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Choker · 10-10-2002, 10:01 PM

The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me.

frankfortuna · 10-10-2002, 10:05 PM

I'm not ashamed to say that our sales have been off by nearly 40% for the past 2 weeks. I've been wondering what the root cause is also.

Brown Bear · 10-10-2002, 10:05 PM

How would they "scrub more" even if they wanted to?

I mean, what extra criteria would they be including in the CC verification that would allow the to scrub harder?

Choder · 10-10-2002, 10:05 PM

I'm right there with you, dude. This week SUCKS!

Nice name too, btw

PornBroker · 10-10-2002, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me.

Last 24 hrs my "inbox" is full from top to bottom
with fucking declines!!!!!!!!!!

Choker · 10-10-2002, 10:11 PM

Quote:

I mean, what extra criteria would they be including in the CC verification that would allow the to scrub harder?

Not sure, but I sure see a lot of affiliate programs that say shit like "Less Scrubbing", "We Scrub less" etc,etc
Maybe they are scrubbing out countries with historically higher CB's they were not before? Common sense tells me they are watching their backs much more now than they were a week ago. They would be fools not to.

redshift · 10-10-2002, 10:11 PM

if the bastards are going to start scubbing harder
then just fuck it - it's hard enough to get a sales as it is

or maybe I'll convert one of my merchant accounts that I have to high risk, then I will have control of scubbing. it's cheaper any damn way

Choder · 10-10-2002, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornBroker

Last 24 hrs my "inbox" is full from top to bottom
with fucking declines!!!!!!!!!!

Time to actually buy your content? j/k

pimplink · 10-10-2002, 10:12 PM

If this is true, then they've been doing it since the past 2 months. I've seen a MASSIVE decline in sales [across 5 differing sites] and I do double opt in email marketing.

Brown Bear · 10-10-2002, 10:12 PM

The last 24 hours has sucked balls, but the rest of this week has been kick ass.

I have no idea what happened in the last 24 hrs

Spliceragain · 10-10-2002, 10:13 PM

Same thing here... It started on the 4th I think.
I hope this is not the "new way" cos I'm toast!

I was also wandering about the VISA thing cos the announcement came just about the same time.

cherrylula · 10-10-2002, 10:14 PM

I don't know about the scrubbing thing. But my take on the slowness of sales right now has to do with the fact that people are not spending too much $$$ as they are waiting for the US to bomb the fuck out of Iraq and another huge war possibly beginning.

Once they blow the fuck out of Iraq, spending will go up up up.

My GTZ · 10-10-2002, 10:17 PM

Tuesday's sales were very good, now I haven't had anything for Wednesday or Thursday.

Talk about shitty!

Choder · 10-10-2002, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I don't know about the scrubbing thing. But my take on the slowness of sales right now has to do with the fact that people are not spending too much $$$ as they are waiting for the US to bomb the fuck out of Iraq and another huge war possibly beginning.

Once they blow the fuck out of Iraq, spending will go up up up.

This is supposed to be a recession proof industry!

sinmaster · 10-10-2002, 10:17 PM

My father and I were discussing the new visa regs today and the topic of scrubbing came up, I told him how my card was denied trying to buy content through a site using one of the 2 major processors, My card is good and always has been. After debating back and forth off to the computer we went, he tried to do the same purchase using one of the "no credit limit" platinum cards he has and guess what-----DECLINED
wtf? this is crazy if he wanted to he could buy a friggin' house with that card.

btw-- sign ups are down for me also

Dildozer · 10-10-2002, 10:18 PM

Sales ahve been down for me all week long also

nocostporn · 10-10-2002, 10:19 PM

once gas cost 13 cents a gallon people will be so fuckin happy they will just come home jerking until they have to get up and go to work again...it's going to be great! WAR BAAAABY!

frankfortuna · 10-10-2002, 10:21 PM

I hate to read between the lines, but I wonder if the situation we are discussing is what prompted Ox to begin offering a dialer earlier this week.

vik · 10-10-2002, 10:24 PM

Same here, sales are zilch this past week. Funny thing, I check my CCBILL stats, and they're showing no declines for the entire week - yah right!. What the hell are they doing with my declines, because my traffic hasn't changed.

