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Tipsy · 10-11-2002, 05:05 PM

Past few days hasn't been great but today has been fucking awful so far. Only certain sponsors though so I guess it depends who they use. Certainly iBill has been far lower than usual with a couple of the sponsors who use it.

Tipsy · 10-11-2002, 05:07 PM

You'd think with so many jumping ship they'd try to get the balance right rather than just blanket declining and making even those hanging on wanna move. Crazy situation.

EscortBiz · 10-11-2002, 05:08 PM

its not my biller because im not even getting decline emails

Shoplifter · 10-11-2002, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Certainly iBill has been far lower than usual with a couple of the sponsors who use it.

My Ibill sales are up. What percentage are declined who knows.

I am finding that some programs using other processors are down. But who knows why.

Which processors show declines these days?

E-Randy · 10-11-2002, 05:10 PM

Which processors are you guys using? I'm using Jettis for my processing and my sales have actually increased in the past two weeks.

NETbilling · 10-11-2002, 06:06 PM

And if you guys had control of your own scrubbing tools... you would know exactly what was going on.

ô¿ô

Mitch

hunterallturbohosting · 10-11-2002, 07:01 PM

My sales are the equivalent of jerking off with boxing gloves on! anyone try to get any answers from thier billing company? I did and I got the old everything is just fine on our end bullshit. They suck

Jayson · 10-11-2002, 07:10 PM

It makes a lot of sense that scrubs are harder.

Lets say the billers are expecting to lose volume because of this Visa crap. They have to keep their chargebacks within limits but as far as know, chargebacks are measured in the month they happen against the current volume, not back against the month the original charge occured.

So if you think you are going to lose 25% of your business as an example, and a chargeback takes a few months to come through, your 1% chargeback ratio really needs to be 0.75%. So you need to be doing something about that now and not in 3 months time.

Shoplifter · 10-11-2002, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
And if you guys had control of your own scrubbing tools... you would know exactly what was going on.

ô¿ô

Mitch

I'm curious, how does Netbilling work with the .htpasswd files on our servers?

And how should a Canadian fill out the pre qualification form on your site?

Thanks!

Carrie · 10-11-2002, 08:20 PM

I'm amazed that no one has thought
"Hey, I wonder if since all of these hundreds of webmasters have bailed out of the Big 3 and gone to alternate processors, they've got to make up that money somehow so maybe they're shaving us across the board?"

Let's see - a few hundred thousand a week suddenly walks off to your competition, how are you going to make it back? When a TGP's top couple of trades leave, he just skims a little harder and forces more to his other trades to make up for it... who's to say the processors aren't doing the same thing?

Anyone checked their username/password lists lately to see if there's a few more in there than are supposed to be? Might be an interesting revelation...

frankfortuna · 10-11-2002, 08:25 PM

I'm surprised that no one has brought this up, but couldn't a case be built against processors who are in fact skimming? After all, theft of services is a fradulent activity.

EscortBiz · 10-11-2002, 11:01 PM

very funny the last 2 days all of a sudden at about 1AM EST I get a few signups all at one whats going on here

is cant be declines all day since I get emails

Anyone any idea whats going on the past few days spoken to so many people with the same shit somethin aint right

NETbilling · 10-11-2002, 11:40 PM

Shoplifter,

We manage the .htpasswd file just as most processors do. We add and delete only the passwords that we are managing as to not disturb any passwords from other sources.

If you are in Canada, you can either incorporate here in the US or we can help you obtain and offshore merchant account to use with our system.

You can fill out the prequal whcih is step #1 at: http://www.netbilling.com/signup.html. Once we receive your submission, our sales department will contact you Monday.

Does that answer your questions? Let me know if you need assistance.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

EscortBiz · 10-12-2002, 02:11 PM

crazy patterens with ibill

Cyber3 · 10-12-2002, 05:46 PM

I am up on sales, best month ever! I have my own pay sites and use Ibill, if they are scrubbing they are not looking my way?

My charge backs are under half a percent, maybe they are hitting the accounts that have a bad charge back percentage?

I guess it would help to know which processors and accounts have taken a dive, but as Chocker pointed out it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds you?

Regards,

Kevin

Tipsy · 10-12-2002, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber3
...but as Chocker pointed out it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds you?

