Paypal Holding Payments - GoFuckYourself.com

Bird · 08-12-2008, 07:52 PM

This is new. Paypal now holds payments till buyer receives goods or shipping has been confirmed. I personally like this protection but it is an inconvenience that you can't use that payment to pay for shipping. Now shipping expenses are out of pocket while you wait for the funds to be released.

PayPal and eBay are working together to make payments for eBay items even safer. Because we want both buyers and sellers to feel confident about sending and receiving payments through PayPal, we may temporarily hold payments for items sold on eBay.

Make sure to ship the item right away, so you'll have access to the funds sooner. We?ll release the hold in 21 days unless you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction subject to the hold. We may release the hold earlier if either of the following occurs:

* The buyer leaves you positive feedback on eBay.
* We confirm that the item was delivered.* We can confirm delivery if you ship the item with USPS, FedEx, or UPS and either use PayPal shipping labels or upload tracking information from the transaction details page. This applies to transactions within the United States.

Additional hold period

If you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction subject to the hold, we may hold the payment until the problem is resolved.

marketsmart · 08-12-2008, 07:55 PM

thats bullshit... its just a way to profit on my money by "using" it for 21 days..

i bet that even if buyer sends positive feedback, there will still be at least a few business days before funds get released...

selena · 08-12-2008, 07:58 PM

I ship stuff out on a near-daily basis, and have never had paypal hold funds.

Bird · 08-12-2008, 07:58 PM

Fuck I know...I wonder what the interest is on total they hold for those days.

TyroneGoldberg · 08-12-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

thats bullshit... its just a way to profit on my money by "using" it for 21 days..

Times are getting hard.

Spunky · 08-12-2008, 08:03 PM

That's great news.I buy a ton of stuff off Ebay.great for buyers

Marcus Aurelius · 08-12-2008, 08:05 PM

this doesn't go in effect until October right? thats what i'm seeing but I could be wrong.

marketsmart · 08-12-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

That's great news.I buy a ton of stuff off Ebay.great for buyers

def great for buyers.. i have never gotton ripped off buying on ebay, so i cant really relate to a 21 day hold and as a seller on ebay it really pisses me off...

spacedog · 08-12-2008, 08:12 PM

I like the idea of it as a buyer, but don't like it as a seller

moeloubani · 08-12-2008, 08:31 PM

still can ship boxes with rocks instead of the actual item

Belinda · 08-12-2008, 08:37 PM

I just sold my first item on Ebay and what a pain in the ass it is turning out to be. They want all this documentation from me then i sent it and now they are saying to re-send it and untill they get everything they are putting my account with limited access. They wanna make sure i am who i say I am and all but geez.

Iron Fist · 08-12-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

still can ship boxes with rocks instead of the actual item

Sure... soon as you get neg feedback or chargeback, the moneys gone - so whats the point, besides, aren't you out of pocket for shipping until the funds clear?

Ship all the rocks you want, you'll be fucking yourself over in the process under this new scheme.

Bird · 08-12-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCQ

this doesn't go in effect until October right? thats what i'm seeing but I could be wrong.

I didn't read that anywhere. They have a hold on mine, maybe because i am shipping to Canada and maybe it is only the US for October.

RobAlbaugh · 08-12-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bird

This is new. Paypal now holds payments till buyer receives goods or shipping has been confirmed. I personally like this protection but it is an inconvenience that you can't use that payment to pay for shipping. Now shipping expenses are out of pocket while you wait for the funds to be released.

PayPal and eBay are working together to make payments for eBay items even safer. Because we want both buyers and sellers to feel confident about sending and receiving payments through PayPal, we may temporarily hold payments for items sold on eBay.

Make sure to ship the item right away, so you'll have access to the funds sooner. We?ll release the hold in 21 days unless you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction subject to the hold. We may release the hold earlier if either of the following occurs:

* The buyer leaves you positive feedback on eBay.
* We confirm that the item was delivered.* We can confirm delivery if you ship the item with USPS, FedEx, or UPS and either use PayPal shipping labels or upload tracking information from the transaction details page. This applies to transactions within the United States.

Additional hold period

If you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction subject to the hold, we may hold the payment until the problem is resolved.

Ok, so now we are personal credit companies who extend our customer credit for 21 days...FUCK PAYPAL AND EBAY!

RobAlbaugh · 08-12-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

def great for buyers.. i have never gotton ripped off buying on ebay, so i cant really relate to a 21 day hold and as a seller on ebay it really pisses me off...

Funny story. I sold a GL2 to a guy on Ebay a couple years ago. He sends me the paypal after the auction. I ship the camera. The asshole receives it. I email him to make sure it arrived ok. He gives me this long email about how awesome the camera is. Two days later, I get a refund request from PayPal saying the asshole received the package but that the camera was damaged. So instead of even asking me, they credit the fucker back his money. Meanwhile he has my camera. After a couple more emails, the fucker says if I want the camera back, I am going to have to pay shipping. I was pissed. So I grudgingly agreed to pay $100 for overnight shipping back. The fuckhead ships me back a box of rocks. When I email EBay and complain, they say he proved he shipped the package back. I explain to them what he actually shipped back, they suggested I file a lawsuit in my local court. Now how the fuck am I supposed to serve this asshole when he lives in California?

Turns out later, this guy had done this several times to other vid cam owners under different names. EBay refused to do anything and PayPal kept saying it was an EBay issue. So fuck them both.

rowan · 08-12-2008, 11:04 PM

The reigns are tightening... don't forget that ebay Australia was the test bed for forcing everyone to use Paypal to pay for items (apart from some cash on delivery exceptions such as cars). That change has been blocked by the govt for the moment.

