Underage Chinese? There Goes the Americans Media Whining Again

[Kevsh]

So the Chinese win the team Gold in gymnastics and now there's new stories and investigative reports that some of the girls may be under 16 (the required age to compete). Sounds like sour grapes to me.

But instead lets look at their arguments: That the girls are very small, don't weigh enough and look young

1) One of the girls is only 68 pounds. American girls they say average 100 pounds at 16. What they fail to mention is that on average, Americans weigh more than Chinese people, in fact more than everyone, as the most obese country in the world.

2) They are short - only 4'6" apparently for one of the girls. Besides Yao Ming, is it not possible that Chinese people are generally shorter than Americans, so why would anyone expect their 16-year-old girls to be the same size as American girls?

3) They just look young. Plenty of girls look far younger than their age ... Just ask a few people in porn who own "teen" sites where the 24-year-old model(s) look 18. Lots of people look younger then their age, but CNN isn't trying to keep them honest.

Of course, they may not be 16 after all, China has used an underage girl before in competition. But really, would anyone even care if they didn't crush the Americans and take the gold?

[WWC]

China passed US by 1 medal now....

China - 32
USA - 31

[mynameisjim]

One of the Chinese girls has a missing tooth where her baby tooth fell out and a regular tooth hasn't grown in yet. 16 year old girls don't have that problem so I would say she's quite a bit younger.

I do think there is something to the fact that the stadium officials made the American girl wait 15 minutes before doing her balance beam act. In football you call a time out before a game deciding field goal to "ice" the kicker, I think they did the same thing here. Plus, I read the American girl was known in those circles to have problems with choking under pressure so the Chinese may have known they had that option if things got close. I wouldn't put that past the Chinese officials nor would I put the fact that they forged the documents to use younger girls which most coaches seem to agree perform better under pressure.

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

I wouldn't put that past the Chinese officials nor would I put the fact that they forged the documents...

All true but let's be honest, the Chinese aren't the only ones that have cheated in the Olympics. Cheating should practically be it's own event, gold medals and all.

Of course, my arguments were mostly meant to be tongue-in-cheek - yes, clearly they look younger from our western POV. The real point is all these "investigations" the ridiculous news media is getting into are only happening because the Chinese won gold and the Americans didn't. (And if you listen to the NBC's coverage you can pick out many more examples of this type of attitude.)

[Matt 26z]

It's not just the US media. The first person to come right out and say it was Bella Caroli just after the competition. I would think that if he says it, it's probably true.

[mynameisjim]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

All true but let's be honest, the Chinese aren't the only ones that have cheated in the Olympics. Cheating should practically be it's own event, gold medals and all.

Of course, my arguments were mostly meant to be tongue-in-cheek - yes, clearly they look younger from our western POV. The real point is all these "investigations" the ridiculous news media is getting into are only happening because the Chinese won gold and the Americans didn't. (And if you listen to the NBC's coverage you can pick out many more examples of this type of attitude.)

If they push it too far, they will come out looking like sore losers. I think the girls were underage, but like you said, they should just let it go. Plus, if we piss them off they'll just poison more children's toys and dog food to get back at us.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

1) One of the girls is only 68 pounds. American girls they say average 100 pounds at 16. What they fail to mention is that on average, Americans weigh more than Chinese people, in fact more than everyone, as the most obese country in the world.

Wrong. Australia is the fattest.

[D Ghost]

yeah i heard about this, what the hell is going on?

[RP Fade]

I was actually watching the gymnastics and I thought she LOOKS like she's 12.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedi....27458-mid.jpg

[AnniKN]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

One of the Chinese girls has a missing tooth where her baby tooth fell out and a regular tooth hasn't grown in yet. 16 year old girls don't have that problem so I would say she's quite a bit younger.

I lost that particular tooth at 9, they wouldn't stretch it that much... I wouldn't put it past them, but they have millions of girls to choose from. I think that tooth might be just crooked or broken

[sltr]

the politics of international gymnastic competition has a long and storied past.

this is nothng new if you follow the sport.

[pocketkangaroo]

There is more to the story. A few international newspapers actually found the girls real ages on various websites and publications a couple months back. It wasn't all done by looks, there was some hard evidence to back it up. It also isn't a new claim.

I don't really give a shit about it, but there is no way in hell a couple of those girls were 16. There was one that I doubt was even 14.

