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Old 07-23-2008, 07:05 AM   #51
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So is Blaire any better than Thatcher?
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:05 AM   #52
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And it is going to cost us tax payers £3 million

Why not give one to hitler while they are at it?

I'm surprised there are no riots...

For you Americans, imagine Bush, but 20x worse (no exageration) getting a $6 million dollar funeral from your tax money?
Only $6 million? Weren't Reagan's and Ford's funerals on the order of $100 million?

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Old 07-23-2008, 07:21 AM   #53
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Only $6 million? Weren't Reagan's and Ford's funerals on the order of $100 million?

It's not really the price it's the fact that someone as evil and fascist as her is getting a state funeral.

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So is Blaire any better than Thatcher?
Well, yes he is but that is like comparing Bin laden and Saddam hussein. They are both disasterous idiots. Except Blair didn't ruin the lives of millions of people, he just made a stupid descision and took the country to a war that the public didn't approve of.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:30 AM   #54
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Well argued. Now you put it like that you have totally changed my mind.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:08 AM   #55
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She needs to be cloned and brought back to clear up the shit that Blair and his Labour assholes have made of the Country.

Buzzy you are obviously a Northerner!
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:19 AM   #56
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The cheapest unsubsidised deep mined coal

The british people were subsidising coal through their electricity bills for years before Thatcher come to power. When she took over the coal mining industry was costing the UK over £400 million (the equivalent of £1.4 billion today) a year.

Failing on a big issue like that makes your whole argument seem pointless as I don't think you really know what you're talking about...
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:31 AM   #57
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Killing British heavy industry.
The Poll Tax.
Selling off council housing stock with no suggestion of where the next generation were going to live.
Closing down most of the coal mines in the UK, whether profitable or not, just to ensure she broke the power of the unions.
Short sighted, self centred, greedy b!tch politics.

Clearly you haven't looked at British history 1980 onwards, or you would know all this.
The only thing that surprised me about her having a heart attack was the fact that she actually has a heart.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:39 AM   #58
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Buzzy you are so wrong in this thread that it difficult for me to believe that you even believe what you have written.

Anyway at least we can agree that the EU bureaucracy is a fascist totalitarian menace.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:41 AM   #59
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Buzzy you are so wrong in this thread that it difficult for me to believe that you even believe what you have written.

Anyway at least we can agree that the EU bureaucracy is a fascist totalitarian menace.
Really? You can't deny she shat on the working class big time, like her or hate her.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:53 AM   #61
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No offence intended here Clare but you really dont have a clue what your talking about
She copied that from lloyds.com

The pink section (scroll down) titled LONDON: THE FACTS - http://www.lloyds.com/market/Issue2-...n/article1.htm
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I remember Maggie Thatcher being referred to as the Iron Lady.. but she had somewhat of a velvet glove.

The poll tax is what undid her.. and then Johnny Major boy ended up taking power and being Prime Minister for quite a while.

Maggie Thatcher wasn't a bad prime minister, and to compare her to Bush (as Bush is viewed by the majority of US citizens) is truly a disservice to her works imo.
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They should just dump Bush in the sewage plant that will soon be named after him.
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Her works? What works? And compare her to Bush? I'm not, because no matter how retarded Bush is, he can not be as bad as the old bitch.

Did you even read the thread? She totally descimated the entire country.
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Killing British heavy industry.
The Poll Tax.
Selling off council housing stock with no suggestion of where the next generation were going to live.
Closing down most of the coal mines in the UK, whether profitable or not, just to ensure she broke the power of the unions.
Short sighted, self centred, greedy b!tch politics.

