A public apology to Baddog - GoFuckYourself.com

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 11:42 AM

I took the political argument too far today and Im sorry. I got tired being verbally beat up by you and I put my sense decency aside. I was wrong, arguing on a board achieves nothing. Im going to stop talking politics on this board, I get too caught up in it. Again Im sorry i upset you it wont happen again.

halfpint · 06-14-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I took the political argument too far today and Im sorry. I got tired being verbally beat up by you and I put my sense decency aside. I was wrong, arguing on a board achieves nothing. Im going to stop talking politics on this board, I get too caught up in it. Again Im sorry i upset you it wont happen again.

hehe politics always causes arguments...

kudus to you for apologizing

nosey · 06-14-2008, 12:12 PM

CDSmith · 06-14-2008, 12:17 PM

One of the best tricks to "arguing politics" here is to avoid giving in to the driving urge to make everyone see things your way, because.... it ain't never gonna happen for you. Unfortunately too many here can't seem to help themselves. I'm not saying this is you, Tony.

Good move with the apology.

Honestly if I thought Baddog wasn't voting for Obama based on skin color I would have called him on it months ago, but I've never seen any evidence in his posts that that's how he rolls. Accusing him of it was definitely out of line.

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

One of the best tricks to "arguing politics" here is to avoid giving in to the driving urge to make everyone see things your way, because.... it ain't never gonna happen for you. Unfortunately too many here can't seem to help themselves. I'm not saying this is you, Tony.

Good move with the apology.

Honestly if I thought Baddog wasn't voting for Obama based on skin color I would have called him on it months ago, but I've never seen any evidence in his posts that that's how he rolls. Accusing him of it was definitely out of line.

That's why Im not doing it anymore here or at home. I see the debates with my father escalating and don't want another going in for the kill moment like I did here. Im ashamed of what I said and I hope baddog can find it in his heart to forgive me.

Finike · 06-14-2008, 12:29 PM

Nice move!

06-14-2008, 12:45 PM

You were not the first.

And you will not be the last to accuse someone of being a racist for questioning/criticizing OBAMA.

Compdoctor · 06-14-2008, 12:48 PM

see quote <<--------

Iron Fist · 06-14-2008, 01:03 PM

You can only influence others. That is all.

Peaches · 06-14-2008, 01:07 PM

Tony, probably the best thing you could do is write a response (or start a thread) and save it for 24 hours before you post it. Just looking at your thread starts recently, most are political. IOW, you're not just getting into the discussions, you're starting many of them.

You went on this same rampage with tubes and posted this:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=814423

And you've had to "apologize" to at least one other person (and IIRC, at least one more, Jace, last year):

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=812275

Stop worrying about your post count. Sit on your posts for 24 hours, go back and read where the discussion is then, and THEN maybe make your post/start your thread. It will keep you from having to apologize and being on Bromasters as the "Tony404 Bot Software" (paraphrased) ;)

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Tony, probably the best thing you could do is write a response (or start a thread) and save it for 24 hours before you post it. Just looking at your thread starts recently, most are political. IOW, you're not just getting into the discussions, you're starting many of them.

You went on this same rampage with tubes and posted this:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=814423

And you've had to "apologize" to at least one other person (and IIRC, at least one more, Jace, last year):

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=812275

Stop worrying about your post count. Sit on your posts for 24 hours, go back and read where the discussion is then, and THEN maybe make your post/start your thread. It will keep you from having to apologize and being on Bromasters as the "Tony404 Bot Software" (paraphrased) ;)

Im not worried about post count, since I'm used to working with lots of people this replaced the water cooler for me. The problem is I get too caught up sometimes when I argue and get upset.It's stupid on my part.
I have had at least 5 people add me to their icq and their first im to me is I really enjoy your posts. So I have to be doing something right but no more arguing for me.
Also just because I dont talk about illegal tubes anymore doesnt mean I dont think that they arent seriously hurting the industry.

Big_D · 06-14-2008, 01:19 PM

2 conversational topics to avoid at all costs: politics and religion

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_D

2 conversational topics to avoid at all costs: politics and religion

You're right, if I was at the water cooler at work. I wouldn't let it get to that level. I have to remember that.

stickyfingerz · 06-14-2008, 01:23 PM

Im glad I dont care much about this upcoming election. After my last big guffaw, and talking to you about it too Tony, I realized to just post things as lighthearted as possible when discussing any kind of politics lol. Cudos on your post Tony.

