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kut.com - is it worth 65k?????
Ok, I'm looking at purchasing a domain to add to my network, and I', in negotiations to buy kut.com. It received over 33k uniques monthly, over 1k uniques daily. Here's the kicker, over 60% of the traffic comes from India, and 22+ percent from Brazil.
Now I'm asking myself how the hell can I make money from this kind of traffic? I know they are not great Internet commerce countries right now, but their Internet usage and overall people buying power is probably where the USA was in the 1950's and Internet wise where the USA was in 1992. I'd like some honest input on the future of this domain should I buy it, and what you think it could be used for? I was thinking of making a Cutting Tools splash page and sell ads to companies who have cutting tool businesses. Nothing set yet and I'm still negotiating on the price. Thanks for all feedback guys ![]()
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65k is lots bro... that traffic is useless..
i would probably pay $15-20k max for it.. not $65k Kut doesnt mean shit
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Indeed it doesn't. It means "pussy", in Dutch.
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They still haven't figured out what those are used for, though.
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You better have a solid idea ready if you through $65k, it's not gonna earn itself that's for sure.
1k/day traffic equals shit... however the domain is pretty nice and does seem to hold a generic value in india. as suggested $15-20k... but then again I have no clue on domains.
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Well, it is one of the last 3 letter domains available under 6 figures that I've found. I would think there's a long term profit potential somewhere down the line, other than adult. I'm looking more non-adult at the moment possibly. Still waiting to find out their Sedo parking revenue.
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You're better off finding a better value domain and using the rest to build upon it.
For example your money is better spent at $5,000 for a domain and $60,000 for marketing/development. .
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well if you think its a good deal go ahead and buy it.. but those people selling useless 3 letter domains like JOA.com for 6 figs are on good crack.. Unless you get lucky and find a new company and thats the acronym.
id make more money if i spend $10 on a domain, and $99,990 on marketing.. Than buying a no meaning 3 letter domain for $100,000
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Think about this: You dump $60k in 2008, then say in 7yrs you sell for $120k Thats a 100% return in 7yrs.. pretty fucking crappy if you ask me.. Give me $60k, ill build a site and in 7yrs i woulda made $600,000 from that site. make sense?
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It does not have MEAN anything when viewed as a word.
But what companies exist with the initials K U T. They will pay BIG for that.
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Yeah, you just never know. I owned ReeceDesign.com andnever really used it, it just forwarded to reecemarketing.com. then one day I received an email from reece.com wanting to buy reecedesign.com since "Reece Design" was a name of a department they owned. i ended up agreeing to $5,000. I paid maybe 30 bucks for it over 3 years of domain fee's. not too bad.
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I'll sell you kutten.nl for 50K
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You seem to be oblivious of the subtle difference between "making an investment" and "starting up an entire business". Time is money. Repeat that line in your head a few dozen times. Maybe it will sink in. Let's say the site that has made you $600k took 20 hrs/week to create and maintain. Valuing your time at $100/hr, you've invested $60k up front, and an additional $728k in work. That's a pretty shitty ROI ![]()
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No way! The traffic is of no value, I would say $10,000.00 to $20,000.00 and not one cent more cause you got to market that name and build a rep from scratch to capture a worthwhile market in U.S.A. Canada and Europe and Asia and that's going to take alot of time and money.
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oki bro whatever you say. i make lots of money and like i said before, i can USE $60k and turn it into at least 100k/yr for the next 6yrs, while he *MAYBE* turns his 60k into 120k if he is lucky.. By the way i dont work more than 2-3hrs a day. Also, domain biz just requires too much time. Why the fuck would i dump $60k and *HOPE* it turns into 100k in 10yrs.. I mean come on.. I have a friend in domain biz and he makes like $10k a month and i laugh cause i build/run sites and make his monthly income in 4-5 days.. so w/e
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Well I'm still undecided. heh
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I'm not saying this domain would be a good investment. Hell, it's worth $25k at most. However, the 100% return in 7 years you mentioned in the other post would be a good investment, if you could find it (try finding a bank that'll give you a 10%+ interest rate). Developing a site that makes $600k in 7 years with a $60k investment would only be a good investment if you have the time to do it - that is to say, if you want to turn that investment into a job.
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Don't do it. You're paying a speculative premium for the three letters. Three letters don't mean shit to anybody but domainers. You'll be stuck in the position where you have to find someone else willing to pay more than $65K in order to profit. How much more and how how long will you have to wait? Not worth it at all, IMHO You could find somebody tomorrow willing to pay $75K or you might go 10 years finding nobody willing to pay $50K for it. Its all BS speculation and finding the bigger fool in order to sell it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger_fool_theory
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Spend the 65K on poo instead...
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I bought a 10 letter domain last year for 27K.
