I charge back my (3) $600 Yahoo Listings - Yeahaaaaahh - GoFuckYourself.com

dav555add · 10-12-2002, 02:34 PM

motherfucking yahoo change the way they list and i go from being 1 out of 350 sites to beaing 1 out of 2 millions+ sites.
fuck them!

Rictor · 10-12-2002, 02:40 PM

Good luck with that. I don't remember them promising anything for that $500...even listing your site. All they promise is that they will review your site and maybe list it. They definitely don't guarantee that they will send you traffic even if you're listed. You agreed to their terms when you paid.

dav555add · 10-12-2002, 02:43 PM

the chargeback was finalized this morning, i got one of these platinum visa card, spent 1 hour on the phone with a visa rep, explained to them that yahoo voided the tos the minute they introduced the new listings, and after 4 days i get email telling me that the chargebacks are final and in my favor.
such a shame for yahoo, it sure is going to be a bitch for their chargeback ratio....
anyways, all of you who got suckered the same way should fight those yahoo fuckers

MikeyBoy · 10-12-2002, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
motherfucking yahoo change the way they list and i go from being 1 out of 350 sites to beaing 1 out of 2 millions+ sites.
fuck them!

fuck yeah I would have done the same
if I had paid for the listings

Morgan · 10-12-2002, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor
Good luck with that. I don't remember them promising anything for that $500...even listing your site. All they promise is that they will review your site and maybe list it. They definitely don't guarantee that they will send you traffic even if you're listed. You agreed to their terms when you paid.

Ya, I dont think he will get reembursed for that big of an amount. However, when people signup to our paysites, dont they agree to our terms?

SpeakEasy · 10-12-2002, 02:59 PM

Who would pay that 600.00 scam fee anyway??

dav555add · 10-12-2002, 03:03 PM

I did

but $600 a year for 100-250 se hits per hits is not that bad until they changed their listings

PeekHoles · 10-12-2002, 05:13 PM

Yeah yahoo has really pissed on alot of people. I hate the new format, I had 16 sites listed in the top 5 now there 40+ deep. The funny thing is some of the top 5 sites on my keywords are geocities sites, and the accounts have already been closed. And the spammers are having there way with google on alot of high traffic words. So much for yahoo's relevant search listings.

dav555add · 10-12-2002, 05:16 PM

Hey Forplaz
how's living in orlando?
i'm tired of expansive rents in south florida and i love mickey mouse!!!

PeekHoles · 10-12-2002, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dav555add
Hey Forplaz
how's living in orlando?
i'm tired of expansive rents in south florida and i love mickey mouse!!!

Yeah Mickey is cool my little girl lives there. Have you ever been to Islands of Adventure they have all the grown-up rides as weel as kid stuff. I live in Waterford Lakes it right down from UCF babe city

They got deals everywhere here far as housing goes.

Choder · 10-12-2002, 05:32 PM

I get the last laugh because my site is only 2 months old and I haven't been making good SE money for years like the rest of you! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh wait...fuck.

Mr.Fiction · 10-12-2002, 05:36 PM

If everyone charged back their listing, it could fuck Yahoo's merchant account up.

dav555add · 10-12-2002, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
If everyone charged back their listing, it could fuck Yahoo's merchant account up.

But remember, you are charging back because yahoo changed their listings. not because they didn't list your site...

next month in orlando

jimmyf · 10-12-2002, 05:57 PM

I didn't pay for a listing.... But before paid listing I use to get a shit pot of hit's from Yahoo..... and I remember posting here that Yahoo going to paid listing "it would never work"... I am starting to feel good though...am getting Yahoo hit again... just hope I get as many as before.... Watch Yahoo get back in the porn Biz.... they have stock holder's.... And the stock holder's don't give a shit about the good'ie 2 shoes that complained to Yahoo before about Yahoo getting into the porn Biz...... it's SEX....and it sell's...another thing... who was paying for listings? Paysite's mostly... Most Yahoo surfers want FREE porn at least some FREE porn... (Send'm back to me I'll sell'm) How many surfer's out there do you think have Yahoo as there home page.... Come on back baby am waiting.... "Am so Fucking happy"... People paid for listing...sent the surfer to pop up hell's... changed there home page... downloaded dialer to them... all kinds of crooked shit... I don't know if Yahoo got sued but some of the others search engines did....

Hell someone here posted about Google's key word going to a C/P site...

fiveyes · 10-12-2002, 06:03 PM

Well, I doubt I'll be charging back my $600-

it was a one-time fee when I paid for the listing,
they listed the site into both my primary and secondary directory choices,
even with the changes, I'm still getting 200+ daily from dir.yahoo.com,
and my site is still ranked in the top ten on 17 niche-specific search phrases (3 of those at #1 position) on search.yahoo.com.

