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Choker 10-10-2002 10:01 PM

I'm getting my ASS scrubbed RAW
 
The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me.

frankfortuna 10-10-2002 10:05 PM

I'm not ashamed to say that our sales have been off by nearly 40% for the past 2 weeks. I've been wondering what the root cause is also.

Brown Bear 10-10-2002 10:05 PM

How would they "scrub more" even if they wanted to?

I mean, what extra criteria would they be including in the CC verification that would allow the to scrub harder?

Choder 10-10-2002 10:05 PM

I'm right there with you, dude. This week SUCKS!

Nice name too, btw

PornBroker 10-10-2002 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me.
Last 24 hrs my "inbox" is full from top to bottom
with fucking declines!!!!!!!!!!

:BangBang:

Choker 10-10-2002 10:11 PM

Quote:

I mean, what extra criteria would they be including in the CC verification that would allow the to scrub harder?
Not sure, but I sure see a lot of affiliate programs that say shit like "Less Scrubbing", "We Scrub less" etc,etc
Maybe they are scrubbing out countries with historically higher CB's they were not before? Common sense tells me they are watching their backs much more now than they were a week ago. They would be fools not to.

redshift 10-10-2002 10:11 PM

if the bastards are going to start scubbing harder
then just fuck it - it's hard enough to get a sales as it is


or maybe I'll convert one of my merchant accounts that I have to high risk, then I will have control of scubbing. it's cheaper any damn way

Choder 10-10-2002 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornBroker

Last 24 hrs my "inbox" is full from top to bottom
with fucking declines!!!!!!!!!!

:BangBang:

Time to actually buy your content? j/k :winkwink:

pimplink 10-10-2002 10:12 PM

If this is true, then they've been doing it since the past 2 months. I've seen a MASSIVE decline in sales [across 5 differing sites] and I do double opt in email marketing.

Brown Bear 10-10-2002 10:12 PM

The last 24 hours has sucked balls, but the rest of this week has been kick ass.

I have no idea what happened in the last 24 hrs

Spliceragain 10-10-2002 10:13 PM

Same thing here... It started on the 4th I think.
I hope this is not the "new way" cos I'm toast!

I was also wandering about the VISA thing cos the announcement came just about the same time.

cherrylula 10-10-2002 10:14 PM

I don't know about the scrubbing thing. But my take on the slowness of sales right now has to do with the fact that people are not spending too much $$$ as they are waiting for the US to bomb the fuck out of Iraq and another huge war possibly beginning.

Once they blow the fuck out of Iraq, spending will go up up up.

My GTZ 10-10-2002 10:17 PM

Tuesday's sales were very good, now I haven't had anything for Wednesday or Thursday.

Talk about shitty!

Choder 10-10-2002 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I don't know about the scrubbing thing. But my take on the slowness of sales right now has to do with the fact that people are not spending too much $$$ as they are waiting for the US to bomb the fuck out of Iraq and another huge war possibly beginning.

Once they blow the fuck out of Iraq, spending will go up up up.

This is supposed to be a recession proof industry!

sinmaster 10-10-2002 10:17 PM

My father and I were discussing the new visa regs today and the topic of scrubbing came up, I told him how my card was denied trying to buy content through a site using one of the 2 major processors, My card is good and always has been. After debating back and forth off to the computer we went, he tried to do the same purchase using one of the "no credit limit" platinum cards he has and guess what-----DECLINED
wtf? this is crazy if he wanted to he could buy a friggin' house with that card.

btw-- sign ups are down for me also

Dildozer 10-10-2002 10:18 PM

Sales ahve been down for me all week long also

nocostporn 10-10-2002 10:19 PM

once gas cost 13 cents a gallon people will be so fuckin happy they will just come home jerking until they have to get up and go to work again...it's going to be great! WAR BAAAABY!

frankfortuna 10-10-2002 10:21 PM

I hate to read between the lines, but I wonder if the situation we are discussing is what prompted Ox to begin offering a dialer earlier this week.

vik 10-10-2002 10:24 PM

Same here, sales are zilch this past week. Funny thing, I check my CCBILL stats, and they're showing no declines for the entire week - yah right!. What the hell are they doing with my declines, because my traffic hasn't changed.

:stoned

Nikkey 10-10-2002 10:25 PM

My sales suck as well! This blows!

Candyman69 10-10-2002 10:31 PM

still going strong here
maybe a 1-2 singups decrease
still hard to tell there are good weeks, and not AS good weeks hehe

MikeEP 10-10-2002 10:32 PM

Agreed ..sales have been weird the past two days for us as well. Someone sure turned up the scrub....

Choker 10-10-2002 10:32 PM

I think it's obvious they are indeed scrubbing harder. With all the crap going on I expect them to, but most likely they are in crisis management mode right now. Instead of just scrubbing the paysites with high CBs that deserve it, I bet they are scrubbing their entire portfolio harder. This is what is bullshit to me. Scrub the ones who deserve it, not the ones who don't. :321GFY

Theo 10-10-2002 10:34 PM

last 2-3 days are not good,not that bad though in order to claim such thing....i expect friday and weekend to recover

Mr.Fiction 10-10-2002 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
I hate to read between the lines, but I wonder if the situation we are discussing is what prompted ND to begin offering a dialer earlier this week.
I thought it was Ox? I didn't see dialer stats on Nasty - did I miss something?

Maybe they are scrubbing certain big players harder to try to make sure they are inside the ratios. Personally I have not seen a huge decline across the board, but I have seen certain programs nose dive.