Nikkey · 10-10-2002, 10:25 PM

My sales suck as well! This blows!

Candyman69 · 10-10-2002, 10:31 PM

still going strong here
maybe a 1-2 singups decrease
still hard to tell there are good weeks, and not AS good weeks hehe

MikeEP · 10-10-2002, 10:32 PM

Agreed ..sales have been weird the past two days for us as well. Someone sure turned up the scrub....

Choker · 10-10-2002, 10:32 PM

I think it's obvious they are indeed scrubbing harder. With all the crap going on I expect them to, but most likely they are in crisis management mode right now. Instead of just scrubbing the paysites with high CBs that deserve it, I bet they are scrubbing their entire portfolio harder. This is what is bullshit to me. Scrub the ones who deserve it, not the ones who don't.

Theo · 10-10-2002, 10:34 PM

last 2-3 days are not good,not that bad though in order to claim such thing....i expect friday and weekend to recover

Mr.Fiction · 10-10-2002, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
I hate to read between the lines, but I wonder if the situation we are discussing is what prompted ND to begin offering a dialer earlier this week.

I thought it was Ox? I didn't see dialer stats on Nasty - did I miss something?

Maybe they are scrubbing certain big players harder to try to make sure they are inside the ratios. Personally I have not seen a huge decline across the board, but I have seen certain programs nose dive.

Then again, maybe they're just using tranny looking girls on their straight site weekly updates. That hurts too.

frankfortuna · 10-10-2002, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

I thought it was Ox? I didn't see dialer stats on Nasty - did I miss something?

Maybe they are scrubbing certain big players harder to try to make sure they are inside the ratios. Personally I have not seen a huge decline across the board, but I have seen certain programs nose dive.

Then again, maybe they're just using tranny looking girls on their straight site weekly updates. That hurts too.

Sorry, I mistyped.

Indeed · 10-10-2002, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me.

Which cc processor? Epoch, Ibill, CCbill or else?

Mr.Fiction · 10-10-2002, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed

Which cc processor? Epoch, Ibill, CCbill or else?

Don't forget Jettis!

TheFLY · 10-10-2002, 10:55 PM

Yeah I'm getting similar reports from my associates... I had to drop some dead weight and start selling to different sites. Bail out on these scrubby programs! Don't let them fuck you -- there's lots of people buying traffic! It has been a lot of work... in the long run we will be running tighter ships.

Shark · 10-10-2002, 10:57 PM

I've had 3 average days in the middle of the last 10 with ibill.

Other than that, I've seen a very unusual, sharp decrease/plummet in signups either side of the middle of those 10 days.

There was a post relating to this earlier in the week

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=80715

Theo · 10-10-2002, 10:58 PM

thursday is never great for me,if the weekend will be shit i'll know something is not right since every weekend sponsors rule

Choker · 10-10-2002, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Which cc processor? Epoch, Ibill, CCbill or else?

I would rather not say since they are helping me put food in my kids mouths. Again I expect them to scrub harder now with all that is going on, in the long run this will be better for everyone, just don't scub the sites that don't need scrubbing, that's all I'm saying. That's like the teacher punishing the entire class because of just one or two bad apples.

Choder · 10-10-2002, 10:59 PM

Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell

Choker · 10-10-2002, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell

Neither, I buy and sell skimmed TGP and gallery traffic, thanks anyway man.

Ace-Ace · 10-10-2002, 11:09 PM

People are always horny; war-time or not...

My GTZ · 10-10-2002, 11:11 PM

Tuesday I had 8 sales with ARS, Wednesday and Thursday I had 0 sales with each day bringing in the same amount of traffic.

I know it's not on my end so it is either ARS or Ibill that has caused the problem for Wednesday and Thursday.

DamnFineOnline · 10-10-2002, 11:16 PM

I'm right there with you, I've seen a drop in sales of at least 50% on the same or greater amount of traffic. It's some bullsheeet!

My GTZ · 10-10-2002, 11:18 PM

Just when I think things are going to get better, they just take a shit the next day.

When will it ever be back to normal again?

Please, oh please I wish it where all better!

