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07-02-2008, 09:51 PM
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UFC 86: Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin - Any Predictions??
 I've gotta say that when these two coaches from the Ultimate Fighter step into the ring on Saturday the 5th, there is going to be a lot of blood on the floor of the Octagon when this one is finished. My take on the fight is that Griffin is the obvious underdog however he has a decent chance of winning the championship title here. If he can manage to take Rampage down to the mat, he can dominate. However if he can't take Jackson down, 'Run Forrest, Run!' comes to mind - He's going to have stay out of the way of his opponents thunderous blows and his famous match ending power slams into the canvass. I believe that Forrest Griffin is being underestimated with the odds set for him at +200. If Griffin can do what I outlined above, he's got a shot. It may be a longshot, but this is the UFC and anything can happen... MY PICK: Griffin You can BET ON UFC 86 HERE. You also can read more over at my new sports betting website SportsBet101.com 
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07-02-2008, 09:56 PM
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i would rather forest win but im predicting Rampage.Forest is good but i think he may get his head bounced off the mat like Jardine did too him.
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07-02-2008, 10:14 PM
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I predict its going to be 2 men wrestling on the floor, grabbing crotch for a solid 5 minutes as usual.
And one of my good friends will have it recorded for me to watch when i get to his place.....even though he himself has probably already seen it 3-4x by the time i get there  I say UFC can't be called "ultimate" until weapons are allowed & we go back to Roman style.
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07-02-2008, 10:18 PM
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I may go ahead & put fiddy on this if they take epizzle
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07-02-2008, 10:31 PM
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I never bet sports on any of the betting sites, but I am a big UFC fan so would consider a friendly wager via Paypal or similar if someone wants to take Forest over Rampage. :-)
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07-02-2008, 11:11 PM
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Rampage will knock out Forrest.
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07-02-2008, 11:21 PM
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I say JACKSON! Can't wait to see the outcome. Where's everyone else watching?
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07-02-2008, 11:24 PM
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griffin is gonna be destroyed
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07-02-2008, 11:31 PM
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rampage, 1st round. over
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07-03-2008, 12:32 AM
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I'm betting on Griffin
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07-03-2008, 12:59 AM
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well who knows since forrest griffin is a ufc actor ... could be scripted either way...
I watched a lot and ive never called foul or fake until i seen forrest griffin fight shogun Rua... totally lame if you ask me... you can see RUa holding back... griffin needed his comeback to stay in the ranks for the upcoming shows n shit so they dropped rua in there to lose... who here really think griffin would beat rua ? seriously...
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07-03-2008, 04:24 AM
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Rampage by KO in round 3
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07-03-2008, 04:30 AM
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I say, every round it goes increase Forest's chances by 20%. If he does not get knocked out, he'll win by sub.
Forrest by RNC in the fifth. I predict Rampage, the better puncher, will be chasing Forrest who will try to hit and run. And I predict Forrest will chip away at him, until he is so worn down that he gets choked.
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Winner can be only one, Rampage in second round
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07-03-2008, 05:30 AM
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gotta go with my boy Griffin. jackson is by far the more season fighter but Griffin is hungry.
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07-03-2008, 05:33 AM
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rampage has WAY more experience, griffin is a rook.....
Anyone who thinks griffin can do the same as shogun......? http://mmalinker.com/xSearch.php?nam...=5321&vi dt=i I dont |
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07-03-2008, 05:38 AM
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I pick Rampage based on the power behind his hands. Sneak one in and goodnight
That said. I dont see either fighter letting a lucky or sneaky hit through. Both fighters are at the top of their game and whoever wins will deserve to hold the belt. But you never know with the UFC I still gotta go with Rampage on this one, and I see this easily being a 3 fight series to determine the best of the 2.
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07-03-2008, 06:43 AM
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I'm taking griffin in a fluke 1st round knockout.
Griffin looks corruptible & will throw a fight at the peek of his popularity. Mark my words, it might very well be this fight coming up......
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07-03-2008, 08:46 AM
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Jackson is rock!!