Then again, maybe they're just using tranny looking girls on their straight site weekly updates. That hurts too. :)

frankfortuna 10-10-2002 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


I thought it was Ox? I didn't see dialer stats on Nasty - did I miss something?

Maybe they are scrubbing certain big players harder to try to make sure they are inside the ratios. Personally I have not seen a huge decline across the board, but I have seen certain programs nose dive.

Then again, maybe they're just using tranny looking girls on their straight site weekly updates. That hurts too. :)

Sorry, I mistyped.

Indeed 10-10-2002 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
The last 5 days signups have been a joke. Same traffic source even more clicks. Sites that I CONSISTANTLY could count on a certain amount of signups EVERY day are now showing me less than half the signups I usually average a day EVERY DAY of the week. And I'm not alone, I have had over 14 other guys tell me the exact same thing. Are these guys scrubbing more just to lower CBs since the heat is on them? When they go over their target CB rate on one site are they scrubbing more accross the board? Sure looks that way to me.
Which cc processor? Epoch, Ibill, CCbill or else?

Mr.Fiction 10-10-2002 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indeed


Which cc processor? Epoch, Ibill, CCbill or else?

Don't forget Jettis!

TheFLY 10-10-2002 10:55 PM

Yeah I'm getting similar reports from my associates... I had to drop some dead weight and start selling to different sites. Bail out on these scrubby programs! Don't let them fuck you -- there's lots of people buying traffic! It has been a lot of work... in the long run we will be running tighter ships.

Shark 10-10-2002 10:57 PM

I've had 3 average days in the middle of the last 10 with ibill.

Other than that, I've seen a very unusual, sharp decrease/plummet in signups either side of the middle of those 10 days.

There was a post relating to this earlier in the week

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=80715

Theo 10-10-2002 10:58 PM

thursday is never great for me,if the weekend will be shit i'll know something is not right since every weekend sponsors rule

Choker 10-10-2002 10:59 PM

Quote:

Which cc processor? Epoch, Ibill, CCbill or else?
I would rather not say since they are helping me put food in my kids mouths. Again I expect them to scrub harder now with all that is going on, in the long run this will be better for everyone, just don't scub the sites that don't need scrubbing, that's all I'm saying. That's like the teacher punishing the entire class because of just one or two bad apples.

Choder 10-10-2002 10:59 PM

Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell

Choker 10-10-2002 11:01 PM

Quote:

Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell
Neither, I buy and sell skimmed TGP and gallery traffic, thanks anyway man.

Ace-Ace 10-10-2002 11:09 PM

People are always horny; war-time or not...

My GTZ 10-10-2002 11:11 PM

Tuesday I had 8 sales with ARS, Wednesday and Thursday I had 0 sales with each day bringing in the same amount of traffic.

I know it's not on my end so it is either ARS or Ibill that has caused the problem for Wednesday and Thursday.

DamnFineOnline 10-10-2002 11:16 PM

I'm right there with you, I've seen a drop in sales of at least 50% on the same or greater amount of traffic. It's some bullsheeet!

My GTZ 10-10-2002 11:18 PM

Just when I think things are going to get better, they just take a shit the next day.

When will it ever be back to normal again?

Please, oh please I wish it where all better!

NETbilling 10-10-2002 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redshift
if the bastards are going to start scubbing harder
then just fuck it - it's hard enough to get a sales as it is


or maybe I'll convert one of my merchant accounts that I have to high risk, then I will have control of scubbing. it's cheaper any damn way

Redshift,

You are thinking smart! Give us a call and we will get you all setup. It's all about the control...

Mitch

TheFLY 10-10-2002 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choder
Choker, do you buy exit traffic or sell it? I have 404 traffic to sell
Send it to my trade script socalsweets.com -- you'll get back some useful traffic in return.

Indeed 10-11-2002 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling


Redshift,

You are thinking smart! Give us a call and we will get you all setup. It's all about the control...

Mitch

Mitch,
Do you accept people from Canada?

Pornwolf 10-11-2002 12:18 AM

I'm pretty sure he does. Mitch accepts everyone from Budhapest all the way to Butte, Montana!:winkwink:

EscortBiz 10-11-2002 12:22 AM

great guys

xanx 10-11-2002 12:30 AM

Damn.... What A time to be breaking into this industry. Maybe I'll just go stand on the corner with a sign. Those guys actually do a pretty good donation to car ratio. It's all about the cardboard sign.

:pimp

NETbilling 10-11-2002 12:40 AM

Indeed,

I'm sure we can help you as we have several Canadian merchants.

Please call Toll Free within the US: (888)357-8166, or Outside the US: (661)252-2456 so that we may answer all of your questions and get you setup with Netbilling Services.
We look forward to hearing from you. The sales office is open 9-5pst, Monday - Friday.

Xanx,

It is not a bad time at all!

Thank You, Mitch Farber

Brown Bear 10-11-2002 12:40 AM

My conversion ratio for the past 5 weeks = 1:180

My conversion ratio for Thursday October 10th = 1:1368

I have no idea what the fuck happened on Thursday.

This happens every so often and I have no explaination, hopefully Friday will be back to normal. It always does go back to normal. I guess I'll know in 24-48 hrs from now.

Spoonie Luv 10-11-2002 02:13 AM

So I guess this is a bad time to get into the biz?

xanx 10-11-2002 02:18 AM

Crankerville... sounds like where I'm from. Damn meth heads!!!

EscortBiz 10-11-2002 04:56 PM

The week has been good but the past 12 hours have been real BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Pornwolf 10-11-2002 04:59 PM

Fuckin 'ell! The Sky is Falling! What the heck is up with ratios this week! This wekend is not starting off well!


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