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Im glad I dont care much about this upcoming election. After my last big guffaw, and talking to you about it too Tony, I realized to just post things as lighthearted as possible when discussing any kind of politics lol. Cudos on your post Tony.

You're right, I look forward to meeting you in ATL.

StuartD · 06-14-2008, 01:53 PM

It's very easy for those conversations to get heated.
There's always someone who questions your intelligence and it just escalates from there.

What's not easy is to remove yourself from it, take a breather and realize that the time and energy put into it could be better put to use by working together.

Eriic · 06-14-2008, 02:16 PM

Why apologize? Baddog is a nobody and if he gets upset, tough Shit.....

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eriic

Why apologize? Baddog is a nobody and if he gets upset, tough Shit.....

Because if I feel I wasn't correct on something. I like to make it right.

GrouchyAdmin · 06-14-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Because if I feel I wasn't correct on something. I like to make it right.

It may just be my spider sense tingling, but if you actually called BadDog a racist, you shouldn't be apologizing - you should be groveling.

nation-x · 06-14-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eriic

Why apologize? Baddog is a nobody and if he gets upset, tough Shit.....

posts like this always crack me up... nobodies posting that a community celeb is a nobody.

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

It may just be my spider sense tingling, but if you actually called BadDog a racist, you shouldn't be apologizing - you should be groveling.

I didnt call him a racist.
He said:
Because I would not vote for Obama somehow equates to I am a Republican that would never vote for a Democrat?

I am pretty sure I have been a registered Democrat since you were in diapers, if not before.

Why McCain? Because the fucking Democrats gave me no choice, just like 2004.
Then I said :
Yep the polls show older white men will not vote for a black man for president.
Then He said:
Are you suggesting I won't vote for Obama because he is black?
The I said:
Yep I am

He had been giving me shit on the thread and I was getting really annoyed. I shouldn't of went there, I said I was sorry and I was wrong on here and ICQ. He doesnt want to accept that's his choice.

qxm · 06-14-2008, 03:06 PM

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that pic rocks!

CDSmith · 06-14-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I didnt call him a racist.

Correct me if I'm wrong but... isn't not voting for someone solely because of the color of their skin just a tad racist?

I kind of think it is.

So accusing someone of doing that is, well, at the very least tantamount to calling them one, no?

I put myself in his place and frankly I don't know how else to see it either.

Kard63 · 06-14-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I didnt call him a racist.
He said:
Because I would not vote for Obama somehow equates to I am a Republican that would never vote for a Democrat?

I am pretty sure I have been a registered Democrat since you were in diapers, if not before.

Why McCain? Because the fucking Democrats gave me no choice, just like 2004.
Then I said :
Yep the polls show older white men will not vote for a black man for president.
Then He said:
Are you suggesting I won't vote for Obama because he is black?
The I said:
Yep I am

He had been giving me shit on the thread and I was getting really annoyed. I shouldn't of went there, I said I was sorry and I was wrong on here and ICQ. He doesnt want to accept that's his choice.

Nominating the most liberal person in the senate 2 elections in a row is a pretty scummy thing of the dems to do. In 2000 they ran a moderate and got 500,000 more votes than Bush, in 2004 they ran a super liberal and got 3.5 million votes less than Bush. They don't care about winning.. they care about getting exactly what they want. They are every bit as selfish as the republicans. If McCain wasn't going to bankrupt the country by taxing less and spending more I would vote for mcCain too.

Pnk XXX · 06-14-2008, 03:09 PM

who cares what an old man thinks

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Correct me if I'm wrong but... isn't not voting for someone solely because of the color of their skin just a tad racist?

I kind of think it is.

So accusing someone of doing that is, well, at the very least tantamount to calling them one, no?

I put myself in his place and frankly I don't know how else to see it either.