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07-03-2008, 08:49 AM
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rampage is gonna drag him around like a woman
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07-03-2008, 08:53 AM
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Rampage wins my vote, thou its a tough call
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07-03-2008, 08:54 AM
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Rampage, round 3 (cant decide between TKO or Submission)
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07-03-2008, 09:03 AM
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I got a friendly bet with a friend that gave me rampage straight up
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I like your breakdown! I'm on the other end though. Rampage has been very rarely submitted on the ground. I don't think Forrest can do waht other's couldn't. Let's go over the two fighters who have beaten Page in dramatic fashion, Shogun and Wanderlai, with Wanderlai in particular. Wandy is Forrest's training partner. Wandy knocked the fuck out Rampage in Pride, beat him silly. Fast forward now to Page having a better trainer, better training partners, and being overall a better fighter... Then bring into the fact that Forrrest gets a concussion by Wanderlai when they spar... I dont' see Forrest winning. Sorry. In any aspect of the fight, standing or the ground. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1355530.ece
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07-03-2008, 09:23 AM
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I fucked both of their mothers to get them into fighting mode.
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07-03-2008, 09:36 AM
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I have a very difficult time betting against anybody named Quentin, even if he does spell it wrong...
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LOL at the guys who think they fix the fight...
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07-03-2008, 09:56 AM
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I want Forrest to win, but I think that Rampage is going to take it
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07-03-2008, 10:25 AM
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I really think rampage is just too mean a mothafuxa to mess around with right now.
Hes got the mental game right now thats his top asset. Forest isnt going easy- but I wouldnt be surprised if he gets caught early..quick and vicious ground and pound by jackson- and a stoppage by the ref. Or...to really surprise the MMA world- tap out forest rear naked choke- because im betting forest isnt giving his JJ any respect- therefore Rampage will give him a little surprise. |
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I understand the skill lvl and endurance and also the fact that shogun wasnt allowed to heel their face or what else hes famous for... he fought NOTHING Like he usually does and he HASNT been back since... And then whgen he was submitted you could see in his face and eyes that he regretted even getting in the ring for the lose... ive never called foul until that fight... forrest was going down hill... he was losing (in his past fights n such) white neeeded something to bring him back so he looked like a tough fighter... when hes not tough, not compared to who is a real fighters in the octagon... 75% of his weight class could beat his ass... ive said my piece... if it were a total fluke that griffin beat Rua... fine... but i dont think it was a "fluke"...
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Rampage because he has a chin and Forest does not have KO power. But Forest is training at Xtreme Couture so you never know.
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Fix a fight? Oh come on.
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Also, even Bas talks about how it is basically impossible to fix a fight. You can't control if you are going to be KO'd by a high kick or not. In Japan they had fixes like Rampage/Wandi where the ref stood them up while Rampage was busy on the ground is one example. And even Rampage said that he had been asked to take a dive. That was Japan, the US is a little different. I'm sure there are some orgs where fights are fixed, but there is just too much sponsorship money on the table these days for someone like Rampage to throw a fight in the US. I do believe that most of the fighters respect the sport and are trying to legitimize it, not knock it back 20 years.
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That's gonna be a weak fight. Of course Rampage will win.
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Every fighter has off nights, and perhaps it was Rua's turn. Clearly he was gassed early in the fight and wasn't getting inside on Griffin -> frustration sets in and he looks like he pretty much gave up by the last round. Also see Anthony and Brad's posts, they have more inside knowledge than I (especially because I have none). |
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All I can say is that Rampage is funny as hell. If anyone has seen the prefight interview with him, you'll agree.
He says the most ridiculous shit, it's awesome.
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I bet for Forrest on Bodog earlier today. Go Go Go!
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sucks pretty bad as a rapper. dont quit yer day job Rampage
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But after this season of TUF, I have to admit that I really like him now. He's dumb as fucking dirt, but he's funny. I almost peed my pants when they were evaluating the fighters on that first show and he was trying to take notes and he said "Damn, I can't spell what I want to write."  However, with the exception of BJ Penn, Forrest is my favorite guy, so I have to root for him.
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you obviously keep a way closer eye on this area than anyone else here... perhaps I am bitter from watching that fight, but you all have to agree... If nothing else... Rua, overall, is a much better fighter than griffin...
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I think Rampage will punish Forrest for 2 rounds before it gets stopped
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Rampage will out-muscle Griffin. Rampage also has a chin like a brick and is able to take an obscene amount of punishment. If Griffin doesn't have knockout power, Rampage has this in the bag.
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I predict Rampage FTW
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Can't wait for this fight.... Rampage will be Griffin's toughest opponent to date.
I predict Rampage!
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Rampage KO r1 or r2.
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