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Old 08-13-2008, 10:29 AM   #1
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Say Hello to Iran's ass kicking, and Goodbye to the slight recovery in the economy!

With those battle groups moving into place, it's pretty much a for sure thing now. Get ready for another economic downturn if the U.S. starts to whoopin on Iran with France and Britain.

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With those battle groups moving into place, it's pretty much a for sure thing now. Get ready for another economic downturn if the U.S. starts to whoopin on Iran with France and Britain.


shit , say it aint so, GW wont rest till there is WW 3 Fucking Idiot
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Yes, and we all will hope against it. We're going the wrong way. We're supposed to be leaving that fucking region. Fuck!
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I think it more likely they are there to open the Strait of Hormuz in the case of an Israeli strike and subsequent closing of the Strait by Iran
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:40 AM   #7
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I think it more likely they are there to open the Strait of Hormuz in the case of an Israeli strike and subsequent closing of the Strait by Iran
thats what we're hoping on too. but they could be using that to move everyone in then unleash an ass whooping on Iran. it's been a long time coming. Iran isn't on the best terms with lots of countries with power so its kinds like the trouble making bully getting his ass kicked by the varsity football teams defensive line. no ones gonna try to stop it and something small could escalate quickly.
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With those battle groups moving into place, it's pretty much a for sure thing now. Get ready for another economic downturn if the U.S. starts to whoopin on Iran with France and Britain.

just started reading about this now.. scary
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Don't worry, nothing will happen with Iran.
The moment the US decides to attack Iran, Israel will join in. Then Palestine will fuck with Israel which means the US will need to help them out. It will become a 4 front war and then Russia will need to come help Iran.

That will = massive fail. No one will fire the first round.
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shit , say it aint so, GW wont rest till there is WW 3 Fucking Idiot
Why is it all Bush's doing if France is also involved? They can hardly be accused of consistently backing the US. Perhaps you should be upset with Sarkozy as well?
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Don't worry, nothing will happen with Iran.
The moment the US decides to attack Iran, Israel will join in. Then Palestine will fuck with Israel which means the US will need to help them out. It will become a 4 front war and then Russia will need to come help Iran.

That will = massive fail. No one will fire the first round.
OR, could this be brinksmanship politics, to have Russia rethink their policy in Georgia ?
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OR, could this be brinksmanship politics, to have Russia rethink their policy in Georgia ?
Yup, entirely possible.
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Why is it all Bush's doing if France is also involved? They can hardly be accused of consistently backing the US. Perhaps you should be upset with Sarkozy as well?
OK, OK... I'm upset with Sarkozy as well................ Happy ?
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With those battle groups moving into place, it's pretty much a for sure thing now. Get ready for another economic downturn if the U.S. starts to whoopin on Iran with France and Britain.

Iran will be cracked, but they will make few strong "shots" in nearbay countries...
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My prediction: The US is headed for a deep, real, no shit DEPRESSION and after a bunch of fuck fuck games with the middle east and Russia for the next year or two, a MAJOR attack (by them or "them") will drive the US full force into the only thing that can really rescue the economy for the long term - a World War.

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August 12, 2008

The Naval Update Map shows an approximation of the current locations of U.S. Carrier Strike Groups (CSGs) and Expeditionary Strike Groups (ESGs), the keys to U.S. dominance of the world?s oceans. A CSG is centered on an aircraft carrier, which projects U.S. naval and air power and supports a carrier air wing. An ESG is centered on a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), a heavily reinforced and mobile battalion of Marines. Each is equipped with a significant offensive strike capability.

The map is updated weekly, based on available open-source information.

Stratfor?s weekly U.S. Naval Update, which is usually published every Wednesday, has been released early this week in response to a number of inquiries from our readers.

After our Aug. 6 Update, the Kuwait Times published a story ? since widely circulated ? that the U.S. Navy was surging multiple carriers to the Gulf. The U.S. Navy has already denied this report.

As the Aug. 6 Update showed, the U.S. carrier fleet was in one of its most relaxed postures, with a single carrier ? the Lincoln ? in 5th Fleet, and a single carrier ? the Reagan ? in 7th Fleet near Japan. The rest of the ?armada? was operating fairly close to the U.S. East or West Coast.