The word racist didnt come out of my mouth. I showed what was said. People have called this man all sorts of fucked up things on this board and he has made it his duty to be my critic every chance he gets.When they were doing a trashing number on him I said Baddog to me looks like someone that would take have your back if you were in the shit.Gave compliments on pictures he has taken, wished him the best on his daughter's wedding and suggested songs when he made a thread asking for them. I said I was sorry.Forgive me great don't don't.

notoldschool · 06-14-2008, 03:18 PM

GFY apologies are gay on so many levels. Dont worry Tony, Baddog has no pull in this industry so there is little he can do. lol

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

GFY apologies are gay on so many levels. Dont worry Tony, Baddog has no pull in this industry so there is little he can do. lol

Im not afraid of Baddog or worry what he can do. Even though baddog busts my balls on a semi regular basis I like him. I went too far and said I was sorry.

notoldschool · 06-14-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Im not afraid of Baddog or worry what he can do. Even though baddog busts my balls on a semi regular basis I like him. I went too far and said I was sorry.

I know what you mean. hes like a grumpy old bear who likes to stir up shit. Im sure hes a good guy.

CDSmith · 06-14-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

The word racist didnt come out of my mouth.

Tony, go look up the word "tantamount"

See also: "implied"

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Originally Posted by tony404

I showed what was said. People have called this man all sorts of fucked up things on this board and he has made it his duty to be my critic every chance he gets.When they were doing a trashing number on him I said Baddog to me looks like someone that would take have your back if you were in the shit.Gave compliments on pictures he has taken, wished him the best on his daughter's wedding and suggested songs when he made a thread asking for them. I said I was sorry.Forgive me great don't don't.

Seems now like you're actually not really apologizing, but just want to argue semantics.

Fact is, HE took it as you were at least implying he was racist. And I've told you that I saw it that way as well. I'm sure there are a few others here who at least wondered about it in that context as well.

Either apologize the whole way, or deny things.

You may not have intended it to be calling him racist, but that's the way it came off. I don't think I can explain it any clearer than I did above.

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Tony, go look up the word "tantamount"

See also: "implied"

Seems now like you're actually not really apologizing, but just want to argue semantics.

Fact is, HE took it as you were at least implying he was racist. And I've told you that I saw it that way as well. I'm sure there are a few others here who at least wondered about it in that context as well.

Either apologize the whole way, or deny things.

You may not have intended it to be calling him racist, but that's the way it came off. I don't think I can explain it any clearer than I did above.

What does it matter to you? How is this your concern? I started this thread arguing nothing. Just saying I was sorry.

CDSmith · 06-14-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

What does it matter to you? How is this your concern? I started this thread arguing nothing. Just saying I was sorry.

It matters nothing to me. Some of your comments after your "apology" showed you may not quite be seeing this the way he saw it though. Since I was on that thread with you guys I thought I'd try to get you to see things from that perspective, since he doesn't seem motivated to respond here as yet.

No worries, you're obviously not interested in what I've told you, so good luck, I'm out, you're on your own.

Not that you give a shit if he accepts your apology or what I think. :D

Cheers.

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 03:50 PM

Well Ill amend it. Im sorry I implied your racist for not voting for obama. I was wrong and Im sorry.

tony286 · 06-14-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

It matters nothing to me. Some of your comments after your "apology" showed you may not quite be seeing this the way he saw it though. Since I was on that thread with you guys I thought I'd try to get you to see things from that perspective, since he doesn't seem motivated to respond here as yet.

No worries, you're obviously not interested in what I've told you, so good luck, I'm out, you're on your own.

Not that you give a shit if he accepts your apology or what I think. :D

Cheers.

Actually your wrong, if I didnt care why would I put myself out for public humiliation? I would said nothing or continued arguing that thread.

notoldschool · 06-14-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Well Ill amend it. Im sorry I implied your racist for not voting for obama. I was wrong and Im sorry.

CDSmith · 06-14-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Actually your wrong, if I didnt care why would I put myself out for public humiliation? I would said nothing or continued arguing that thread.

Well I didn't want to go assuming anything. :D

Big of you to make that amendment.

Brujah · 06-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Don't sweat it tony, he's a troll and instigates things a lot of the time. He'd be the first to whine to the moderators against you. One of those greasy sleazy types.

sysk · 06-14-2008, 04:07 PM

serious business

payd2purv · 06-14-2008, 04:09 PM

I dunno if a thread really cuts it..