It's still pretty silly when you think about it. China is more worried about winning a gold medal in gymnastics than having their own citizens make more than 30 cents a day. Just fucked up priorities if you ask me.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Cheating should practically be it's own event, gold medals and all.

Amen brother. I would actually watch it then!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

There is more to the story. A few international newspapers actually found the girls real ages on various websites and publications a couple months back. It wasn't all done by looks, there was some hard evidence to back it up. It also isn't a new claim.

I don't really give a shit about it, but there is no way in hell a couple of those girls were 16. There was one that I doubt was even 14.

It's still pretty silly when you think about it. China is more worried about winning a gold medal in gymnastics than having their own citizens make more than 30 cents a day. Just fucked up priorities if you ask me.

It's the typical communist motto.. think you are fooling the world when everyone knows you are full of shit. They always think if they win things like gold metals that it means they are a "real" world power. USSR was the same way back in it's heyday.

Look at North Korea.. their capitol has huge multi lane roads that are all empty and high rise buildings that are all there for show because they are empty inside. It's all about the show and thinking they are fooling the world.

The girls are defiantly under age.

[tranza]

I've heard about that! The girls seems to be really young, but I think it's just that!

[Holly]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Of course, they may not be 16 after all, China has used an underage girl before in competition. But really, would anyone even care if they didn't crush the Americans and take the gold?

I would imagine that every gymnast, parent, and coach that had worked their ass off for years and years to get to that point, would care. No matter where they were from or how they placed.

[kmanrox]

me, personally, have no problem with chinese girls being underage!

[CDSmith]

Wait, 16 and up girls from the USA got their asses handed to them by a pack of 12 yr olds? The embarassment must be devastating.

You'd think they would want to keep that quiet. :D

[selena]

I do think they look pretty young, but with their petite stature, it's really hard to tell.

I do have to say that I am swayed in my thoughts that they might be underage by the whole deal of the lip synching girl. To me, that situation was bizzare.

[Holly]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Wait, 16 and up girls from the USA got their asses handed to them by a pack of 12 yr olds? The embarassment must be devastating.

You'd think they would want to keep that quiet. :D

Dear, sweet CD,

Since you are Canadian, I realize that Olympic sports and competition are confusing, so I will share with you a special secret. As we get older, our friend Mother Nature makes it harder for us to do things like tumble and fly through the air. If you got better at gymnastic skills as your body developed, got larger, and increased in age (especially over 16), then I would be in Beijing bringing home the gold.

But don't fret- in a couple of years it will be Winter game time, and your people should do quite well at flailing around in the snow. I've even heard that "igloo building" may be included this time. Yea!!

[Dollarmansteve]

Have you seen the Japanese team? They all look 12 too. Asian people are small and young looking. Who says there's some global standard as to what a 16 year-old has to look like? They all have to be beefcakes like the american team??

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by Holly

I would imagine that every gymnast, parent, and coach that had worked their ass off for years and years to get to that point, would care. No matter where they were from or how they placed.

These were the same girls that were at previous events before the Olympics. Apparently no fuss was made then, so clearly the point is that why the story now - After they won the gold? There was plenty of time for other countries to complain or "investigate" before the Olympics and before they won the gold.

Wrong. Australia is the fattest.

Yes, you are correct. my mistake, America is 2nd.
So now even in being overweight you failed to win the gold

[TidalWave]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Yes, you are correct. my mistake, America is 2nd.
So now even in being overweight you failed to win the gold

Haha

[Why]

kevsh, america is NOT the fattest country in the world. australia is, if your gonna run your mouth, get your shit in order first. douche!

[opulence]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Wait, 16 and up girls from the USA got their asses handed to them by a pack of 12 yr olds? The embarassment must be devastating.

You'd think they would want to keep that quiet. :D

lol I was thinking the same

[sltr]

anyone who thinks those american girls should feel embarrassed for getting a silver in the Olympics simply does not understand the rewards of hard work and dedication needed to compete at that level.

those girls have that @ 16 years old. amazing in itself.


too bad that people have to denigrate Americans in such a way as this thread just because it's cool to do so @ gfy.

[geedub]

fuck the nazi games anyways

[Brad]

You forgot about the part where she was reported as being 13 only few months ago at a competition in China.