PeekHoles · 10-12-2002, 06:12 PM

I'm just glad I have been working with google for 6 months far as my SEO skills. So hopefully next update I will be back up in the top 10 on Yahoo. I'm not charging mine back but not sure if I will renew either.

kenny · 10-12-2002, 06:14 PM

If alot of webmasters chargeback because of this, yahoo might be added to Visas TMF

mistressofnite · 10-12-2002, 06:47 PM

Yahell, change it back! Man, I lost a lot of traffic because of that jerk job. I really hate playing the SEO game, I always sucked at it

PeekHoles · 10-12-2002, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by mistressofnite
Yahell, change it back! Man, I lost a lot of traffic because of that jerk job. I really hate playing the SEO game, I always sucked at it

I know my work is never done.

SleazyDream · 10-12-2002, 08:03 PM

lets all get yahoo to charge $600 to our visas - than everyone at once cancel the account. their chargeback ratio will soar and visa will cancel their merchant accounts. Since they won't be able to get any revenue from visa anymore they won't be able to pay their employees or bandwidth and go under - leaving a HUGE void for us vultures to pick up and grow rich on.

Dildozer · 10-12-2002, 08:18 PM

Great!
So google can get even bigger and be the next yahoo? No thanks, Google is getting too big for my liking. Although Google brings most of everyone's traffic to their site (most of the SE hits anyway) it's always safer not to put all your eggs in the same basket.

PeekHoles · 10-12-2002, 08:21 PM

THANK YOU my words for sure.

Dragon Curve · 10-12-2002, 08:30 PM

Chargebacks shouldn't exist. That's a god damn joke. You pay money, your money is gone, simple as that. Or chargebacks should be a LOT harder to do. i.e. a formal investigation has to be done into who owes who money etc. I mean - how can someone use a credit card to buy something as if it's real cash and then say .. hey.. actually no, I don't want to pay for that any more, I'll do a chargeback.

It's bullshit and it shouldn't be allowed. Credit cards have to be the most poorly implemented system in the history of currency. Credit card fraud is so easy to do it's like stealing candy from a baby.

*sigh*

Keta · 10-12-2002, 08:48 PM

i honestly don't think its even worth paying to get listed on yahoo. most my sites got picked up by yahoo on its own after a month of being in business my free site gets 100-300 hits from yahoo every couple of days. so i never wasted my money on getting listed

pornJester · 10-12-2002, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Keta
i honestly don't think its even worth paying to get listed on yahoo. most my sites got picked up by yahoo on its own after a month of being in business my free site gets 100-300 hits from yahoo every couple of days. so i never wasted my money on getting listed

Yahoo's directory listing is different than ranking in google (which gets yahoo's overflow search traffic). What we are talking about in this thread is the directory listing which is supposed to rank above all google listings, but now this has changed and they are all mixed in together.

kenny · 10-12-2002, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
lets all get yahoo to charge $600 to our visas - than everyone at once cancel the account. their chargeback ratio will soar and visa will cancel their merchant accounts. Since they won't be able to get any revenue from visa anymore they won't be able to pay their employees or bandwidth and go under - leaving a HUGE void for us vultures to pick up and grow rich on.

A multi billion dollar void, I would feed of yahoos remains viciously..

Carrie · 10-12-2002, 10:55 PM

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So much for yahoo's relevant search listings

Yahoo hasn't been relevant for YEARS. That's how Google got to be so popular in the first place - because everything Yahell touches turns to shit.

Paul Markham · 10-12-2002, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Dragon Curve
Chargebacks shouldn't exist. That's a god damn joke. You pay money, your money is gone, simple as that. Or chargebacks should be a LOT harder to do. i.e. a formal investigation has to be done into who owes who money etc. I mean - how can someone use a credit card to buy something as if it's real cash and then say .. hey.. actually no, I don't want to pay for that any more, I'll do a chargeback.

It's bullshit and it shouldn't be allowed. Credit cards have to be the most poorly implemented system in the history of currency. Credit card fraud is so easy to do it's like stealing candy from a baby.

*sigh*

It's a way of buying something that you have not seen. Try charging back on a pair of slacks you bought in a shop and signed for.

Or are you saying the buyer has to accept a misleading statement and then if the goods are not as described or do not arrive just put up with it.