NETbilling · 10-10-2002, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redshift
if the bastards are going to start scubbing harder
then just fuck it - it's hard enough to get a sales as it is

or maybe I'll convert one of my merchant accounts that I have to high risk, then I will have control of scubbing. it's cheaper any damn way

Redshift,

You are thinking smart! Give us a call and we will get you all setup. It's all about the control...

Mitch

TheFLY · 10-10-2002, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choder
Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell

Send it to my trade script socalsweets.com -- you'll get back some useful traffic in return.

Indeed · 10-11-2002, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling

Redshift,

You are thinking smart! Give us a call and we will get you all setup. It's all about the control...

Mitch

Mitch,
Do you accept people from Canada?

Pornwolf · 10-11-2002, 12:18 AM

I'm pretty sure he does. Mitch accepts everyone from Budhapest all the way to Butte, Montana!

EscortBiz · 10-11-2002, 12:22 AM

great guys

xanx · 10-11-2002, 12:30 AM

Damn.... What A time to be breaking into this industry. Maybe I'll just go stand on the corner with a sign. Those guys actually do a pretty good donation to car ratio. It's all about the cardboard sign.

NETbilling · 10-11-2002, 12:40 AM

Indeed,

I'm sure we can help you as we have several Canadian merchants.

Please call Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166, or Outside the US: (661)252-2456 so that we may answer all of your questions and get you setup with Netbilling Services.
We look forward to hearing from you. The sales office is open 9-5pst, Monday - Friday.

Xanx,

It is not a bad time at all!

Thank You, Mitch Farber

Brown Bear · 10-11-2002, 12:40 AM

My conversion ratio for the past 5 weeks = 1:180

My conversion ratio for Thursday October 10th = 1:1368

I have no idea what the fuck happened on Thursday.

This happens every so often and I have no explaination, hopefully Friday will be back to normal. It always does go back to normal. I guess I'll know in 24-48 hrs from now.

Spoonie Luv · 10-11-2002, 02:13 AM

So I guess this is a bad time to get into the biz?

xanx · 10-11-2002, 02:18 AM

Crankerville... sounds like where I'm from. Damn meth heads!!!

EscortBiz · 10-11-2002, 04:56 PM

The week has been good but the past 12 hours have been real BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Pornwolf · 10-11-2002, 04:59 PM

Fuckin 'ell! The Sky is Falling! What the heck is up with ratios this week! This wekend is not starting off well!

10-10-2002, 10:01 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	I'm getting my ASS scrubbed RAW The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

10-10-2002, 10:05 PM	#3
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	How would they "scrub more" even if they wanted to? I mean, what extra criteria would they be including in the CC verification that would allow the to scrub harder? __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

10-10-2002, 10:05 PM	#4
Choder Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 446	I'm right there with you, dude. This week SUCKS! Nice name too, btw __________________ Make money with your exit/404 traffic - hit up ICQ 26910698 <br> "My eyes! The goggles do nothing!"

10-10-2002, 10:12 PM	#10
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	The last 24 hours has sucked balls, but the rest of this week has been kick ass. I have no idea what happened in the last 24 hrs __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

10-10-2002, 10:17 PM	#15
sinmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 376	My father and I were discussing the new visa regs today and the topic of scrubbing came up, I told him how my card was denied trying to buy content through a site using one of the 2 major processors, My card is good and always has been. After debating back and forth off to the computer we went, he tried to do the same purchase using one of the "no credit limit" platinum cards he has and guess what-----DECLINED wtf? this is crazy if he wanted to he could buy a friggin' house with that card. btw-- sign ups are down for me also __________________

10-10-2002, 10:05 PM	#2
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	I'm not ashamed to say that our sales have been off by nearly 40% for the past 2 weeks. I've been wondering what the root cause is also.

10-10-2002, 10:11 PM	#7
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	if the bastards are going to start scubbing harder then just fuck it - it's hard enough to get a sales as it is or maybe I'll convert one of my merchant accounts that I have to high risk, then I will have control of scubbing. it's cheaper any damn way

10-10-2002, 10:12 PM	#9
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	If this is true, then they've been doing it since the past 2 months. I've seen a MASSIVE decline in sales [across 5 differing sites] and I do double opt in email marketing.