.com's are good but it better if they are in english, short, context relevant & easy to remember for surfers. (unless you wanna use it for Dutch/Belgian traffic for KUT is a good name) |
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if you look at the sales charts for LLL.com's, that seems in-line or just a touch high, but not crazy imho for a pronounceable CVC.com
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yeah i do? i make money online and everyone keeps thinking i dont have a real job.. besides IF YOU READ WELL ull see i was saying how i wanted a "regular" job. Frankly im bored as heck staying at home all day.. Jesus.. ive been messing with internet since i was 13yrs old.lol I paid my way through private school at $40k/yr+ and I have a house/cars.. you can go fuck yourself :P
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people assume too much.. go back on my post history.. you'll see me asking how to invest $100k.. Or how i spent $20k on a dubai vacation..
assumption is a bad thing.. I know people who work 9-5 but still pull $xxx,xxx on the internet.. heh people are dumb DId you miss this post too? Originally Posted by xxweekxx View Post Entry level sucks ass.. I just cant imagine slaving away in school to graduate top of class, then get a job working 9-5 and making maybe $40k/yr ut 2yrs ago before mortgage took a shitter i was able to make that 40k in A MONTH sitting in front of my pc.. See why my mind is still fucked up? Once you get suckered into 9-5 you are screwed. yes you get paid but they own your life too My mortgage only made me $40k+/month consistently for over a year.. Not to talk of adult biz.. What you think i blew all that money? dumb fuck
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3 letter .com domains are not a dime a dozen. So even if right now it has no value for its traffic at some point it will be worth a lot of money.
Try to bargain it down, but if you have the 65K to spend and can hold on to the domain for a while or even develop some sort of hype site on it, go for it. |
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i never said i make 800k in this thread.lol wtf..i dont have to lie/brag on internet..wtf is point? i am BORED of being 22yr sitting on pc all day and making X100 than my friends... i wanted a regular job but pay sux so i said fuck it
if u must kno, i *used* to make 600k+ no too long ago. now its down to half that or so
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Get a boat and go sailing or go meet chicks or something...
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xxweekxx Life is good Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,530 Bro listen to me!! I bought my first car at 17.. Infiniti G35 COUPE FULLY LOADED with navigation, came out to $40,000 total. Unlike u, it didnt empty my bank account BUT if i could take it back i would.. Why? Because ive spent over $100k on that car, YES, 100K!! First insurance was running me $7k/yr in NJ, not to talk of people denting my bumper in parking lots and me coming out to find out my bumper is fucked, then having to spend like $2k to fix it(My insurance deductable is $2,000 so i might as well not go thru insurance) Ive had people ding my door, etc.. Besides, i get around 14MPG the way i drive, therefore it costs like $60 to fill up that 20 gallon tank.. And i have 60,000 miles. so divide ull get around 4000 gallons that ive used in gas over the years.. Multiply that and ive spent around $10k for gas over the years.. haha the maintenance is ridiculous.... recently just spent $2k for new break disc pads, rotors, etc.. not to talk of the services that run me like $1k or more depending.. Ive also lost 4 low profile tires to the fucking manholes in NJ, btw each of my tires are 19" and they cost around $300 I could go on and on.. I know ive spent over $100k on my car because i did taxes and i ordered bank statements dating back and i tallied it up, it came up to like $112,000.. RIDICULOUS>. So i would have saved that $100k if i went and bought like a toyota.. SO DONT GO BUY THIS CAR! if insurance doesnt kill u, gas will kill u, if gas doesnt kill u, maintenance will, if that doesnt kill u, dumbasses denting ur car will... DID I enjoy my car? YES do i love it now? YES.. Will i get another expensive car? Yea, but now im almost 22. save your money invest in some other shit.. i woulda been at least $50k richer now if i didnt buy this car.. $50k is a shit load of money.. OH YEAH when i bought the car i spent 6% on tax on top of the $40k, so do the math. ive also gotten numerous speeding and parking tickets which i didnt include maybe u should read all my posts first.. ive been VERY consistent and have no reason to lie
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I have a gf im loyal to and she works 9-5 too So basically im stuck at home watching movies/working out all day long.. Wanted to get 9-5 but it didnt make sense slaving away for $40k/yr.. Also felt like my degree was a waste. I spent $40k/yr tuition. graduated with 3.7 honors magna cum laude, student whos who in america, etc yet its all a waste?
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you crack me up. NEVER did i say the money is 100% consistent, nor does my friend make $10k CONSISTENTLY>. jesus.. the bottom line is on "AVERAGE" i make his income in a week.. If i make $30k or so a month, and he does around 8-10k, that works out to roughly me making his money in a week.. give or take.. Stop trying to prove to me i dont have any money.. Im the one that sees my bank account...lol i dont wanna brag bro.. Or do you want me to take a PIC OF MY CARS and put "GFY" on it? jesus christ people ... im "xxweekxx".. even if i convince u i have 500000000000 what good does that do me? are u gona blow me?lol You seem to have a hardon for me
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The only problem with this is there is an end of the road where escalation of value loses momentum and the threat of possible price correction comes forth. The greatest fool eventually takes the lose. It will not endlessly be flipped for profit. That much is a given.
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who cares about the traffic? the traffic is a minor consideration in this kind of purchase
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isnt kut 'pussy' or 'cunt' in dutch too?
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whatever you do, do not listen to gfyers for advice on what to do about purchasing any domain names. It is constant negativity. Buying that domain would be a solid investment if your looking to hold onto it for 4-6 years, period. Just in the past 2 years alone, 3 letter domains have jumped up in price quite nicely. I have seen shitty 3 letter domain names sell for more than 65k, at the end of the day the only person you can trust is yourself. |
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they are looking for orkut.com that is the exact ratio of people who use orkut.com
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I wouldnt do it even if I had the money to piss away.
65K can do alot of things, including making more money than that domains cost over 5 years if not longer. Unless of course it's just a speculative buy to sell at a higher price. Which I guess is viable.
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i just offered him 80k..
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Kit.com sold for $75,ooo last year
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