Originally Posted by Deej

how else do you explain shogun losing to griffin and not fighting like he ever has...

I understand the skill lvl and endurance and also the fact that shogun wasnt allowed to heel their face or what else hes famous for...

he fought NOTHING Like he usually does and he HASNT been back since...

And then whgen he was submitted you could see in his face and eyes that he regretted even getting in the ring for the lose...

ive never called foul until that fight...

forrest was going down hill... he was losing (in his past fights n such) white neeeded something to bring him back so he looked like a tough fighter... when hes not tough, not compared to who is a real fighters in the octagon... 75% of his weight class could beat his ass...


ive said my piece...

if it were a total fluke that griffin beat Rua... fine... but i dont think it was a "fluke"...