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tranza 08-25-2008 10:35 AM

How do you guys feel about the US losing the Olympics to China??
 
Is this being talked over there in the US?

What's the repercussion of losing the #1 place to China among americans?

baddog 08-25-2008 10:37 AM

I did not even know the Olympics were ours to lose, or that they now belonged to China.

What are you talking about?

tranza 08-25-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14660271)
I did not even know the Olympics were ours to lose, or that they now belonged to China.

What are you talking about?

You guys were always the #1 place on the rank, and for the first time China had way over gold medal than the US, winning the Olympics for the first time.

That's what I was referring to.

klaze 08-25-2008 10:40 AM

China is #1 this year? wow big surprise... NOT!

Fuck China.

CaptainHowdy 08-25-2008 10:42 AM

That has "conspiracy" written all over it...

MarcWomack 08-25-2008 10:43 AM

There's a few of us out there who look at the Olympics as a global event and use it as an opportunity to put away our nationalistic viewpoints and concentrate on a global perspective.

There are also a few of us out there who are just fucking happy it's over so we don't have to hear any more about China on CNN, Discovery Channel, fucking Animal Planet, BBC, yadi, yadi, yadi.

Zoose 08-25-2008 10:44 AM

They're not talking about it at all, probably because they ( American media ) all twisted the stats to where we didn't lose.. instead of the most golds being the stat used to determine who 'won' the olympics, everyone in the US is using total medal count. Personally though, I couldn't care less - China has 5 times as many people as us and they manufacture their athletes from the time they're 3 years old.

Triple10Terry 08-25-2008 10:44 AM

A pic or two might help this thread out:winkwink:

baddog 08-25-2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14660285)
You guys were always the #1 place on the rank, and for the first time China had way over gold medal than the US, winning the Olympics for the first time.

That's what I was referring to.

We had more 10 more medals than them, but since they got more gold than us we are probably going to attack Brazil and Canada.

You really think anyone here gives a flying fuck how many gold medals we got or that we are losing sleep over it?

V_RocKs 08-25-2008 10:45 AM

I think Americans are more obese than ever... Not a big surprise.

directfiesta 08-25-2008 10:45 AM

USA didn't lose .. or win ...

It is a real sport competition to showcase the accomplishments of athletes from everywhere in the world ....

Get into the Olympics spirit .... :2 cents:

tranza 08-25-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14660326)
You really think anyone here gives a flying fuck how many gold medals we got or that we are losing sleep over it?

By the way some people are answering to this thread like it was an attack, and by the way you guys have manufactured the stats so that it doesn't look like you guys lost, yes I do think some people are losing sleep.

:2 cents:

polish_aristocrat 08-25-2008 10:50 AM

Do you think in 16 years China will be more powerful than the United States ?

L-Pink 08-25-2008 10:51 AM

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...y-to-china.jpg


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tranza 08-25-2008 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 14660361)

I think that China already is more powerful than the US.

:2 cents:

Fletch XXX 08-25-2008 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 14660374)

lol

:1orglaugh

B2BwithJoeD 08-25-2008 10:54 AM

Interesting take on the US from a foreign perspective - I've always looked at the events, not at medal totals - with a population of 1.3 billion one might expect the Chinese medal count to be about 100%...

Is anyone in Brazil talking about the volleyball loss to the US? I am sure Brazil was disappointed not to win gold, but does that make the country of Brazil a loser?

What's really amazing is the number of world records set at this Olympics...

Babaganoosh 08-25-2008 10:54 AM

I'm still in shock that tranza can type more than 3 words in a post.

WOW!

I mean seriously...fucking WOW. I had no idea.

WarChild 08-25-2008 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14660378)
I think that China already is more powerful than the US.

:2 cents:

Yeah, but you're pretty much just wrong.

tranza 08-25-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webbilling JoeD (Post 14660392)
Is anyone in Brazil talking about the volleyball loss to the US? I am sure Brazil was disappointed not to win gold, but does that make the country of Brazil a loser?

Yes, everybody is very upset about that over here. It's been all over the news.

:2 cents:

Babaganoosh 08-25-2008 11:02 AM

No wonder this little bitch is badmouthing the US. He's upset that even Canada got more medals than Brazil. :1orglaugh

That would give me an inferiority complex too.

Vendot 08-25-2008 11:02 AM

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2187rank.html

That says it all.

uno 08-25-2008 11:03 AM

There have always been 2 ways of looking at it from what I can remember. # of gold AND # of total medals.