According to the U.S. Navy, on Aug. 12 the only carriers currently under way are the Lincoln and the Reagan.

The Lincoln began its current deployment on March 13, and the Reagan may replace it in the 5th Fleet (the Reagan began its deployment on May 19). It is not uncommon for these carriers to train together during a handover, but Washington has not chosen to maintain two carriers in the region since 2007.

However, the U.S. Navy adopted the Fleet Response Plan (FRP) in 2003 in order to maximize the readiness of its carrier fleet to ensure this very capability at all times. While the traditional six-month deployments continue, the FRP places greater emphasis on ensuring that employable carriers are in a state of surge readiness ? that is, they can be deployed within 30 days. As such, it is not unusual to see carriers conduct qualifications at sea even when they are not about to be deployed.

In sum, a surge of three carriers to the 5th Fleet would indeed be a noteworthy event, but there is not yet credible reason for concern based on the information available about the disposition of the U.S. Fleet. However, should we see the Reagan transit the Strait of Malacca and another carrier transit the Strait of Gibraltar, we will certainly have more to say at that point.

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/u_s...ap_aug_12_2008
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we should have attacked Iran on the first day of the olympics and then looked at russia and been all like

"yo man... what? sup? you got something to say about this shit you tiny broke country, need your pipeline and don't want NATO at your back door, invading during the olympics bitches!"

and they would be all like

"see, ya'll muthafuckas got it all twisted. we just be protectin our homeboys who was keepin the peace n' shit"

and we would be all like

"man, i ain't even tryin to hear dat bullshit. it took your lyin ass months to plan out this buhllshit. anyway... why don't you broke down bitches just worry about your own shit you got goin' on... while we be handlin' our bidness"

then Putin would jump in

"sup GMan?!?!"

Bush would be all like

"uh hello there my good friend Vladeemeer Pewtin, missed you at the ranch. we had tacos for lunch. you like tacos."


Russian president would jump in

"what the fucks wit you fools?! i'm standin right here... i'm president of russia, ya'all motherfuckas better recognize and start showin' me some respect"

everyone would laugh together, wink.... keep laughing

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"sure. ok, Mr guy who thinks he's 'President' of Russia"

then they would all be holdin press conferences talking about how they be keepin the other motherfuckers in check while they be doin what they be doin
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OK, OK... I'm upset with Sarkozy as well................ Happy ?
The point is that this maneuver cannot be blamed on Bush or the US when they have backing from Britain and France. Perhaps there is a reason why the feel this is necessary? Perhaps France is legitimately concerned about the consequences of the Iranians going nuclear? Or are Brown and Sarkozy also part of the Bushhitler neo-con conspiracy?
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The point is that this maneuver cannot be blamed on Bush or the US when they have backing from Britain and France. Perhaps there is a reason why the feel this is necessary? Perhaps France is legitimately concerned about the consequences of the Iranians going nuclear? Or are Brown and Sarkozy also part of the Bushhitler neo-con conspiracy?
Bush, Brown, Sarkozy, are all part of the same "BRO" club, which is far above what we can ever hope to get to. What makes it OK for some countries to have access to nuclear power and not others ?Yeah, yeah, I know WMD.......they are the devil etc etc.... Sorry, but I dont buy all the bullshit propaganda that is spread by the supposed saviours of our world.
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The point is that this maneuver cannot be blamed on Bush or the US when they have backing from Britain and France. Perhaps there is a reason why the feel this is necessary? Perhaps France is legitimately concerned about the consequences of the Iranians going nuclear? Or are Brown and Sarkozy also part of the Bushhitler neo-con conspiracy?
Sarkozy has always been a neo-con Zionist lover.
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Can someone link to a credible source that this is happening? I can't find a credible source anywhere.
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Can someone link to a credible source that this is happening? I can't find a credible source anywhere.
I'm pretty sure there isn't one. There's Debka vs. Stratfor basically. Also you can read about Operation Brimstone but it is not clear those ships are actually headed to the Persian Gulf.
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With those battle groups moving into place, it's pretty much a for sure thing now. Get ready for another economic downturn if the U.S. starts to whoopin on Iran with France and Britain.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!
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I'm pretty sure there isn't one. There's Debka vs. Stratfor basically. Also you can read about Operation Brimstone but it is not clear those ships are actually headed to the Persian Gulf.
dont know much about Stratfor, but i can definitely tell you that Debka is completely unreliable !
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Can someone link to a credible source that this is happening? I can't find a credible source anywhere.
google is your friend my friend. theres tons of news on this build up all over cnn and the sort now too.

