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Old 06-05-2008, 06:20 PM   #1
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Obama has already started laying down the law on the democratic party .. no lobbyist

As new leader of the democratic party Obama has laid down the law and as of yesterday the DNC can no longer take money from lobbyist or PAC's special intrest groups...

?We will not take a dime from Washington lobbyists or PAC?s, we?re going to change how Washington works, they will not fund my campaign or my party, we?re going to change the way things are done and they are not going to drown out your voice,?

Man I hope hes careful hes changing things that some powerful people will not like. Kinda scary ... but good for America

http://www.kcrg.com/explorepolitics/...im&id=19578934

I am betting hes pissed off quite a few democrats who were stuffing their pockets with this
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he might be the last great "hope" america has left

sure I'd rather see a libertarian get into office, but its not going to happen

this country is becoming more like a dictatorship every day & we need someone to reverse that....i pray that obama can do it
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Lets see the GFY neo cons come out to post how bad he is compared to mcflop.
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Who's taking bets on the over/under for assissination attempts.
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not a bad thing imo
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i hope he stays behind locked doors and indoor events..not out in the open
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my wife just basically said the same exact thing

"he better be careful or they will kill him"

god, isn't that sad
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not a bad thing imo
What would not be a bad thing?
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i'm saying that in my opinion its a good thing that they can no longer take money from lobbyists.
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The DNC will continue to work with lobbyists... dont get too excited... Campaign donations arent the only way lobbyists get things done their way...
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not a bad thing imo


No its not a bad thing at all for the people of America? in fact it?s a great thing

But could be a real bad thing for him, the thing is this will take away the influence a lot of corporations and power brokers had in Washington and pretty much give the power to the people?. This sounds good to everyone except the people who stand to lose some power / influence

You see Washington is all about power and there are people who live their entire life brokering power, selling power power deals etc on behalf of foreign governments , corporations and special groups?

in the past all it took was money? you know the old saying? anything is for sale..

but hes taking the US goverment off the market..... nothing is for sale

I nor anyone else have any idea what an American government would be like without lobbyist and back room money deals
Its almost unimaginable

I think its gonna be dangerous to get washinton to work this way

Him trying to change washington is far riskier than his just being black.
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my wife just basically said the same exact thing

"he better be careful or they will kill him"

god, isn't that sad

I hope Obama stays safe , wears a vest and stay out of public view

an Obama assination at this point would pretty much mean an unrecoverable slide for America

The rest of the world would completely lose what little respect they have for us

The country would be in turmoil from riots demostrations etc

and shit I guess the wrath of god would fall upon us

I wonder is there a bibilical chapter or section that relates to this moment in american history ( and no I am not religious) but I have seen where thing in history seem to relate directly to the bible
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he might be the last great "hope" america has left

sure I'd rather see a libertarian get into office, but its not going to happen

this country is becoming more like a dictatorship every day & we need someone to reverse that....i pray that obama can do it
I actually heard the first things I didn't like about Obama today. My Aunt works pretty high up for a NASA contractor and it seems Obama has major cuts in store for our space programs.

One of the only things I liked about Bush was he actually gave NASA funding to get shit going again. Would tick me off if Obama starts cutting that stuff if elected.
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I hope Obama stays safe , wears a vest and stay out of public view

an Obama assination at this point would pretty much mean an unrecoverable slide for America

The rest of the world would completely lose what little respect they have for us

The country would be in turmoil from riots demostrations etc

and shit I guess the wrath of god would fall upon us

I wonder is there a bibilical chapter or section that relates to this moment in american history ( and no I am not religious) but I have seen where thing in history seem to relate directly to the bible
if he was assasinated, this country would turn....and turn real quick

I don't mean this in ANY racially motivated way whatsoever, but see what happens in the ghetto when a basketball team wins a final? now think about when a black president is assasinated

scary
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i agree.
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I actually heard the first things I didn't like about Obama today. My Aunt works pretty high up for a NASA contractor and it seems Obama has major cuts in store for our space programs.

One of the only things I liked about Bush was he actually gave NASA funding to get shit going again. Would tick me off if Obama starts cutting that stuff if elected.
I'm all for living on the moon, but things need to be prioritized

Example Projected Forsight..