I'm more of the mindframe that # of gold is the "winner", but I don't really care. Both ways seem like valid ways of looking at it.

tranza 08-25-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14660403)
Yeah, but you're pretty much just wrong.

Yeah, but they are.

US huge defict is pretty much backed mainly by Chinese funds. If they decided to collect these loans, the US would be bankrupt.

Then again they would never do that, since they need your market to sell all their crap goods.

tranza 08-25-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14660453)
No wonder this little bitch is badmouthing the US. He's upset that even Canada got more medals than Brazil. :1orglaugh

That would give me an inferiority complex too.

Brazil invested just a little US$100 million in 4 years on sports.

That's pretty much what the US invests in a week.

It's really amazing that brazilian athletes can even get a few medals.

:2 cents:

scottybuzz 08-25-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14660326)
We had more 10 more medals than them, but since they got more gold than us we are probably going to attack Brazil and Canada.

You really think anyone here gives a flying fuck how many gold medals we got or that we are losing sleep over it?

What are you smoking? Pass me some of it please

tranza 08-25-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uno (Post 14660457)
There have always been 2 ways of looking at it from what I can remember. # of gold AND # of total medals.

I'm more of the mindframe that # of gold is the "winner", but I don't really care. Both ways seem like valid ways of looking at it.

Lol, you're kidding, right?

It's ALWAYS been about the amount of gold medals. Not "total" medal.

Vendot 08-25-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 14660403)
Yeah, but you're pretty much just wrong.

Yep ...... China is growing faster than most other countries (India is not far behind in % growth terms) but China is still a 4 trillion GDP at most. USA is 13 trillion GDP. It could take China 20 years to overtake.

US current account balance in 2007 here:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2187rank.html

Babaganoosh 08-25-2008 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14660474)
Brazil invested just a little US$100 million in 4 years on sports.

That's pretty much what the US invests in a week.

It's really amazing that brazilian athletes can even get a few medals.

:2 cents:

Maybe so but then shouldn't you consider that the US only has about 300 million people compared to China's 1.33 BILLION? That's over a billion more people than the US has. Honestly it's amazing that the US got as many medals as we did considering the pool of athletes China had to choose from.

tranza 08-25-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14660401)
blablabla

Don't you have other threads to waste your time with?

Like defending Frank for posting gay porn on his sig, or about some game you love?

farkedup 08-25-2008 11:13 AM

If you're not first you're last...

Ricky Bobby is ashamed of the US

tranza 08-25-2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14660508)
Maybe so but then shouldn't you consider that the US only has about 300 million people compared to China's 1.33 BILLION? That's over a billion more people than the US has. Honestly it's amazing that the US got as many medals as we did considering the pool of athletes China had to choose from.

That's the beauty about the Olympics. If you divided the amount of gold medals by the country population, countries like Australia would win, and the US would have a hard time getting in the top 10 because of tiny countries with a single gold medal.

If you divide the medals by the population, you'd ALWAYS lose. But this time you guys really lost by a metrics that YOU created. And now, you guys are trying to change the metric!

LOL!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

SomeCreep 08-25-2008 11:17 AM

I discredit all of China's golds in women's gymnastics. So basically, they won golds in diving, mens gymnastics, and table tennis. For a country with the biggest population in the world, I thought they'd win more.

Babaganoosh 08-25-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14660512)
Don't you have other threads to waste your time with?

Like defending Frank for posting gay porn on his sig, or about some game you love?

Aww you don't like it when someone makes a point, do you? :1orglaugh

Nice to see you turned off your post bot btw. It was getting incredibly annoying.

CherryV 08-25-2008 11:18 AM

Who cares as long as Canada wins gold in Hockey in the 2010 Vancouver Olympics!!!

Babaganoosh 08-25-2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14660530)
That's the beauty about the Olympics. If you divided the amount of gold medals by the country population, countries like Australia would win, and the US would have a hard time getting in the top 10 because of tiny countries with a single gold medal.

If you divide the medals by the population, you'd ALWAYS lose. But this time you guys really lost by a metrics that YOU created. And now, you guys are trying to change the metric!

LOL!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You were just comparing the amount of money your little stinkhole country invested in sports to the number of medals won. Who is inventing "metrics" now?

tranza 08-25-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CherryV (Post 14660544)
Who cares as long as Canada wins gold in Hockey in the 2010 Vancouver Olympics!!!

