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Old 08-25-2008, 11:57 AM   #51
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No, as I said before, the rank is based on gold medals won. Period.

This metric was created in the past and was always used to determine who the winner was. This metric was accepted by all countries that take part on the olympics. You guys have always been considered the winners because you had more gold medals.

Your reply was probably the dumbest reply in this thread.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:01 PM   #52
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"America refuses to accept defeat in Olympic medal count."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle4599875.ece
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:39 PM   #53
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If you want to be an athlete here in Brazil you have to finance your own training. Even companies don't support it since there's no fiscal retribution.

Athletes down here in Brazil are true heroes.

Do you REALLY want to compare your country to a country like Brazil?

Wow, I guess it's even worse than I thought.
No, I don't want to compare them. You got hosed this time, obviously.

And many of Canada's athletes have to go it alone too with little to no funding. They are no less heroes here as yours are there. I was just pointing out that Canada took some pretty harsh mocking criticism here last week and yet a country with 6 times the population as us won less medals, that's all. No need to get your postbot's feathers ruffled. :D

At the end of the day, to answer your original question, I'm sure there are those in the USA's athletics commissions who are looking at the medal count closely and seriously considering what to do about it in future, but I would hazard a pretty good guess that most average americans don't give a rat's ass about it as long as their country did well, which they did. Like others have said it isn't about what country wins the most medals, gold or otherwise, it's about the spirit of competition involving athletes coming together from every country in the world.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:41 PM   #54
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Lol, you're kidding, right?

It's ALWAYS been about the amount of gold medals. Not "total" medal.
I'm pretty sure they've always kept track of both.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:53 PM   #55
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I'm pretty sure they've always kept track of both.
Correct. The IOC uses the gold medal standard, but they admit there is no official set standard.

Most countries seem to use whatever method makes them look better. On total medals Canada finished 15th, but on gold medals we finished 19th, for example.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:58 PM   #56
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Correct. The IOC uses the gold medal standard, but they admit there is no official set standard.

Most countries seem to use whatever method makes them look better. On total medals Canada finished 15th, but on gold medals we finished 19th, for example.
Correction: "The IOC issues its league table based on the number of golds won".

From their own site.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:59 PM   #57
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i've never viewed the olympic medal count as a *my country is better than you country* deal.

nevertheless, congrats to china, they put on a terrific event and it could be one of the most amazing olympic games i've seen.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:12 PM   #58
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"America refuses to accept defeat in Olympic medal count."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle4599875.ece

that's a ridiculous article and slanted. EVERY medal count matrix i have seen online or on the tele or in the papers always has the total medals and gold medals.

also, who's speaking for *america* when you say america refuses to accept defeat?

certainly no americans i know.

it's never even come up in the dozens of convos i've had with americans re: this olympics.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:14 PM   #59
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Correction: "The IOC issues its league table based on the number of golds won".

From their own site.
Correction: The IOC issues its league table based on the number of golds won, which gives China the honours, but then admits that there is no official system in place to decide who is top dog.

It's well documented.
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Correction: The IOC issues its league table based on the number of golds won, which gives China the honours, but then admits that there is no official system in place to decide who is top dog.

It's well documented.
i've always understood that to be by design.

the olympics are not about the countries, they are about the athletes.

it appears most americans and canadians understand that as well.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:25 PM   #61
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Is this being talked over there in the US?

What's the repercussion of losing the #1 place to China among americans?

I'm more upset by Tranza bot 2.0
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:44 PM   #62
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There's a few of us out there who look at the Olympics as a global event and use it as an opportunity to put away our nationalistic viewpoints and concentrate on a global perspective.

There are also a few of us out there who are just fucking happy it's over so we don't have to hear any more about China on CNN, Discovery Channel, fucking Animal Planet, BBC, yadi, yadi, yadi.
YOu got to hear about that on CNN??? Man the CNN I get all they can talk about is that missing kid and her mom being released from jail.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:58 PM   #63
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You guys were always the #1 place on the rank, and for the first time China had way over gold medal than the US, winning the Olympics for the first time.

That's what I was referring to.
Well you always do better when you have it in your country..All cool. no drama
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Old 08-25-2008, 02:00 PM   #64
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i've always understood that to be by design.

the olympics are not about the countries, they are about the athletes.

it appears most americans and canadians understand that as well.

Would be nice if that were that way
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Funny that people that are not Americans think we are so invincible.

FACT: Americans lose sometimes and we all put our pants on one leg at time like everyone else.
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