking I'd hate being any bigger.
I'm no huge horse cock but I would rather be smaller than larger.
If I could be 3" I could get the whole thing into a womans mouth.
Grrr.
I don't like being throated.
Being deep mouthed would just be wonderful.

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Too much attention... thats what killed him.

[HomerSimpson]

Misleading sales are bad thing.
I saw lot of it in adult biz.

In adult it gGoes something like this:
"Join now for free! Just leave us your CC for Age Verification!"

Nothing about charging is mentioned to the customer.
Customer signs up and after 3 days it starts rebilling...

Those doing this should go to jail, since are just robing people and make other from adult biz look wrong in media.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

Misleading sales are bad thing.
I saw lot of it in adult biz.

In adult it gGoes something like this:
"Join now for free! Just leave us your CC for Age Verification!"

Nothing about charging is mentioned to the customer.
Customer signs up and after 3 days it starts rebilling...

Those doing this should go to jail, since are just robing people and make other from adult biz look wrong in media.

THAT is a misleading statement that you just typed lol There is always the fine print about rebilling after the trial is over AND the customer gets an email with his user/pass & an explanation that he will be rebilled after the trial is over and every 30 days after until he cancels. I'm not even sure why you said something like that when you should know it's not true

[BigBen]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

I bet he got a tough sentence due to NOT telling the feds where the money is. Look at Martha, TYCO, and ENRON all rolled and got reduced sentences.

The judge is just pissed that Enzyte didn't work for him.

[pocketkangaroo]

While I don't have a problem with the length, it does seem real high. I mean 25 years? Child rapists don't even get that.

And this seems to have less to do about the claims and more to do about credit card fraud. Funny thing is that there are people in adult doing worse. Wonder how long it will take to catch up.

[F-U-Jimmy]

Originally Posted by sumphatpimp

I wonder if he will be selling those pills in prison?
better bring the Anal Ease.

No! he has a new product out, a super large butt plug. He will be his own best customer

[D Ghost]

daaamn, i always liked those commercials though

[lazycash]

Interesting comment under that article:

"alright first off lets clear some things up i worked for berkley from 2003 til 2006 every day warshak was there at the office in forest park he was never alone, he was always with 10 to 15 lawyers, he had to forfit 20 mil. he hid some in cali were he lives, his wife is a high risk pregnancy MD and has an A list of cliants, warshak also owns fathead which he used to launder money that was suppose to be forfited, with that out of the way lets get into what he did,
twice while i worked there the fbi showed up they made us leave all work all paper and even our cellphones there .my team lead steve pugh (steve was a hunchback, had some type of scoliosis) went to the warehouse and hid mass amounts of enzyte and avlamil the reason is the pills did not weigh what they were suppose to hence what was in the pills was not what was labeled. credit cards were charged without concent and ppl were put on auto ship when they had just asked for the trial pack"

[robfantasy]

ever tried to get a refund for cell phone bill charges?

[BradM]

Originally Posted by robfantasy

ever tried to get a refund for cell phone bill charges?

SO true man.

[robfantasy]

Originally Posted by BradM

SO true man.

cell phone companies are the biggest crooks.

-shitty service
-hidden charges
-stonewall refund policies
-terms buried in pages of legal speak you need a lawyer to decode for you.
-locked into contracts you cannot get out of

the world is really fucked up

[dynastoned]

thats what happens when you try to hide money from the feds.

[dav3]

those fucking pills sucked... my penis never made it above 4 inches!

[mikeyddddd]

[Minte]

They gave him the extra 10 years for that annoying whistling television ad.
Seems fair to me..

[TheAmericanCannibal]

The Only Time Whales Get Harpooned....

Is when they COME UP TO SPOUT.

Think about it.

PS Joe Francis played with the same game of auto shipping and got nailed too.
He paid a hefty fine-

But then again- he is still going through some Federal Tax shit and he can end up losing everything as well.

[crockett]

"The key to the scheme was Berkeley’s “continuity program,” which automatically charged additional orders of Enzyte to credit cards each month. The program was not fully disclosed in ads, and customers who complained were given the run-around or referred to a “quality control” officer who did not exist."


I wonder if some of these cross sales that are going on in this industry could be targeted in the same way.

[BradM]

Originally Posted by crockett

"The key to the scheme was Berkeley’s “continuity program,” which automatically charged additional orders of Enzyte to credit cards each month. The program was not fully disclosed in ads, and customers who complained were given the run-around or referred to a “quality control” officer who did not exist."


I wonder if some of these cross sales that are going on in this industry could be targeted in the same way.

Absolutely.

KB: You're exactly right.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by crockett

"The key to the scheme was Berkeley?s ?continuity program,? which automatically charged additional orders of Enzyte to credit cards each month. The program was not fully disclosed in ads, and customers who complained were given the run-around or referred to a ?quality control? officer who did not exist."


I wonder if some of these cross sales that are going on in this industry could be targeted in the same way.

No they are apples and oranges. A member gets emails with cancel links as soon as they buy a membership that has a pre-check. They get an email from the "host" paysite. AND a separate email from the x-sell site. User/Pass and full instructions and links to cancel are included along with support phone and email. So "no" All this x-sell drama is just that: drama Been going on for years, and adult didn't invent pre-checked x-sells. They've been in "mainstream" even longer. Not to mention the "Free" software that people download to this very day that installs shit like zango and other programs on your computer without your knowledge.

[Bird]

I knoew a chick that used to work there, i got to tell her

[brassmonkey]

damn thats a serious bid

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by Jon Clark

fuck, shit, god, dang, mother, fucker, shit.........

FUck it..

Oh I know, it's enough to give anyone a case of Tourette's Syndrome.

[Bird]

Lube it up bob!