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Old 10-24-2002, 10:11 AM   #151
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Can you think of any "sensationalistic" reporters that fit this category?
I'll help. Weekly World News. National Enquirer.
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:12 AM   #152
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the indigo, only french media are not biased right?

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Dont worry about ControlThy, he is just cheese eating stupid french fuck
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:13 AM   #153
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i call it survival of the sexually fittest
White girls have tighter pussy. It's co-evolution. ;-)
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:14 AM   #154
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lol..funniest thing I have heard all morning. Thanks Colin!
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no, not another $10.00 a day euro-intellectual poking fun at me. how can I stand it.
I am not poking fun at you at all.
You are doing it all yourself and alot of people are enjoying it intensely.
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How do you know if it's biased or not when you believe it as soon as it's on CNN, a "serious" media?
Do I really have to explain this to you??

After a story is reported, a lot of things happen. Other news agencies interview witnesses and bystanders, people talk, things come to light, and the truth eventually surfaces. If that truth is widely different from what the original *reporter* or *newssource* told the world, then shit hits the fan pretty quick, and they take a shitstorm of flack and criticism. They lose credibility, something that no news agency wants. So they do their best to report things as they happened, or as they are happening. Period.


If you have a problem with this, then it's your problem.
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I am not poking fun at you at all.
You are doing it all yourself and alot of people are enjoying it intensely.
your family is looking over your shoulder?
don't let them convince you you're witty. real life would be a real letdown for ya.
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:18 AM   #158
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the indigo, only french media are not biased right?
Okay, since you are retarded, I'll explain it to you.

French media has more chance to be biased on french events than a US or african media.

US media has more chance to be biased on US events than a french or african media.

It's called third party objectivity.
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:21 AM   #160
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Dont worry about ControlThy, he is just cheese eating stupid french fuck
Bonjour Drew,

There is the use of vulgarity once again, not that I expected anything different from you.
Is that the last resort of a weak mind, a mind that has no power and knowledge left to defend itself?

Au revoir,

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Keywords here -- "other news agencies"...... as in, you think CNN is the only news agency in the US?? There are tons of different networks, newspapers, radio ect, all competing to get the scoop on everyone else. That very competition seems to keep things fairly honest, at least among the serious news media. I mean, if network A reports a story in a completely innacurate and biased way, and network B later reports the "real truth" showing Network A's innacuracies, that would make Network A look stupid, correct?



Yeah, National Enquirer is taken seriously by millions, or so I hear. Millions of foriegners that is. ha ha, they think that's what all N. Americans read and believe.
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Bah. In your example, it's not the camera that's lying, it's the idiot holding it being narrow and selective.
And as soon as you come up with a news camera that isn't operated by a human being, I'll concede the point.

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Why? Because, as I said already, reporters whose work is found to be consistently biased and slanted are simply regarded as big jokes after a while, not to be taken seriously.
Which planet you live on? Here on earth, Ann Coulters hysterical tirade against everyone to the left of Pat Buchanan, despite the fact it contains a bunch of slanderous half-truths itself, sat atop of the NY Times bestseller list for a few weeks.

More exhibits:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com

http://www.worldnetdaily.com

http://www.cwfa.org

Now, you might regard every one of those "news" organizations as big jokes, and you might not take them seriously, but believe me, there are more people than you want to think about who form their entire worldviews based upon that sort of "reporting."

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Old 10-24-2002, 10:26 AM   #164
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Do I really have to explain this to you??

After a story is reported, a lot of things happen. Other news agencies interview witnesses and bystanders, people talk, things come to light, and the truth eventually surfaces. If that truth is widely different from what the original *reporter* or *newssource* told the world, then shit hits the fan pretty quick, and they take a shitstorm of flack and criticism. They lose credibility, something that no news agency wants. So they do their best to report things as they happened, or as they are happening. Period.

If you have a problem with this, then it's your problem.
You believe that truth will show up on CNN?

"Sorry people, we lied to you"

Surf the net, listen to world news and you might get something different. But if only watch CNN and local papers, like most americans, you're biased. Come on, did you travel in your life? Go buy some newspapers around the world and read the headlines & editorials.
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:28 AM   #165
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your family is looking over your shoulder?
don't let them convince you you're witty. real life would be a real letdown for ya.
For an individual who represents the company and employer he works for like you do, it is rather entertaining that I get a lecture about wit and reality from you.

