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Old 10-19-2002, 01:17 PM   #2
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what a cocksucker - nice job busting him
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Old 10-19-2002, 02:54 PM   #3
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Hahahahah someone added pichunter in there....
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:28 PM   #4
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... interesting
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:43 PM   #5
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What an idiot not to put a password on his script admin area.
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:50 PM   #6
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This is fucked up - a mod should kill this thread, or n2972s should edit the original post.
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:51 PM   #7
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i wonder if this is another reason why pichunter is pissed?
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:52 PM   #8
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What an idiot not to put a password on his script admin area.
hitbotters are usually not too bright
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:54 PM   #9
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Jesus....

That guys script looks waaaaaaaay to profeesional....

Wonder how long it has been for sale to cheating bastards.
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:56 PM   #10
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hehe good job. cheating sux.
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Old 10-19-2002, 03:58 PM   #11
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I think this thread may be giving Robin Hood Hit bot some future customers.

This thread should be removed.
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Old 10-19-2002, 04:03 PM   #12
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At least there is no link to it, so they'll have to look for it. But this isn't cool. Some fuck can add sites in there and fuck with people. Not cool
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Old 10-19-2002, 04:04 PM   #13
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someone just added my tgp wtf...im contacting this fuckers host
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Old 10-19-2002, 04:25 PM   #14
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Now thats just fuckin funny!
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Old 10-19-2002, 04:33 PM   #15
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Check out his scratch pad....I love it. What a fuckin loser
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Old 10-19-2002, 05:14 PM   #17
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Old 10-19-2002, 05:15 PM   #18
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Gee that was useful...now everyone can go out and get their own copy.
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Old 10-19-2002, 05:17 PM   #19
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wow, these features beat the jesus hitbot hands down

boneprone...what do you have to say about this obviously superior product?
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Old 10-19-2002, 05:17 PM   #20
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Old 10-19-2002, 05:32 PM   #21
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http://www.x-xxx.net/xxxxxx/robinhood/
<== And here is who make the Robin Hood Hit bot
basically it is a "perl archive" type of site.
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Old 10-19-2002, 06:34 PM   #22
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lol, that guy got deleted 2 seconds after he signed up ;)

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Old 10-19-2002, 08:14 PM   #23
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I found this don't know if any of you traffic trades can use it.. I have no ideal if it's any good...

http://www.xxxscripts.net/products.html

This Script is written in PHP and PERL. TRAFFIC BOSS® has been
designed to use minimal server resources and achieves it convincingly.
Other scripts require you to buy a faster dedicated server just to
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Clicks are counted only if a real person clicks on an actual link
and you set the return time to exclude IN or OUT surfers so HITS
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Old 10-20-2002, 01:08 AM   #24
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I thinks it weird that this guy knew what the url to the admin script is - did he just guess the name of cgi file??
I think not

He is either spamming his hitbot or uses the script himself
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Old 10-20-2002, 11:12 AM   #25
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Old 10-20-2002, 11:22 AM   #26
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I thinks it weird that this guy knew what the url to the admin script is - did he just guess the name of cgi file??
I think not

He is either spamming his hitbot or uses the script himself

redshift is correct
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Perhaps he saw it in his referrer stats.

I know that when I pour through my logs, I come across some interesting shit. A couple years ago I found the url in my stats to one of the major programs admin stats areas. Was awesome.
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Old 10-20-2002, 11:28 AM   #28
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I think you are right, I looked at the whois info for all the sites.
The hitbot maker, the site in question, and some other stuff...
All different.
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Old 10-20-2002, 11:47 AM   #29
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Old 10-20-2002, 11:56 AM   #30
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Cool, I'm gonna order op a copy of the Robin Hood hitbot for my site
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Old 10-20-2002, 12:11 PM   #31
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I think that this hitbot is a bit of a joke - as you will notice if you look at its sales page, it claims that it doesn't need proxies..

Now, if you know the internet at all, you'll know that the one thing that can't easily be spoofed is IP address - yes, it CAN be spoofed, but it's a fuck of a lot harder than you'd think, and no hitbot is going to do it automatically.

So, if this thing truly doesn't use proxies, then it's a threat to only the stupid.

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I think that this hitbot is a bit of a joke - as you will notice if you look at its sales page, it claims that it doesn't need proxies..