Global Warming, and Population concerns leading to the end of the planet as inhibitable..
Estimated time frame for complete destruction.... 50 years
$500m of budget goes to correcting this problem

Estimated time frame of inhibiting the moon or mars, or at least sending our trash there
200 years
Budget $750m

Kinda shoot your own foot no?
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again skirting the real issues.

He will keep troops in Iraq
He is threatening war with Iran
He is looking to expand the war into Pakistan to "get Osama"
He will keep no child left behind
He will raise taxes
He will keep the patriot act
He will keep "secret prisons"
He will keep warrantless searches
He will keep wire tapping
He will keep our boarders open (where the real threat of terrorism lies)
He has no plan to save the failing dollar

The list goes on.

Yes he is better than McInsane... But how much better?

If we do not keep his feet to the fire we will move quicker into fascism that anyone wants to believe.
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I'm all for living on the moon, but things need to be prioritized

Example Projected Forsight..

Global Warming, and Population concerns leading to the end of the planet as inhibitable..
Estimated time frame for complete destruction.... 50 years
$500m of budget goes to correcting this problem

Estimated time frame of inhibiting the moon or mars, or at least sending our trash there
200 years
Budget $750m

Kinda shoot your own foot no?
It's a toss up. We could spend the $ to make the earth more suitable for more people. Or we could spend the $ on NASA and start the great migration to other planets to solve our over-population issues.

IMO i think we should be betting on expanding on to other planets. When gallon of gas or a loaf of bread costs $30 no ones going to give a shit about the environment....period.

Lets just hope some other Alien race doesn't consider us a Virus & exterminate us once we're start inhabiting other planets.
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if he was assasinated, this country would turn....and turn real quick

I don't mean this in ANY racially motivated way whatsoever, but see what happens in the ghetto when a basketball team wins a final? now think about when a black president is assasinated

scary
links to 3 riots or whatever afeter nba final wins please

better yet howabout just two


The riots that follow after an obama assination will be multi racial.... all colors... not just black


All Americans will be pissed
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I'm all for living on the moon, but things need to be prioritized

Example Projected Forsight..

Global Warming, and Population concerns leading to the end of the planet as inhibitable..
Estimated time frame for complete destruction.... 50 years
$500m of budget goes to correcting this problem

Estimated time frame of inhibiting the moon or mars, or at least sending our trash there
200 years
Budget $750m

Kinda shoot your own foot no?
We went from zero to landing men on the moon in just under 10 years. Why? Because we had drive and determination as a nation to do it. Having the nation behind that kind of determination is what causes us to advance further and faster.

He isn't going to use the money for global warming but for education, yet knowing how govt works it would end up everywhere but there. So in the meantime thousands of jobs are lost and a entire industry that drives advancements goes to nothing.

I'd say we could cut back on a B2 bomber or two and save a few billion or quit subsidising big oil and corm farmers who grow it for fuel. There are a million places to save money with out taking away something as important as NASA.
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btw I'd say $4 to $5/gal fuel will go a long way to helping us out on global warming. I had to drive down to Brevard County today (place the shuttle launches) and the traffic was much lighter due to not as many people driving.

It's pretty clear less people are driving if they don't need to, that means much less emissions and greenhouse gasses.
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if he was assasinated, this country would turn....and turn real quick

I don't mean this in ANY racially motivated way whatsoever, but see what happens in the ghetto when a basketball team wins a final? now think about when a black president is assasinated

scary
have you seen what happens downtown when a hockey team wins the stanley
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links to 3 riots or whatever afeter nba final wins please

better yet howabout just two


The riots that follow after an obama assination will be multi racial.... all colors... not just black