If this were the case few would use a CC on the net and everyones income woould suffer. It's because he can CB that he's confident to buy.

playa · 10-12-2002, 10:59 PM

oh shit for 600 bucks you only 200-300 hits a day?

damn i get that already and didn't even pay

jennycards · 10-13-2002, 03:57 AM

Having paid a one-time fee of $600 I am very happy with my listing on http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Virtual_Cards/Adult/ ... getting about 500 daily hits from there.

Though I guess it won't take long before Yahoo changes the rules for existing listings too :-/

fiveyes · 10-13-2002, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by playa
oh shit for 600 bucks you only 200-300 hits a day?

damn i get that already and didn't even pay

No, I get an extra 200-300 search engine hits daily. Even if I was paying for the listing every year, that's still less than a penny a click-through.

Keeping in mind that search engine traffic is gold, do you know of a better traffic deal?

Socks · 10-13-2002, 08:17 AM

We never paid for a Yahoo listing, but are now getting 300-400 people a day from Yahoo's search. Woop!

clickpimp · 10-13-2002, 08:52 AM

if your site is sticky enough that you always get productivity from SE traffic, then a diet that includes a well balanced pay per click SE campaign might help supplement any reindeer games played at Yahoogle.

Overture, Findwhat, Kanoodle, and Sex.com all provide guaranteed targeted SE traffic, by the click. Some are more expensive than others. Still, economical if SE's work and your sales are proven with them.

New sites and new users to Pay Per Click will have a learning curve that will either drive the frugal webmaster away cursing, or help him develop a tool that in a pinch will virtually guarantee revenue if a strategy is developed successfully.

this is not a wholehearted endorsement for ppc traffic - as it is not for all, only the patient and career minded among us.

10-12-2002, 05:32 PM	#11
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10-12-2002, 05:57 PM	#14
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	I didn't pay for a listing.... But before paid listing I use to get a shit pot of hit's from Yahoo..... and I remember posting here that Yahoo going to paid listing "it would never work"... I am starting to feel good though...am getting Yahoo hit again... just hope I get as many as before.... Watch Yahoo get back in the porn Biz.... they have stock holder's.... And the stock holder's don't give a shit about the good'ie 2 shoes that complained to Yahoo before about Yahoo getting into the porn Biz...... it's SEX....and it sell's...another thing... who was paying for listings? Paysite's mostly... Most Yahoo surfers want FREE porn at least some FREE porn... (Send'm back to me I'll sell'm) How many surfer's out there do you think have Yahoo as there home page.... Come on back baby am waiting.... "Am so Fucking happy"... People paid for listing...sent the surfer to pop up hell's... changed there home page... downloaded dialer to them... all kinds of crooked shit... I don't know if Yahoo got sued but some of the others search engines did.... Hell someone here posted about Google's key word going to a C/P site... __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting Last edited by jimmyf; 10-12-2002 at 05:59 PM..

10-12-2002, 06:03 PM	#15
fiveyes Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,680	Well, I doubt I'll be charging back my $600- it was a one-time fee when I paid for the listing, they listed the site into both my primary and secondary directory choices, even with the changes, I'm still getting 200+ daily from dir.yahoo.com, and my site is still ranked in the top ten on 17 niche-specific search phrases (3 of those at #1 position) on search.yahoo.com. __________________ <CENTER><A HREF="http://www.hot-off-bourbon.com/" target="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://www.hot-off-bourbon.com/images/hob-logosmall.jpg" border="0"></A> <FONT face="Comic Sans MS" SIZE="-1"><I>Mardi Gras, Spring Break, Wet-T, Night Club Action, UpSkirt, Oil Wrestling, Voyeur</I></FONT></CENTER>

10-12-2002, 06:12 PM	#16
PeekHoles Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,151	I'm just glad I have been working with google for 6 months far as my SEO skills. So hopefully next update I will be back up in the top 10 on Yahoo. I'm not charging mine back but not sure if I will renew either. Last edited by PeekHoles; 10-12-2002 at 06:16 PM..

10-12-2002, 06:14 PM	#17
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	If alot of webmasters chargeback because of this, yahoo might be added to Visas TMF __________________ 7

10-12-2002, 02:34 PM	#1
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	I charge back my (3) $600 Yahoo Listings - Yeahaaaaahh motherfucking yahoo change the way they list and i go from being 1 out of 350 sites to beaing 1 out of 2 millions+ sites. fuck them!

10-12-2002, 02:40 PM	#2
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Good luck with that. I don't remember them promising anything for that $500...even listing your site. All they promise is that they will review your site and maybe list it. They definitely don't guarantee that they will send you traffic even if you're listed. You agreed to their terms when you paid.