Now, if you know the internet at all, you'll know that the one thing that can't easily be spoofed is IP address - yes, it CAN be spoofed, but it's a fuck of a lot harder than you'd think, and no hitbot is going to do it automatically.

So, if this thing truly doesn't use proxies, then it's a threat to only the stupid.

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yeah ive been thinking about how this would work since this was first posted.... the software claims to support cookies but if the ip is forged how does the packets get returned to the originating ip so it can store/retrieve the cookie info... maybe its possible...
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Old 10-20-2002, 02:16 PM   #33
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its all become very clear now
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yeah ive been thinking about how this would work since this was first posted.... the software claims to support cookies but if the ip is forged how does the packets get returned to the originating ip so it can store/retrieve the cookie info... maybe its possible...
i do know how to spoof packets but for basic stuff like checking for open ports. the thing is with tcp/ip is that you have the 3 way handsake and allot of other things have to taken into consideration, like guessing the seqeunce numbers and so on.

It is possible to spoof unique hits that are productive without the use of proxies, but this is due to bad programming in one of the scripts that guys rave about over here. I've tested it and and all i have to say is that we are not as safe as we think we are. I have not hitbotted anyone and will never. cheaters will be caught, maybe we should start a anti-cheater movement where we sniff these guys out.
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Old 10-20-2002, 02:32 PM   #36
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I'm amazed that people cheat... I mean... We're all in this to make money. I'm a full timer and I have to pay my rent every month, get something to eat, ect. Cheating people doesn't only hurt for 5 minutes... They can put people out of business and leave them with a hugh loan in the bank. That's sad!
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those non proxy hitbots are a prick to catch, but that RH one likes clicking on invisable links ;)
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Shane,

Perhaps you could explain just how it is hard to catch when it has only one IP? As I've said, good luck spoofing an IP, it's not the easiest thing in the world.. When I see one IP that's clicked a shitload of times, I see a hitbot.. So how could this one be hard to detect? Fill us in.

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I wonder if he's getting sick of people fucking with his script?
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Perhaps he saw it in his referrer stats.

I know that when I pour through my logs, I come across some interesting shit. A couple years ago I found the url in my stats to one of the major programs admin stats areas. Was awesome.
Quite true, I have seen this myself. I just wanted to see the answer from the guy who found it.
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Shane,

Perhaps you could explain just how it is hard to catch when it has only one IP? As I've said, good luck spoofing an IP, it's not the easiest thing in the world.. When I see one IP that's clicked a shitload of times, I see a hitbot.. So how could this one be hard to detect? Fill us in.

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The shitty thing about logging ip's is that you have to log all ip's, so you have to run through a file or database a couple of hundred thousand times a day... not very server friendly one would assume.
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why wouldnt it spoof ips?

because its hard? So what?
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No one seems to get this..

It's not because it's "hard" - I meant that it's hard for a hacker to do it. It's pretty much impossible for a script to do it on any kind of scale, as there's all sorts of things involved. It's not as simple as just changing a field in the packet.

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No one seems to get this..

It's not because it's "hard" - I meant that it's hard for a hacker to do it. It's pretty much impossible for a script to do it on any kind of scale, as there's all sorts of things involved. It's not as simple as just changing a field in the packet.

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I think i do get it and it would be stupid for somebody that intellegent to waste their time on a dumbass hitbot, while they could spoof any server in the world.
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hi everyone, so far only proxy could do this, but I tough of something wich really bothers me. What if the hitbot got propagated like an online virus... by checking your mail or entering a site using activex or something to auto-install it.

it would then use the infected computer IP to generate fake hits!

I'm sure thats possible and is already being done and it scares the shit out of me!

now look at all cheaters searching on SE for such viruses
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hi everyone, so far only proxy could do this, but I tough of something wich really bothers me. What if the hitbot got propagated like an online virus... by checking your mail or entering a site using activex or something to auto-install it.

it would then use the infected computer IP to generate fake hits!

I'm sure thats possible and is already being done and it scares the shit out of me!

now look at all cheaters searching on SE for such viruses

brilliant. i thought i was the only one that checked that out, but i guess now there's 2, no shit... not just 2 but the rest of GFY. this is not good.

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yep this is pathetic!

maybe thats how sexocean cheats if he does? ;)
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