All Americans will be pissed
sorry if it wasn't all for nba finals, i don't watch sports and it was the first thing that came to mind

shit, I was in downtown LA when this broke out
http://www.seanbaby.com/news/riot.htm

as we were driving off doing 60mph in a 20mph zone I could see cars blowing up and the bruthas were throwing rocks at our car

we also lived in lexington kentucky the wildcats won the football finals that year, the crowd went onto the field, ripped both goalposts down, carried them all the way to the center of the college downtown. then proceeded to ransack homes in the area, turn cars on their sides and light the local bars on fire

my point was basically black people are never afraid to hit the streets and tear shit up, white people are usually too pussy for it
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have you seen what happens downtown when a hockey team wins the stanley
i will say this, we ain't got nuthin on scotland when they win their soccer games! hahaha
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sorry if it wasn't all for nba finals, i don't watch sports and it was the first thing that came to mind

shit, I was in downtown LA when this broke out
http://www.seanbaby.com/news/riot.htm

as we were driving off doing 60mph in a 20mph zone I could see cars blowing up and the bruthas were throwing rocks at our car

we also lived in lexington kentucky the wildcats won the football finals that year, the crowd went onto the field, ripped both goalposts down, carried them all the way to the center of the college downtown. then proceeded to ransack homes in the area, turn cars on their sides and light the local bars on fire

my point was basically black people are never afraid to hit the streets and tear shit up, white people are usually too pussy for it

WTF?

I only see white folks...you were saying????

enough of this, Obama 08
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?We will not take a dime from Washington lobbyists or PAC?s, we?re going to change how Washington works, they will not fund my campaign or my party, we?re going to change the way things are done and they are not going to drown out your voice,?
I have been waiting too long for some one with some sort of power in the gov to say this! This is exactly what needs to be done to begin the restoration of the USA.

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I only see white folks...you were saying????

enough of this, Obama 08
yeah, the pics show that, but that wasn't what it was like down there...that was directly in front of the arena right after the game ended, shortly after that the fights and hate started
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I agree with Dr. King when he said it's not the color of the skin, it's the content of the character. And as such, I would say only that incredibly stupid idiots would riot and burn and smash and destroy after a sporting event. Stupid idiots. Period.
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i didn't trust obama at first - but now i fear he will be assassinated by the dark powers that control america ...
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No its not a bad thing at all for the people of America? in fact it?s a great thing

But could be a real bad thing for him, the thing is this will take away the influence a lot of corporations and power brokers had in Washington and pretty much give the power to the people?. This sounds good to everyone except the people who stand to lose some power / influence

You see Washington is all about power and there are people who live their entire life brokering power, selling power power deals etc on behalf of foreign governments , corporations and special groups?

in the past all it took was money? you know the old saying? anything is for sale..

but hes taking the US goverment off the market..... nothing is for sale

I nor anyone else have any idea what an American government would be like without lobbyist and back room money deals
Its almost unimaginable

I think its gonna be dangerous to get washinton to work this way

Him trying to change washington is far riskier than his just being black.
Yet if he got assassinated, I guarantee it is a 'redneck' who gets charged for it and 90% of America fall for it.
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The DNC will just take the money from the spouses of lobbyists just like Obama did. There are always loopholes to get the money and try to appear to be above the fray. Depending on what the media decides to cover its very possible.
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You got that right... I love they guy but like JFK... he is a moving target with increasing popularity...
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my point was basically black people are never afraid to hit the streets and tear shit up, white people are usually too pussy for it

stereo types suck

honestly white people are not afraid of shit either ... you can pick any country on the planet and there have been riots by just about every race...

the link you posted shows white rioters

realy just about anybody will do just about anything given the same situations

I know black dudes who get nervous when some one stand close to em and I know white dudes who will crack your skull with a head butt for looking the wrong way

.... we are all the same... crazy fucked up humans


race dosent have anything to do with it

......now the more money a person has ... the less likely they are to riot etc etc.... money is the control group.. not skin color
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Acting civilized is "pussy"?
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Hmm he talks a good talk. So can anyone tell me what he accomplished so far during his public service? Just one thing?
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:04 PM   #41
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"Who's taking bets on the over/under for assissination attempts.
WG"

6 months +- a month.

"my point was basically black people are never afraid to hit the streets and tear shit up, white people are usually too pussy for it"

Ya, that whole "American Revolution" thing was way over rated.
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Old 06-06-2008, 08:45 AM   #42
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I highly doubt 'they' will assassinate him unless they want to declare martial law, people of all races would take to the streets. you know the saying fool me once blah blah. The people realize NOW that jfk,rfk,mlk all had the government involved somehow.


why assassinate him when you have dieblod machines at your disposal?
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