:thumbsup:thumbsup

tranza 08-25-2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 14660552)
You were just comparing the amount of money your little stinkhole country invested in sports to the number of medals won. Who is inventing "metrics" now?

You, and your midia. And you're such a sheep you don't even notice it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Reak AGV 08-25-2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 14660361)

They already are

TheDoc 08-25-2008 11:25 AM

I don't care if we won any metals or any golds, or even went. Not because it's in China, but because it's just another game, like the kids playing football in the street yesterday. It doesn't make a single difference about anything other than to the people doing it, which is good thing for them and them alone.

Overall people care about every sport way to damn much. People going nuts, as if life ends to just watch the stupid sport and if it doesn't go as planed the day is ruined.

That is called being legally insane. You people are crazy! :)

Babaganoosh 08-25-2008 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14660578)
You, and your midia. And you're such a sheep you don't even notice it.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Huh?

What are you babbling about?

CDSmith 08-25-2008 11:29 AM

Wow, Brazil has 185 million people and only came away with 15 medals (3 gold)

And mutt started 5 threads bagging on Canada for sucking. :D

RyuLion 08-25-2008 11:31 AM

The more power to them, congrants!

Michaelious 08-25-2008 11:32 AM

I thought it was about individual atheletes

OG LennyT 08-25-2008 11:33 AM

Good for China... we had some stars like Phelps and those volleyball chicks, basketball teams... it's all good.

Like most, I just enjoyed watching some good competition. I could give a shit who had more gold.

CDSmith 08-25-2008 11:34 AM

China put forty BILLION dollars into not only putting on these games but towards insuring that they win the most medals.

That's more money into their sports programs than all other countries combined and then multiplied a few times. And China's system of athlete selection is vastly different than that of the US, UK, Canada, Aussies etc. Theirs is engineered to advance only "gifted" athletes, and they obviously have a massive population on which to draw from.

With that kind of funding and determination to dominate they are going to be tough to beat from here on out. China is the new Russia.

L-Pink 08-25-2008 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14660611)
Wow, Brazil has 185 million people and only came away with 15 medals (3 gold)

And mutt started 5 threads bagging on Canada for sucking. :D

If Tranny fucking was a sport those Brazil figures would really jump.

tranza 08-25-2008 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14660611)
Wow, Brazil has 185 million people and only came away with 15 medals (3 gold)

And mutt started 5 threads bagging on Canada for sucking. :D

If you want to be an athlete here in Brazil you have to finance your own training. Even companies don't support it since there's no fiscal retribution.

Athletes down here in Brazil are true heroes.

Do you REALLY want to compare your country to a country like Brazil?

Wow, I guess it's even worse than I thought.

tranza 08-25-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OG LennyT (Post 14660623)
Good for China... we had some stars like Phelps and those volleyball chicks, basketball teams... it's all good.

Like most, I just enjoyed watching some good competition. I could give a shit who had more gold.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Paco, of Large Cash. 08-25-2008 11:49 AM

WOW! So much for this being about them showing us what they are capable of. Nope! Instead it's the pathetic battle for first---national pride is for fascists and nazis!


So, genius, exactly which formula did you use to derive your conclusion?

Better yet, what variables did you include:
- population
- total number of athletes
- total number of events
- number of athletes/event
- total dollars spent on training etc

It's the same flawed thinking as those that believe Canada lost to the US.

Here's something basic enough that even you can understand:
the importance difference in population makes!
Example: Canada to US = 10 times less!!!
Yes, that IS important since is clearly tells us the US has a much a deeper (gene/athlete) pool. By the time Canada has acquired one hopeful, the US has already been training 10!

Now, add to that the variables which help increase or decrease the advantage:
- total $ spent on training
- total $ spent on aids (swim suits, additional training facilities and the many others which not all can afford)


So, before opening your yap to say whom lost and won, take in to consideration all the variables. Or are you saying you already took in to consideration the fact that China has around 1 billion more people, and their sports concentration camps (training regimes) are virtually second to none?

An intelligent person would not say "" ... blah blah they lost ... " or " ... blah blah they won ...".
But for your sake:
the US (300+mil) only beat Canada (30mil) if the US medal count is more than ten times that of Canada!
China (1.3bil) only beat US (300+mil) if their medal count is four times greater.

I realize that the above is something which truly fair people can only understand. The rest refuse because it does not help them be better than the rest!


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