10-10-2002, 10:13 PM	#11
Spliceragain Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baja Posts: 23	Same thing here... It started on the 4th I think. I hope this is not the "new way" cos I'm toast! I was also wandering about the VISA thing cos the announcement came just about the same time.

10-10-2002, 10:14 PM	#12
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I don't know about the scrubbing thing. But my take on the slowness of sales right now has to do with the fact that people are not spending too much $$$ as they are waiting for the US to bomb the fuck out of Iraq and another huge war possibly beginning. Once they blow the fuck out of Iraq, spending will go up up up.

10-10-2002, 10:17 PM	#13
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	Tuesday's sales were very good, now I haven't had anything for Wednesday or Thursday. Talk about shitty!

10-10-2002, 10:18 PM	#16
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	Sales ahve been down for me all week long also __________________ Spam link here

10-10-2002, 10:19 PM	#17
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10-10-2002, 10:21 PM	#18
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	I hate to read between the lines, but I wonder if the situation we are discussing is what prompted Ox to begin offering a dialer earlier this week. Last edited by frankfortuna; 10-10-2002 at 10:42 PM..

10-10-2002, 10:24 PM	#19
vik Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 144	Same here, sales are zilch this past week. Funny thing, I check my CCBILL stats, and they're showing no declines for the entire week - yah right!. What the hell are they doing with my declines, because my traffic hasn't changed. __________________ PhotosByVik.com Photonudity.com

10-10-2002, 10:25 PM	#20
Nikkey Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 35	My sales suck as well! This blows!

10-10-2002, 10:31 PM	#21
Candyman69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 764	still going strong here maybe a 1-2 singups decrease still hard to tell there are good weeks, and not AS good weeks hehe __________________ domain buyer

10-10-2002, 10:32 PM	#22
MikeEP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 464	Agreed ..sales have been weird the past two days for us as well. Someone sure turned up the scrub....

10-10-2002, 10:34 PM	#24
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	last 2-3 days are not good,not that bad though in order to claim such thing....i expect friday and weekend to recover

10-10-2002, 10:55 PM	#29
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Yeah I'm getting similar reports from my associates... I had to drop some dead weight and start selling to different sites. Bail out on these scrubby programs! Don't let them fuck you -- there's lots of people buying traffic! It has been a lot of work... in the long run we will be running tighter ships.

10-10-2002, 10:57 PM	#30
Shark Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 205	I've had 3 average days in the middle of the last 10 with ibill. Other than that, I've seen a very unusual, sharp decrease/plummet in signups either side of the middle of those 10 days. There was a post relating to this earlier in the week http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=80715

10-10-2002, 10:58 PM	#31
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	thursday is never great for me,if the weekend will be shit i'll know something is not right since every weekend sponsors rule

10-10-2002, 10:59 PM	#33
Choder Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 446	Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell __________________ Make money with your exit/404 traffic - hit up ICQ 26910698 <br> "My eyes! The goggles do nothing!"

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10-10-2002, 11:11 PM	#36
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	Tuesday I had 8 sales with ARS, Wednesday and Thursday I had 0 sales with each day bringing in the same amount of traffic. I know it's not on my end so it is either ARS or Ibill that has caused the problem for Wednesday and Thursday.

10-10-2002, 11:16 PM	#37
DamnFineOnline Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: palm beach, fl. Posts: 348	I'm right there with you, I've seen a drop in sales of at least 50% on the same or greater amount of traffic. It's some bullsheeet!

10-10-2002, 11:18 PM	#38
My GTZ Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 604	Just when I think things are going to get better, they just take a shit the next day. When will it ever be back to normal again? Please, oh please I wish it where all better!

10-11-2002, 12:18 AM	#42
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I'm pretty sure he does. Mitch accepts everyone from Budhapest all the way to Butte, Montana! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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xanx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,711	Damn.... What A time to be breaking into this industry. Maybe I'll just go stand on the corner with a sign. Those guys actually do a pretty good donation to car ratio. It's all about the cardboard sign.

10-11-2002, 12:40 AM	#45
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10-11-2002, 02:13 AM	#47
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10-11-2002, 02:18 AM	#48
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10-11-2002, 04:59 PM	#50
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