Regards,

Kevin

Very much so. Better maybe to switch short term to another sponsor and wait for the storm to die down before moving back again. Shame though. Got one sponsor who does well for me has dropped over 50% in conversion ratios from the same traffic and numbers are high enough for it to be a true drop - of course the fact that others I know have the same problems too helps confirm it. Oh well - they'll probably pick up again if not plenty others out there. For the reasons said though I wouldn't discuss the details in public.

SR · 10-12-2002, 06:08 PM

Things are weird here as well.....
Signups have been quite good untill today.
Could still have been better the other days but okay......
Today my signups completlly sucks while my traffic is a little less but it doesn't match my signups at all.......

The rest of the week me rebills have dropped with 35% or so maybe more...... while they are up to normal today.....
all very weird

Scully0325 · 10-13-2002, 11:17 PM

it's baseball

10-11-2002, 05:05 PM	#51
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Past few days hasn't been great but today has been fucking awful so far. Only certain sponsors though so I guess it depends who they use. Certainly iBill has been far lower than usual with a couple of the sponsors who use it. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

10-11-2002, 05:07 PM	#52
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	You'd think with so many jumping ship they'd try to get the balance right rather than just blanket declining and making even those hanging on wanna move. Crazy situation. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

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10-11-2002, 06:06 PM	#56
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10-11-2002, 07:01 PM	#57
hunterallturbohosting Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6	My sales are the equivalent of jerking off with boxing gloves on! anyone try to get any answers from thier billing company? I did and I got the old everything is just fine on our end bullshit. They suck

10-11-2002, 07:10 PM	#58
Jayson Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: CZ Posts: 554	It makes a lot of sense that scrubs are harder. Lets say the billers are expecting to lose volume because of this Visa crap. They have to keep their chargebacks within limits but as far as know, chargebacks are measured in the month they happen against the current volume, not back against the month the original charge occured. So if you think you are going to lose 25% of your business as an example, and a chargeback takes a few months to come through, your 1% chargeback ratio really needs to be 0.75%. So you need to be doing something about that now and not in 3 months time. __________________ Sapphic Cash - We Do It Right Last edited by Jayson; 10-11-2002 at 07:13 PM..

10-11-2002, 08:20 PM	#60
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	I'm amazed that no one has thought "Hey, I wonder if since all of these hundreds of webmasters have bailed out of the Big 3 and gone to alternate processors, they've got to make up that money somehow so maybe they're shaving us across the board?" Let's see - a few hundred thousand a week suddenly walks off to your competition, how are you going to make it back? When a TGP's top couple of trades leave, he just skims a little harder and forces more to his other trades to make up for it... who's to say the processors aren't doing the same thing? Anyone checked their username/password lists lately to see if there's a few more in there than are supposed to be? Might be an interesting revelation...

10-11-2002, 08:25 PM	#61
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	I'm surprised that no one has brought this up, but couldn't a case be built against processors who are in fact skimming? After all, theft of services is a fradulent activity.

10-11-2002, 11:01 PM	#62
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10-11-2002, 11:40 PM	#63
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Shoplifter, We manage the .htpasswd file just as most processors do. We add and delete only the passwords that we are managing as to not disturb any passwords from other sources. If you are in Canada, you can either incorporate here in the US or we can help you obtain and offshore merchant account to use with our system. You can fill out the prequal whcih is step #1 at: http://www.netbilling.com/signup.html. Once we receive your submission, our sales department will contact you Monday. Does that answer your questions? Let me know if you need assistance. Thank you, Mitch Farber __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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10-12-2002, 05:46 PM	#65
Cyber3 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 181	I am up on sales, best month ever! I have my own pay sites and use Ibill, if they are scrubbing they are not looking my way? My charge backs are under half a percent, maybe they are hitting the accounts that have a bad charge back percentage? I guess it would help to know which processors and accounts have taken a dive, but as Chocker pointed out it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds you? Regards, Kevin __________________ New Hosted Galleries www.glamourmodelsgonebad.com

10-12-2002, 06:08 PM	#67
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Things are weird here as well..... Signups have been quite good untill today. Could still have been better the other days but okay...... Today my signups completlly sucks while my traffic is a little less but it doesn't match my signups at all....... The rest of the week me rebills have dropped with 35% or so maybe more...... while they are up to normal today..... all very weird

10-13-2002, 11:17 PM	#68
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