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wow steep jail sentence..
http://charlotte.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/2008/ce051308.htm
Ok this guy robbed banks and made off with close to $3k but does he deserve 72yrs in federal prison? I love how USA adds charges.. You commit one crime and they can make it 10 charges, each with X10 year in prison.. Now watch someone go kill someone and get only 15yrs in prison.. I know some people will say he deserved it.. but america has the highest incarceration rate, yet we dont have the lowest crime by any stretch.. I check out court files/cases everyday and i see people handed sentences like they are getting handed water.. 10 years, 15 years, 25 years,etc. WTF? I mean recently someone got like 10 years for using someone else's credit card. 10 YEARS??
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It was about making a statement to criminals. But now it's turning into soccer moms going to jail for rear ending someone for 45 years.
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yup. they keep building more and more jails.. millions of people are in jail/prison... Makes no sense at all
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If you read the press release you see he's a repeat offender, he was robbing banks a month after getting out of the slammer for... robbing banks. Who knows, this may not even be his second visit to jail, he could have been in there other times.
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the reason that they have to add on the more charges is to make sure that something sticks. to many people have walked because they have not been charged to the correct things, and the slick attorney gets them off.
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rowan i know, but still if he was in the Uk/Canada he would get maybe 10yrs.. listen .. 72 YEARS!! thats what you get for first degree murder.
he didnt hurt anyone, he held them up and stole little money. It doesnt deserve 72 years thats all im saying Even my criminal justice teacher last semester agreed that the usa legal system is fucked.. they are throwing STEEP jail sentences like thai whores throw pussy
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Yeah, that is steep. Basically his life is over.
I do think there is some merit to the 3 Strikes rule however - if I'm not mistaken, 3 serious convictions (felonies) and it's automatic lifetime. That seems fair: The 1st time, okay, you're young and stupid perhaps or just made a bad choice; 2nd time, you got a break but this is your last warning; 3rd time, it's obvious you're a career criminal - at least one in the making, you're out of here. |
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"All of these robberies occurred one month following HINTON'S release from federal prison following his 2003 conviction for a 2002 bank robbery in Greenville, North Carolina"
The guy gets out of prison for robbing banks and first thing he does is rob more banks. They should just execute him imo
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yeah tell that to the guys in california serving life sentences for drug crimes that REALLY arent that serious.. when someone commits a crime, give him a jail time equivalent to the CRIME..
SO you rob a bank 1st time = 5yrs, 2nd time = 5yrs, 3rd = 5yrs. just cause someone does it 3rd time doesnt mean you give them life. Its kinda like saying you get caught going 10mph over limit, you get 2 points, 2nd time you get caught, 2 points again, 3rd time you get caught, 20 points.. is that fair?
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Maybe one judge should go serve one year and see how it feels, this way next time he is giving someone 10years for writing bad checks, he'll see the 10 years is too steep
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i see your point and i kinda agree with that but the fact that they commit something wrong is what they think about...whatever they did, how much did they get from it is not to be considered...that's life and that's how justice rule..
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Puritans.......
btw. the whole USA is fucked up. Obesity, health care, economy, patriot act, laws, justice system. Why? Because Americans don't do nothing about anything. They like getting fucked in the ass and taken away ALL their freedom step by step. |
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So while life imprisonment does not fit that single crime (the 3rd robbery) clearly, the existing punishment (say 5 years) hasn't had the desired effect. So at that point I think it's in the public's best interest, and to protect their constitutional rights, that the offender be taken off the streets for good. And remember, life isn't usually "life" - he could be up for parole, sentenced reduced, etc. depending on how state laws are. Certainly I would agree that if a 22-year-old man is convicted of armed robbery for the 3rd time, he shouldn't necessarily be in jail until the day he dies.... But I wouldn't find it inappropriate if he served 25-35 or more for the 3rd offence. |
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When he hit me he was on probation for his second felony. What a fuckin joke
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You cant make a statement to criminals by sending them to jail longer. That just makes a statement to taxpayers that their money is wasted. |
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ok panhandling is illegal in many places. homeless people walking across town can get you arrested in many places. what did you want him to do? |
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and you are a typical USA idiot..