10-12-2002, 02:43 PM	#3
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	the chargeback was finalized this morning, i got one of these platinum visa card, spent 1 hour on the phone with a visa rep, explained to them that yahoo voided the tos the minute they introduced the new listings, and after 4 days i get email telling me that the chargebacks are final and in my favor. such a shame for yahoo, it sure is going to be a bitch for their chargeback ratio.... anyways, all of you who got suckered the same way should fight those yahoo fuckers

10-12-2002, 02:59 PM	#6
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	Who would pay that 600.00 scam fee anyway??

10-12-2002, 03:03 PM	#7
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	I did but $600 a year for 100-250 se hits per hits is not that bad until they changed their listings

10-12-2002, 05:13 PM	#8
PeekHoles Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,151	Yeah yahoo has really pissed on alot of people. I hate the new format, I had 16 sites listed in the top 5 now there 40+ deep. The funny thing is some of the top 5 sites on my keywords are geocities sites, and the accounts have already been closed. And the spammers are having there way with google on alot of high traffic words. So much for yahoo's relevant search listings.

10-12-2002, 05:16 PM	#9
dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	Hey Forplaz how's living in orlando? i'm tired of expansive rents in south florida and i love mickey mouse!!!

10-12-2002, 05:36 PM	#12
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	If everyone charged back their listing, it could fuck Yahoo's merchant account up.

10-12-2002, 06:47 PM	#18
mistressofnite Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 64	Yahell, change it back! Man, I lost a lot of traffic because of that jerk job. I really hate playing the SEO game, I always sucked at it

10-12-2002, 08:03 PM	#20
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	lets all get yahoo to charge $600 to our visas - than everyone at once cancel the account. their chargeback ratio will soar and visa will cancel their merchant accounts. Since they won't be able to get any revenue from visa anymore they won't be able to pay their employees or bandwidth and go under - leaving a HUGE void for us vultures to pick up and grow rich on. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

10-12-2002, 08:18 PM	#21
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	Great! So google can get even bigger and be the next yahoo? No thanks, Google is getting too big for my liking. Although Google brings most of everyone's traffic to their site (most of the SE hits anyway) it's always safer not to put all your eggs in the same basket. __________________ Spam link here

10-12-2002, 08:21 PM	#22
PeekHoles Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,151	THANK YOU my words for sure.

10-12-2002, 08:30 PM	#23
Dragon Curve Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 252	Chargebacks shouldn't exist. That's a god damn joke. You pay money, your money is gone, simple as that. Or chargebacks should be a LOT harder to do. i.e. a formal investigation has to be done into who owes who money etc. I mean - how can someone use a credit card to buy something as if it's real cash and then say .. hey.. actually no, I don't want to pay for that any more, I'll do a chargeback. It's bullshit and it shouldn't be allowed. Credit cards have to be the most poorly implemented system in the history of currency. Credit card fraud is so easy to do it's like stealing candy from a baby. sigh

10-12-2002, 08:48 PM	#24
Keta Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 3	i honestly don't think its even worth paying to get listed on yahoo. most my sites got picked up by yahoo on its own after a month of being in business my free site gets 100-300 hits from yahoo every couple of days. so i never wasted my money on getting listed

10-12-2002, 10:59 PM	#29
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	oh shit for 600 bucks you only 200-300 hits a day? damn i get that already and didn't even pay

10-13-2002, 03:57 AM	#30
jennycards Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,124	Having paid a one-time fee of $600 I am very happy with my listing on http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Virtual_Cards/Adult/ ... getting about 500 daily hits from there. Though I guess it won't take long before Yahoo changes the rules for existing listings too :-/ __________________ Make Money with true niche programs like Adult ECards - Pantyhose Fetish - Men in Pantyhose

10-13-2002, 08:17 AM	#32
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	We never paid for a Yahoo listing, but are now getting 300-400 people a day from Yahoo's search. Woop!

10-13-2002, 08:52 AM	#33
clickpimp Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,159	if your site is sticky enough that you always get productivity from SE traffic, then a diet that includes a well balanced pay per click SE campaign might help supplement any reindeer games played at Yahoogle. Overture, Findwhat, Kanoodle, and Sex.com all provide guaranteed targeted SE traffic, by the click. Some are more expensive than others. Still, economical if SE's work and your sales are proven with them. New sites and new users to Pay Per Click will have a learning curve that will either drive the frugal webmaster away cursing, or help him develop a tool that in a pinch will virtually guarantee revenue if a strategy is developed successfully. this is not a wholehearted endorsement for ppc traffic - as it is not for all, only the patient and career minded among us. __________________ eventually, earth will lose. enjoy it while it lasts.