Link

[RP Fade]

hhaha..i was close..i guessed 12

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Holly

Dear, sweet CD,

Since you are Canadian, I realize that Olympic sports and competition are confusing, so I will share with you a special secret. As we get older, our friend Mother Nature makes it harder for us to do things like tumble and fly through the air. If you got better at gymnastic skills as your body developed, got larger, and increased in age (especially over 16), then I would be in Beijing bringing home the gold.

But don't fret- in a couple of years it will be Winter game time, and your people should do quite well at flailing around in the snow. I've even heard that "igloo building" may be included this time. Yea!!

I see my little joke tweaked your anger gland. oopsie. :D


Igloo building you say? Yes, I think I heard about that. Canada should win gold in that event for sure.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Kevsh

So the Chinese win the team Gold in gymnastics and now there's new stories and investigative reports that some of the girls may be under 16 (the required age to compete).

Shawn Johnson just said in an interview that she is 15.

Nadia Comăneci was 14 when she won several golds in the 76 Olympics in Montreal.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

One of the Chinese girls has a missing tooth where her baby tooth fell out and a regular tooth hasn't grown in yet. 16 year old girls don't have that problem so I would say she's quite a bit younger.

I have missing tooth as well. they pulled it out when I was 11 and permanent never grew.
Does it make me 13?

[clickyoucutie]

Listen, in my personal opinion, the girls would not have won regardless of the underage Chinese competitors. They just did not do well at the last few events regardless of the underage Chinese girls. I do think 2 of the chinese girls are underage though. If they are 16, I'd be very surprised.

I think it's pretty moot to argue about at this point. There is no way to 100 percent prove they aren't 16. And i am still proud of our American girls, who won silver despite losing one of our best girls in a few events because she hurt her ankle right before the olympics started.

[mynameisjim]

Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

I have missing tooth as well. they pulled it out when I was 11 and permanent never grew.
Does it make me 13?

Not that fact alone, but if there were newspapers articles that stated you were 13 and you looked 13, then it would start to raise suspicion. Obviously if there was a smoking gun there would be no discussion.

But I agree there should be no shame on the American side. To have an Olympic medal at 16 years old is pretty damn good.

It makes me laugh how crazy people sometimes get with being number one. If you get a silver medal, it's thought of as a let down, if you are only a one-term President, you are thought of as somewhat of a failure. If you only write one hit song, you are thought of as somewhat of a failure, a one hit wonder.

In reality, achieving any of those things is an enormous accomplishment.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Sad time when I see people siding with Cheaters just to put America down.

Take your anti American shit and shove it in yer ass fuckface, hey infact why you here? GO find some other non american webmaster board ya shit sucker.

[rowan]

Just a couple of thoughts...

1) Asians tend to look younger, even when they're adults.

2) A very active lifestyle (eg training full time) tends to delay puberty. About the only thing that's developed on female teenage gymnasts are their arm and leg muscles...

[Phil]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Sad time when I see people siding with Cheaters just to put America down.

Take your anti American shit and shove it in yer ass fuckface, hey infact why you here? GO find some other non american webmaster board ya shit sucker.

retarded as usual.
is sucking men's cock for $20 patriotic?

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Sad time when I see people siding with Cheaters just to put America down.

Take your anti American shit and shove it in yer ass fuckface, hey infact why you here? GO find some other non american webmaster board ya shit sucker.

Put your flag-waving patriotic cock away fool, it's just a discussion. What, no one can criticize the US media without you going all George Bush "You're either with us er' agin' us" on everyone?

Chill.

[shekinah]

Asian, most likely Chinese girls look younger than their actual age, and that is fact.. If they cheated in the Olympics, then let their conscience decide.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Put your flag-waving patriotic cock away fool, it's just a discussion. What, no one can criticize the US media without you going all George Bush "You're either with us er' agin' us" on everyone?

Chill.

All you fucktards do is spew cum bleeding Anti American shit. How about you go put down yer own cuntry.
All I need do is look at a name in a new thread and know its some Anti American crap its always same puss fuckers talkin shit.

STFU already.
We got it. America is shit and you out of country folk are always right.

You rather side with a country the puts underage children into world events and say America is shit some how when we were not even the ones that did it.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Some for sure spinners in that group!!!

I would do them all...um, I mean like in 2 to 8 years, after they turn 18...

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