condoleeza rice is live on cnn right now throwing down the hammer.

she's cursing about russia though. but this troop movement is part of the whole thing.

ouch.
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NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!
yah war on top of war will be great for the economy.




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google is your friend my friend. theres tons of news on this build up all over cnn and the sort now too.

condoleeza rice is live on cnn right now throwing down the hammer.

she's cursing about russia though. but this troop movement is part of the whole thing.

ouch.
I looked on google and yahoo - there is no reliable source for this info.
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I doubt America would do an invasion of Iran but I would not rule out the leveling of Iranian military targets and it's nuke facilities. THey aint building nukes if they are removed militarily with precision and thats something the American Military is very capable of.

It can be done within a few days of bombing.
This would set back the Iranian Military by 20 years or more and essentially set the nuke research back to zero.
Sounds like a good plan to me.

LIke I said. Putin and Bush had a hot dog together in CHina and simply made a trade.

Georgia Autonomous region for Iran. It's a Done deal.
The fuck with what NATO says thier posturing enough and should we go the way NATO say's Iran will be blowing up Isreal or continue fomenting terrorist strikes on them and Iraq.

Problem solved over a hotdog.

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I doubt America would do an invasion of Iran but I would not rule out the leveling of Iranian military targets and it's nuke facilities. THey aint building nukes if they are removed militarily with precision and thats something the American Military is very capable of.

It can be done within a few days of bombing.
This would set back the Iranian Military by 20 years or more and essentially set the nuke research back to zero.
Sounds like a good plan to me.
Why do it if Israel is willing?
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Why do it if Israel is willing?
If Israel does it, Iran has the ability to level it. Israel = USA in the middle east. The US would lose all it has invested in Israel and it would be all for not. We'd have to clean up for them and start over.

That's why no one will attack Iran. Not us or anyone else. It's too costly.
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Why do it if Israel is willing?
NO Isreal just needs to "Defend" itself from some Iranian attack attack or Isreal just needs to hit a nuke facility in Iran for this to kick off right.

THe way it is looking, Isreal is prepared to go in Iran and hit a nuke facility after that a counter by Iran to Isreal and during that brief period America socks the shit out of Iran.

It works. It sounds like flawless plan to me. Russia won't be interersted in saying shit they got Georgia without retribution or anythign and that sounds like it was planned well before hand.
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Why do it if Israel is willing?
Because the whole mid east will rise up if Isreal strikes..
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If Israel does it, Iran has the ability to level it. Israel = USA in the middle east. The US would lose all it has invested in Israel and it would be all for not. We'd have to clean up for them and start over.

That's why no one will attack Iran. Not us or anyone else. It's too costly.
"Level Israel" with what? Katyushas?

Israel hit Iraq. Israel hit Syria. Don't see any reason why Israel wouldn't hit Iran.
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go to 1 min and 40 seconds and you will see why it will suck for the states
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Because the whole mid east will rise up if Isreal strikes..
Umm.. Iran is the only problem in the Middle East.
What other countries in the middle East got shit to say?
There is nothing they would do, they got great deals with America and Europe over 80% of them are making mad amounts of money with the world in Oil and kicking back feigning distress about Iraq.

Iraq is cool now and getting in a siutation where Iraqi's are getting capable of policing there own country. Iraq is over done and a sealed deal.

Egypt aint got shit to say they do not even like Hamma's and the palestinians.
Syria is to busy making building and commercial centers to give a shit, all the Middle Eastern COuntries are quite content with the situation as they should be.

Thier backyard is now clean of hostile Iraqi's.