Clearly you haven't looked at British history 1980 onwards, or you would know all this.
The only thing that surprised me about her having a heart attack was the fact that she actually has a heart.
Would you really want to live in this day and age in a western country that relied on heavy industry? With the competition from third world countries?
Also regarding the oil you mentioned earlier, the nation still owns it, it is licensed by the DTI to the oil companies. The whole oil thing didn't start to be profitable for anyone until the 80's, even though it was discovered in the 60's. Also regarding the mines, she did close them down because she had to, would you really want one union to be able to hold the whole country randsom as the miners did on more than one occasion?
If it wasn't for Thatcher the UK would be 10 times worse off than it is now, she modernised it at the right time.
Did she do everything right, no obviously not! No politician ever does, but she did a very good job.
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Would you really want to live in this day and age in a western country that relied on heavy industry? With the competition from third world countries?
Also regarding the oil you mentioned earlier, the nation still owns it, it is licensed by the DTI to the oil companies. The whole oil thing didn't start to be profitable for anyone until the 80's, even though it was discovered in the 60's. Also regarding the mines, she did close them down because she had to, would you really want one union to be able to hold the whole country randsom as the miners did on more than one occasion?
If it wasn't for Thatcher the UK would be 10 times worse off than it is now, she modernised it at the right time.
Did she do everything right, no obviously not! No politician ever does, but she did a very good job.
Modernise? She set us back a good couple of decades. I don't think you understand at all, we had cheap coal, cheap oil, cheap everything because it was all nationalised (and paying pretty much the same tax we are today), like Saudi Arabians only pay 0.13 for a litre of petrol. Not only did she ruin that while at the same time making millions lose their jobs, she also sold off a shit load council property.

She shat on the working class. Where are you from btw?
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:08 PM   #67
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Citation needed.

You complain about the quality of debate surrounding the cunt, yet, you come up with nonsense like that?

Point made. Your reply shows exactly that oh so many simply do not have the intelligence to debate politics. You are totally incapable of any sort of rational argument as you simply have no clue about the subject.

Nuff said. Flaming wars on porn board with dumb twats simply brings you down to their level.
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Modernise? She set us back a good couple of decades. I don't think you understand at all, we had cheap coal, cheap oil, cheap everything because it was all nationalised (and paying pretty much the same tax we are today), like Saudi Arabians only pay 0.13 for a litre of petrol. Not only did she ruin that while at the same time making millions lose their jobs, she also sold off a shit load council property.

She shat on the working class. Where are you from btw?
I'm Icelandic, but I've spent a while in the UK.

Millions might have lost their jobs back then, but if things would have kept going like they were the UK would have been basicly bankrupt in the early 90's and millions would have lost their jobs in the last 15 years with companies preferring to move their heavy industry to cheaper countries. Also just thank god you don't nead coals for anything other than a bbq's today, I'm sure a big part of the tourist industry is thankful most of the UK isn't covered in smog anymore. Also regarding the council houses, the idea was bad in the first place. Getting all the poor people congregated in one area has never been the most brilliant thing to do...
Also If you want cheap petrol you can always move to Saudi Arabia or Venezuela (or even the states for that matter)
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oh and I might add the the UK isn't the only country where wages have not gone hand in hand with price hikes. Most if not all western countries experienced the same.
China, India, Brazil etc. are all taking a bigger pice of the cake now.

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Her works? What works? And compare her to Bush? I'm not, because no matter how retarded Bush is, he can not be as bad as the old bitch.

Did you even read the thread? She totally descimated the entire country.
dude I was born and raised in the UK and lived through the Thatcher era.. I see you have a total hate on for her, and nothing anybody says will change your mind.

It is okay for people to have different opinions yknow
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dude I was born and raised in the UK and lived through the Thatcher era.. I see you have a total hate on for her, and nothing anybody says will change your mind.

It is okay for people to have different opinions yknow
I do not have a total hate for her, most of the nation does, you know, you used to be able to walk down downing street but thatcher was so hated they had to bar it all up and have guards standing at the end of the road.
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I do not have a total hate for her, most of the nation does, you know, you used to be able to walk down downing street but thatcher was so hated they had to bar it all up and have guards standing at the end of the road.
How old were you when Thatcher was in power? Five?

She had a hard job you know, She had both the UK and America to run! Reagan Just did what Maggie told him to do.
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Modernise? She set us back a good couple of decades. I don't think you understand at all, we had cheap coal, cheap oil, cheap everything because it was all nationalised (and paying pretty much the same tax we are today), like Saudi Arabians only pay 0.13 for a litre of petrol. Not only did she ruin that while at the same time making millions lose their jobs, she also sold off a shit load council property.
Basically your problem with her is that she is not a hardcore socialist. It may surprise you to know that many people do not support state ownership of industry. It has a rather dubious track record. You might consider studying the demise of the Soviet Union for a good example of the long term results of state ownership. Thatcher was the greatest UK Prime Minister since Churchill.
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I do not have a total hate for her, most of the nation does, you know, you used to be able to walk down downing street but thatcher was so hated they had to bar it all up and have guards standing at the end of the road.
didn't you ever hear of the IRA? where were you??
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He was in Nappies!
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