Zorgman · 08-12-2008, 11:18 PM

I started getting paypal payments get put on hold this week. Seems not by the buyer, but by paypal themselves or their system. The funds are "on hold" untill this matter is cleared. But there is no "matter", it's just another way to control us.

Babaganoosh · 08-12-2008, 11:21 PM

Personally I am glad to see this. This will help with slow shippers. I've had to email people repeatedly to get an item that I won and paid for actually shipped. Now there is some incentive to get that shit in the mail ASAP.

Marcus Aurelius · 08-12-2008, 11:23 PM

I would agree to this policy as long as shipping fees are separated and not withheld. Keep the sale price, but release the shipping fees so the item can be shipped without coming out of pocket for 21 days. The costs of shipping being what it is, this could actually hurt ebay and you'll see more side deals being made on items. Less buy it nows, transaction fees, etc.

plsureking · 08-12-2008, 11:31 PM

is this a mainstream board now?

AdultMovies.bz · 08-13-2008, 02:38 AM

that sucks ass... and here in Australia you can't even sell on ebay without using paypal, monopoly much?

08-12-2008, 07:52 PM	#1
Bird Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stockton Posts: 4,365	Paypal Holding Payments This is new. Paypal now holds payments till buyer receives goods or shipping has been confirmed. I personally like this protection but it is an inconvenience that you can't use that payment to pay for shipping. Now shipping expenses are out of pocket while you wait for the funds to be released. PayPal and eBay are working together to make payments for eBay items even safer. Because we want both buyers and sellers to feel confident about sending and receiving payments through PayPal, we may temporarily hold payments for items sold on eBay. Make sure to ship the item right away, so you'll have access to the funds sooner. We?ll release the hold in 21 days unless you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction subject to the hold. We may release the hold earlier if either of the following occurs: * The buyer leaves you positive feedback on eBay. * We confirm that the item was delivered.* We can confirm delivery if you ship the item with USPS, FedEx, or UPS and either use PayPal shipping labels or upload tracking information from the transaction details page. This applies to transactions within the United States. Additional hold period If you receive a dispute, claim, chargeback, or reversal on the transaction subject to the hold, we may hold the payment until the problem is resolved. __________________ ICQ:268731675

08-12-2008, 07:58 PM	#3
selena Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On The Edge Posts: 7,994	I ship stuff out on a near-daily basis, and have never had paypal hold funds. __________________ ~ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art ~The MetArt Network ~ selena.delgado9

08-12-2008, 07:58 PM	#4
Bird Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stockton Posts: 4,365	Fuck I know...I wonder what the interest is on total they hold for those days. __________________ ICQ:268731675

08-12-2008, 08:03 PM	#6
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,947	That's great news.I buy a ton of stuff off Ebay.great for buyers __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

08-12-2008, 08:37 PM	#11
Belinda NubilesCash.com Manager Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NorCal Posts: 4,365	I just sold my first item on Ebay and what a pain in the ass it is turning out to be. They want all this documentation from me then i sent it and now they are saying to re-send it and untill they get everything they are putting my account with limited access. They wanna make sure i am who i say I am and all but geez. __________________ NEW SITES FROM NUBILESCASH.COM MomLover.com, FamilySwap.xxx Skype- belindam81 Email: [email protected]

08-12-2008, 07:55 PM	#2
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	thats bullshit... its just a way to profit on my money by "using" it for 21 days.. i bet that even if buyer sends positive feedback, there will still be at least a few business days before funds get released...

08-12-2008, 08:05 PM	#7
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	this doesn't go in effect until October right? thats what i'm seeing but I could be wrong.

08-12-2008, 08:12 PM	#9
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	I like the idea of it as a buyer, but don't like it as a seller

08-12-2008, 08:31 PM	#10
moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	still can ship boxes with rocks instead of the actual item

08-12-2008, 11:04 PM	#16
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	The reigns are tightening... don't forget that ebay Australia was the test bed for forcing everyone to use Paypal to pay for items (apart from some cash on delivery exceptions such as cars). That change has been blocked by the govt for the moment.

08-12-2008, 11:18 PM	#17
Zorgman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 6,103	I started getting paypal payments get put on hold this week. Seems not by the buyer, but by paypal themselves or their system. The funds are "on hold" untill this matter is cleared. But there is no "matter", it's just another way to control us. __________________ ---

08-12-2008, 11:21 PM	#18
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	Personally I am glad to see this. This will help with slow shippers. I've had to email people repeatedly to get an item that I won and paid for actually shipped. Now there is some incentive to get that shit in the mail ASAP. __________________ I like pie.

08-12-2008, 11:23 PM	#19
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	I would agree to this policy as long as shipping fees are separated and not withheld. Keep the sale price, but release the shipping fees so the item can be shipped without coming out of pocket for 21 days. The costs of shipping being what it is, this could actually hurt ebay and you'll see more side deals being made on items. Less buy it nows, transaction fees, etc. Last edited by Marcus Aurelius; 08-12-2008 at 11:24 PM..

08-12-2008, 11:31 PM	#20
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: PORNCMS.com Posts: 4,790	is this a mainstream board now? __________________ #

08-13-2008, 02:38 AM	#21
AdultMovies.bz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Your Mum's House Posts: 1,036	that sucks ass... and here in Australia you can't even sell on ebay without using paypal, monopoly much? __________________ $8.35 High-Usage Adult Hosting: 510GB Storage + 5010GB Bandwidth + SQL + SSL + Free Domain With Whois Privacy. Use this Coupon Code for extra 25GB Storage Space when you join: 25freegb