Just wait till you do something minor, even by mistake, and find out you are facing 20 years in jail.. then usa wouldnt be fun anymore. Something is wrong if as civilized as we are, we have the highest rate of imprisonment... what does that tell you? And we still have crimes galore... So maybe giving people 20 years for selling weed isnt really working for us?
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Some Judges do get carried away with the number of years they throw at people. If you have the power to hand out jail sentences, you should be made to spend at least one night in a cell. Kinda like how cops have to take a stun gun or taser hit in training.
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reduce jail time drastically.. someone needs to reaccess jail sentences.. the war on drugs isnt working either..Jail is for people who are a danger in society.. Tons of people in jail really dont belong there.
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Chinese citizenship is way better a deal, I think even Chat/Somali etc is marginally an improvement. The average whore in a dilipidated town with a psychotic pimp still has a better deal than some putz having to deal with the IRS, the US tort and the rest of the legal system. Think about it before having kids. |
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I was a watching a documentary and they showed since prisons got privatized sentences got longer. Makes you hmmmmm.
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How can you guys bitch that some criminal is put behind bars? The guy is obviously an idiot with zero respect for the law... not sure about you guys, but I'm glad idiots like these are behind bars... it's kinda a bitch that we have to pay for it, but it beats having morons like these walking the streets..
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so he should be allowed to rob banks until someone finally gets in his way and he kills them to escape?..if you dont consider someone that will walk into a bank with an gun and rob it a dangerous criminal, what is?
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wow... that is FUCKED up!
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Dangerous criminal ? Yes. Shooting ourselves in the foot ? Gladly. And there's one little bit in there about, you know, a crime being a fact not a possibility. You might kill me tomorrow for all I know, but that alone constitutes no grounds for your incarceration. At least in my view. |
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Hang the bastard
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My ex-wife's brother went to jail for four years for bank robbery....He wasn't out a year and robbed a few more...Then he got a 44 year sentence.....
I went to college, met my wife, had children, divorced the woman, and the kids will be grown a LONG time before that fool will get out....
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Which you will explain away as "mental conditions that can not be cured". Fact of the matter is your law increased murder cases 10x. Quote:
For instance, the people who are right now managing to get away with having invented the "Exotic Financial Instruments" that pretty much fucked the country are dangerous criminals. The people going before the senate and lieing so as to get the country into a war it can not, and could never win, the people wheeling and dealing behind closed doors, with your fate and your entire neighbourhood's are the dangerous criminals. And as long as your judges are busy with the intricate details of the biography of nitwits, they will get away. Which is exactly what they want. |
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jail doesnt cure people, it makes them worse, you give someone 10 years +, you might as well give them life,
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When you get out of jail you have no money, what are you to do? I cant say I Know how it works, but i imagine you walk out the door and have about $200 check maybe from the 8 cents per hour you earned.... you have no family, you have nowhere to go... what do you do? The only thing you know... rob a bank....
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It's pointless to have a law making bank robbing illegal. As is clearly illustrated here the law does not work because it did not stop this guy from robbing banks. There are thousands of banks already out there and thousands of criminals are going to rob them. So no need to have a law saying it's illegal to rob banks.
Then think of all the money you save not locking up people and finding them after they have robbed banks. Using their legally owned guns that are not illegal as criminals do not worry about laws. Anyone who does not get my ironic/sarcastic humour can flame me for the above post. |
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are you guys serious?
do you realize how much money flows thru the US Prison system every single year? HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars. there is no incentive for them to decrease crime because the jailers, the judges, the prison making companies, the prison guards then would all be out of a job. the US prison system is setup to PROFIT, not enforce any kind of justice. States having prisoners work for .11 cents a day while the state profits off their toil. Innocent people being jailed and/or being sentences to death or life in prison Judges pushing for maximum sentence for nonviolent crimes Corrupt prison officals tons and tons of problems in the US. US = a police state |
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Yeah the USA has a lot of problems, there is no doubt. The jails and prisons are overcrowding. But there are problems everywhere in the world. We are no different.
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