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Old 08-13-2008, 01:05 PM   #40
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Because the whole mid east will rise up if Isreal strikes..
Israel bombed a facility in Syria just last September.
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:18 PM   #41
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You will all thank W when he starts Armageddon...
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My prediction: The US is headed for a deep, real, no shit DEPRESSION and after a bunch of fuck fuck games with the middle east and Russia for the next year or two, a MAJOR attack (by them or "them") will drive the US full force into the only thing that can really rescue the economy for the long term - a World War.

When there's blood in the streets, buy real estate.
Actually when we were more of a industrial economy a war was good thing. Now it wont mean shit, what 100 billion went to private enterprise for the iraq war and it was hasnt done shit for the economy.
China already said hitting Iran is a very bad idea. I don't think that was a suggestion. If this does happen plan on a draft.Also plan on paying more in taxes no matter who is president.
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Actually when we were more of a industrial economy a war was good thing. Now it wont mean shit, what 100 billion went to private enterprise for the iraq war and it was hasnt done shit for the economy.
China already said hitting Iran is a very bad idea. I don't think that was a suggestion. If this does happen plan on a draft.Also plan on paying more in taxes no matter who is president.
Plan on me taking an assload of money under the table then.

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Old 08-13-2008, 02:00 PM   #44
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I think it more likely they are there to open the Strait of Hormuz in the case of an Israeli strike and subsequent closing of the Strait by Iran
Why, so we can smack down Iran's entire army in a week?

Again?
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Old 08-13-2008, 02:54 PM   #45
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we should have attacked Iran on the first day of the olympics and then looked at russia and been all like

"yo man... what? sup? you got something to say about this shit you tiny broke country, need your pipeline and don't want NATO at your back door, invading during the olympics bitches!"

and they would be all like

"see, ya'll muthafuckas got it all twisted. we just be protectin our homeboys who was keepin the peace n' shit"

and we would be all like

"man, i ain't even tryin to hear dat bullshit. it took your lyin ass months to plan out this buhllshit. anyway... why don't you broke down bitches just worry about your own shit you got goin' on... while we be handlin' our bidness"

then Putin would jump in

"sup GMan?!?!"

Bush would be all like

"uh hello there my good friend Vladeemeer Pewtin, missed you at the ranch. we had tacos for lunch. you like tacos."


Russian president would jump in

"what the fucks wit you fools?! i'm standin right here... i'm president of russia, ya'all motherfuckas better recognize and start showin' me some respect"

everyone would laugh together, wink.... keep laughing

and then bush would be like

"sure. ok, Mr guy who thinks he's 'President' of Russia"

then they would all be holdin press conferences talking about how they be keepin the other motherfuckers in check while they be doin what they be doin
That was fucking brilliant! hahahaha.
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Old 08-13-2008, 09:31 PM   #46
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lost iraq , lost afghanistan, lost vietnam , i dont think iran is too worried.
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You are witnessing the pretext to WWIII.

However you look at it, this is a blockade and there's plenty of historical evidence showing that naval blockades are a pretext to an attack. Lookup the Union naval blockade of the South in the War of Succession, and the British blockades during the War of 1812,

The Georgian/Russian conflict may simply be a US/Israeli/NATO ploy to keep Russia occupied while the Roosevelt carrier strike force moves into place. Meanwhile, the Senate signs off on SR 580, and the US officially sets off on its third undeclared, unjust, and preemptive war of the decade.

For 3 weeks beginning July 15th, 1650 US troops trained Georgian troops and ironically very shortly after they left Georgia attacks Osettia.. Also of interest is that close to 1,000 Israeli military advisors have been preparing Georgia for war, and Israel has been supplying Georgia with weapons and intelligence systems.

Odd that this operation is called brimstone which is analogous with divine wrath or hell. Anyone ever read revelations? God unleashed fire and brimstone to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
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With those battle groups moving into place, it's pretty much a for sure thing now. Get ready for another economic downturn if the U.S. starts to whoopin on Iran with France and Britain.

LOL...I always thought war was good for the economy
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LOL...I always thought war was good for the economy
when we were an industrial economy it was.We aint no more.
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