And yes, my family is sitting right beside me.
Posting on GFY is a family event and they all want to say "HI" to you.
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lol..funniest thing I have heard all morning. Thanks Colin!
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What vulgarity? It's quite obvious
you are stupid french gallery maker. The bottom feeder. Go back and worry about your gallery at Hun. One day you might afford your dream car
Mecedes A class. LOL
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About the only post in this thread that makes sense
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And as soon as you come up with a news camera that isn't operated by a human being, I'll concede the point.
Plenty. You've never seen footage from a surveilance cam? They're all over the place, what planet are <i>YOU</i> living on??
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I'm beginning to wondering which planet you live on. Here on earth, Ann Coulters hysterical tirade against everyone to the left of Pat Buchanan, despite the fact it contains a bunch of slanderous half-truths itself, sat atop of the NY Times bestseller list for a few weeks.
If you'd read my posts instead of compiling nonsense, you'd understand that I specifically said that all reporting is open to being bias in some way. Not all reporting IS bias, but for example, a lot of newspaper columns are, because they are rife with the personal opinions of the writer.
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More exhibits:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com

http://www.worldnetdaily.com

http://www.cwfa.org
Anyone who perceives the word according to Rush Limbaugh as gospel is an idiot anyway.
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Now, you might regard every one of those "news" organizations as big jokes, and you might not take them seriously, but believe me, there are more people than you want to think about who form their entire worldviews based upon that sort of "reporting."
I never said all news agencies were jokes. What I DID say is that <i>IF</i> a news agency is found to have reported something inaccurately they would lose a lot of credibilyt, something which is of course the lifeblood of the serious news sources.

I'm on Earth, what planet are you on?
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You believe that truth will show up on CNN?

"Sorry people, we lied to you"

Surf the net, listen to world news and you might get something different. But if only watch CNN and local papers, like most americans, you're biased. Come on, did you travel in your life? Go buy some newspapers around the world and read the headlines & editorials.
Only a fucking idiot would say this, especially to me. You have no clue about what news sources I tune in to. You have no clue what newpapers I might read articles from. You have NO CLUE what radio newscasts I listen to daily.

In short, you have no clue.
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Only a fucking idiot would say this, especially to me. You have no clue about what news sources I tune in to. You have no clue what newpapers I might read articles from. You have NO CLUE what radio newscasts I listen to daily.

In short, you have no clue.
Well if you had a clue, we would not argue on this.
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Well if you had a clue, we would not argue on this.
Right back at you.
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What vulgarity? It's quite obvious
you are stupid french gallery maker. The bottom feeder. Go back and worry about your gallery at Hun. One day you might afford your dream car
Mecedes A class. LOL
Hey Drew,

Hmm, I see that you have not been paying attention.
If you would like to start with the usual immature posts about who's bank account is bigger, go ahead - but you will be alone.

I have nothing to proof to you.

Greetings,

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Is this you and one of your European friends? LOL
Nothing beats European fashion.
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It seems like half the time, someone from EU, or immigrant, or French-Canadian, ridicules N. Americans for watching CNN, saying snidely that it is US-based so it must be biased, and adding that EU news is more worthy, believable and accurate. MY point is that this is retarded. Period. All news sources are prone to bias, innacuracies, mistakes, and propoganda at times. At times, not always.


I've tried to make my points clear and concise, yet as always, some people seem to skip over or miss altogether some vital snippets of my posts. Are these people dumb or simply quick to argue about anything? I honestly don't know.
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Is this you and one of your European friends? LOL
Nothing beats European fashion.
Dear Drew,

Yes that is me and my boyfriend.
We have been together for 10 years, aren't you happy for us?

Kisses,

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Plenty. You've never seen footage from a surveilance cam? They're all over the place, what planet are YOU living on??
Fair enough, but I think you'll agree that the vast majority of news footage isn't shot by surveilance camera.

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If you'd read my posts instead of compiling nonsense, you'd understand that I specifically said that all reporting is open to being bias in some way.
I understand. I was only taking issue with your statement that once a news source is exposed as biased people disregard it as nonsense. The opposite is true in many cases.

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Anyone who perceives the word according to Rush Limbaugh as gospel is an idiot anyway.
Agreed, but unfortunately we live in a world with lots of idiots. One of the biggest mistakes made by liberals and centrists is to dismiss right wingers as kooks. Kooks they might be, but there are alot of them, they are well organized, and they have a great deal of control over the political party currently occupying the executive branch.

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What I DID say is that IF a news agency is found to have reported something inaccurately they would lose a lot of credibilyt, something which is of course the lifeblood of the serious news sources.
And I responded by listing a some news organizations that are so biased its almost hilarious to read them. Or at least it would be hilarious, were it not for the fact that milions of people give them a great deal of credibility.

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CD Smith,

I agree with you.

I was in Nice, France a few years ago and didn't notice anything particularly different about the reporting of events *shrug*.

Indigo, have a website in particular that you could show us this big difference in reporting? Maybe a news clip? Hpw about an example? Anything?
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Hey Drew,

Hmm, I see that you have not been paying attention.
If you would like to start with the usual immature posts about who's bank account is bigger, go ahead - but you will be alone.