I think you really need a public video apology posted on youtube.

Atleast 3:25 in length.

Brujah · 06-14-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by payd2purv

I dunno if a thread really cuts it..

I think you really need a public video apology posted on youtube.

Atleast 3:25 in length.

+ wearing women's clothing, and singing Rick Astley.

jalami · 06-14-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_D

2 conversational topics to avoid at all costs: politics and religion

Two things that are at the heart of how a person perceives the world.

GrouchyAdmin · 06-14-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jalami

Two things that are at the heart of how a person perceives the world.

...but may otherwise be useful.

Eriic · 06-14-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

posts like this always crack me up... nobodies posting that a community celeb is a nobody.

I never made any claim to be anybody, but if you think Baddog is a celeb, well you are one Ignorant Fuck aren't you?

Barefootsies · 08-25-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I took the political argument too far today and Im sorry. I got tired being verbally beat up by you and I put my sense decency aside. I was wrong, arguing on a board achieves nothing. Im going to stop talking politics on this board, I get too caught up in it. Again Im sorry i upset you it wont happen again.

You are the bigger man.

XoXo Cash · 08-25-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eriic

Why apologize? Baddog is a nobody and if he gets upset, tough Shit.....

that's kind of mean....

Bird · 08-25-2008, 07:09 PM

I would rather argue about life and religion.

TheDoc · 08-25-2008, 08:12 PM

Is this for real? Maybe his power went out.

EmpireAutopilot · 08-25-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

One of the best tricks to "arguing politics" here is to avoid giving in to the driving urge to make everyone see things your way, because.... it ain't never gonna happen for you. Unfortunately too many here can't seem to help themselves. I'm not saying this is you, Tony.

Good move with the apology.

Honestly if I thought Baddog wasn't voting for Obama based on skin color I would have called him on it months ago, but I've never seen any evidence in his posts that that's how he rolls. Accusing him of it was definitely out of line.

I searched his old posts after some political threads and seems he's always been a Republican apologist.

EmpireAutopilot · 08-25-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

It's very easy for those conversations to get heated.
There's always someone who questions your intelligence and it just escalates from there.

What's not easy is to remove yourself from it, take a breather and realize that the time and energy put into it could be better put to use by working together.

It's hard not to question intelligence when ADULT webmasters are voting Republican. Takes a real "special" kind.

EmpireAutopilot · 08-25-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Tony, go look up the word "tantamount"

See also: "implied"

Seems now like you're actually not really apologizing, but just want to argue semantics.

Fact is, HE took it as you were at least implying he was racist. And I've told you that I saw it that way as well. I'm sure there are a few others here who at least wondered about it in that context as well.

Either apologize the whole way, or deny things.

You may not have intended it to be calling him racist, but that's the way it came off. I don't think I can explain it any clearer than I did above.

I found the designated "Whoa" guy. That one that always jumps in the middle of a fight to break it up and give his opinion about why people did what they did and blah blah blah blah. Anyone got an ice pick?

06-14-2008, 11:42 AM	#1
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	A public apology to Baddog I took the political argument too far today and Im sorry. I got tired being verbally beat up by you and I put my sense decency aside. I was wrong, arguing on a board achieves nothing. Im going to stop talking politics on this board, I get too caught up in it. Again Im sorry i upset you it wont happen again.

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06-14-2008, 12:45 PM	#7
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Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Tony, probably the best thing you could do is write a response (or start a thread) and save it for 24 hours before you post it. Just looking at your thread starts recently, most are political. IOW, you're not just getting into the discussions, you're starting many of them. You went on this same rampage with tubes and posted this: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=814423 And you've had to "apologize" to at least one other person (and IIRC, at least one more, Jace, last year): http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=812275 Stop worrying about your post count. Sit on your posts for 24 hours, go back and read where the discussion is then, and THEN maybe make your post/start your thread. It will keep you from having to apologize and being on Bromasters as the "Tony404 Bot Software" (paraphrased) ;)

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06-14-2008, 01:23 PM	#14
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Eriic So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,995	Why apologize? Baddog is a nobody and if he gets upset, tough Shit.....

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Well Ill amend it. Im sorry I implied your racist for not voting for obama. I was wrong and Im sorry.

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