I have nothing to proof to you.

Greetings,

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Yes you are fucking idiot. Why should I care about
your bank acc.? LOL What is in there, your worthless Euro dollars? What the fuck I'd do with them? Wipe my ass?
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Toobiveek, a small planet orbiting a star in the outer spiral of M51.
Ahh. Must have one of those new faster than light internet connections I've been hearing so much about.
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Yes that is me and my boyfriend.
We have been together for 10 years, aren't you happy for us?

Kisses,

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What about European gays? ;-)
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ControlThy, as long as you stay on your side of the ocean I dont give a fuck.
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it's about time i saw some good political incorrectness

:-)

any hardline right wing religion (including christians) will always produce self reitious idiots that feel god has given them the right to end other peoples lives

yes - there are a lot of peaceful muslims
but there is nothing wrong with stereotyping anyone because people usually do what you would expect them to do
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Have you even read the koran?
partly yes, but I read so many reviews and feed by many expert people. Not any part writes go and kill others than muslims. This is crazy, actually it writes go and show your piece, friendship, good personality, etc... and invite them to muslim religion. Actually I don't understand this, all main religions pray to same god. They only have differences operating this. Everybody can choose whatever he/she like.
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Old 10-24-2002, 11:06 AM   #188
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Old 10-24-2002, 11:09 AM   #189
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for some reason I knew it was a guy named mohammad

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partly yes, but I read so many reviews and feed by many expert people. Not any part writes go and kill others than muslims. This is crazy, actually it writes go and show your piece, friendship, good personality, etc... and invite them to muslim religion. Actually I don't understand this, all main religions pray to same god. They only have differences operating this. Everybody can choose whatever he/she like.
Mohammed was a warrior. What kind of example did he set in his lifetime that people might follow? Here are some sample from the Koran.

The Immunity. 5. "Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them."

The Cattle. 76. "Those who believe fight in the cause of God."

The Women. 74. "Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God's path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward."

The Accessions. 39. "Say to the Infidels: if they desist from their unbelief, what is now past shall be forgiven; but if they return to it, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it God's."
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Are you speaking of the same Mohammed I know about? The same Mohammed that raided caravans bound for Mecca in order to keep the new muslims intact? The one who in his first year of the Hegira received permission from Allah to go to war in his name?

Some of Mohammed's close friends mentioned in the Koran: swordsmen, warriors, and archers. Hmmm.

Yes, peace is the "first subject".

1. Join us peacefully
If not ..
2. Die, infidel!

Mohammed was the leader of military operations.
All for it. He was a brave warrior - and that is what he was. Not a man of peace. Wanna see peace? See Gandhi. Not Mohammed.

Then the Muslims attacked the Persians, Syria,
Damascus, and so on.

What were the peaceful Muslims doing way up in Damascus?

Peace is not the first subject.
On those years there were wars and they were killing the ones that choose muslims. So that they defend and fight. Normally a muslim does not take a plane and dive to a tower. This is not muslim, this is terrorism and they think this is a mission from god. I'm not saying all the muslims are perfect, of course there are bad seeds in every religion. You can't blame this to all muslims. Most of muslims are living in piece.
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You can't blame this to all muslims. Most of muslims are living in piece.
no, most muslims *say* they live in peace
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no, most muslims *say* they live in peace
most muslims should be in pieces.
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most muslims should be in pieces.
You are exactly right.
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On those years there were wars and they were killing the ones that choose muslims. So that they defend and fight. Normally a muslim does not take a plane and dive to a tower. This is not muslim, this is terrorism and they think this is a mission from god. I'm not saying all the muslims are perfect, of course there are bad seeds in every religion. You can't blame this to all muslims. Most of muslims are living in piece.
I'm sure you are familiar also with the Hadith. How about the part where Mohammed slays Jews at Banu Quraiza simply for not supporting Mohammed.

Muhammad headed an army of three thousand infantry men and thirty horsemen of Ansar and Muhajireen. The Banu Quraiza was attacked for not supporting Muhammad when the Quraish attacked Medina. Ali sworn that he would never stop until he either storms their garrisons or be killed. This siege lasted 25 days. Finally the Banu Qurayza surrendered unconditionally. Muhammad ordered that the men be handcuffed, while the women and children were isolated in confinement. Thereupon Al-Aws tribe interceded begging the Prophet to be lenient towards them. Muhammad suggested that Sa'd bin Mu'adh, a former ally, be deputed to give verdict about them, and they agreed. Sa'd's verdict who had received as a serious wound in the previous Battle of the Confederates was "that all the able-bodied male persons belonging to the tribe should be killed, women and children taken prisoners and their wealth divided among the Muslim fighters.
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