*** OPINIONS on Whitelabels *** experts needed! - GoFuckYourself.com

AK · 04-17-2008, 11:39 PM

1. why do you need whitelabels?

2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you?

3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?
honestly, these 3 terms sometimes confuse me.

the purpose of this thread is to help affiliate programs who are thinking of offering whitelabel solutions,
to get an idea what affiliates are actually looking for.
(yes i know we can't make everyone happy... LOL)

also to help existing whitelabel offerings make improvement when necessary.
(we would definitely improve our tool when possible)

Datinggold-Dan · 04-18-2008, 09:17 AM

Ak The Bomb Boss

AK · 04-18-2008, 09:25 AM

lol Dan.

i hope we can get general opinions on this thread, it seems like every week i am seeing "spam me with white labels' threads, yet when i posted a thread like this, no one really cares?

lol

Asthma · 04-18-2008, 09:25 AM

What i really want know is who copy whos sig ?

faxxaff · 04-18-2008, 09:29 AM

Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion.

AK · 04-18-2008, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion.

good point, but something tells me that it is still going on, there are still demands out there from affiliates.

AK · 04-18-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Asthma

What i really want know is who copy whos sig ?

you can look at the what it says underneath the nicknames, who owns whom... LOL

sorry Dan, we had a deal

OMG Jim · 04-18-2008, 10:14 AM

1. why do you need whitelabels?

Programs that want to develop their brand name to the fullest extent want the perception that they can offer a broad range of products and webcams are an integral part of the mix. A true white label solution will give the program the opportunity to brand the product at all levels, i.e. their name and logo and design appears on all pages and consoles with no inference to the actually cam provider. This gives the impression that the cam program is in fact part of their brand.

2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you?

Being able to seamlessly integrate the programs graphics into the webcam system and not having the name or the webcam provider appear ANYWHERE.

3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?

White Label - Cam program provides the guts and allows the program using the cams to utilize ALL their own graphics.

Co-brand - Cam provider and the program using the product will BOTH have their names displayed in the graphics of the homepage as well as on all consoles and any other pages. The color & theme of the program using the cam product is generally adhered to giving the product the look and feel of all the programs pages.

Custom Skin - Can refer to the webcam company providing the graphics to be used with either the White Label or Co-branded Solution.

This is how I understand all of this AK. If anyone has a different answer please let us know so we can all be on the same page.

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Dwreck · 04-18-2008, 10:18 AM

Im just going to finish up my lunch and post Ak.

this should be informative yet spammy at the same time. I luv it!

AK · 04-18-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlmightyJim

1. why do you need whitelabels?

Programs that want to develop their brand name to the fullest extent want the perception that they can offer a broad range of products and webcams are an integral part of the mix. A true white label solution will give the program the opportunity to brand the product at all levels, i.e. their name and logo and design appears on all pages and consoles with no inference to the actually cam provider. This gives the impression that the cam program is in fact part of their brand.

2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you?

Being able to seamlessly integrate the programs graphics into the webcam system and not having the name or the webcam provider appear ANYWHERE.

3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?

White Label - Cam program provides the guts and allows the program using the cams to utilize ALL their own graphics.

Co-brand - Cam provider and the program using the product will BOTH have their names displayed in the graphics of the homepage as well as on all consoles and any other pages. The color & theme of the program using the cam product is generally adhered to giving the product the look and feel of all the programs pages.

Custom Skin - Can refer to the webcam company providing the graphics to be used with either the White Label or Co-branded Solution.

This is how I understand all of this AK. If anyone has a different answer please let us know so we can all be on the same page.

_

right on thanks Jim!!!
this is definitely what i am expecting.. OPINIONS.. not a discussions or arguments or what not.. just OPINIONS

faxxaff · 04-18-2008, 10:21 AM

google is banning whitelabels all over the place for dublicate content ..... so there is no need for having one.

AK · 04-18-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwreck

Im just going to finish up my lunch and post Ak.

this should be informative yet spammy at the same time. I luv it!

i think for affiliates, they should post what exactly are they looking for in a whitelabel.

but seriously, i see quite a few 'spam me with whitelabels' threads lately but never really be specific on what they are looking for, which im sure each program has different offers.

then for providers, they can say... hey we got this we got that.. but we don't have this, maybe we should add that.. something like that

AK · 04-18-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

google is banning whitelabels all over the place for dublicate content ..... so there is no need for having one.

okay so anyone who relies on SE traffic should not even think about whitelabeling then.

donnie · 04-18-2008, 10:45 AM

Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old “one price for everybody” $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?

kristin · 04-18-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion.

Not if you niche it out ... I have WLs for every niche and studio. Many of them are listed in Google, just change them up and feature different content on the front and you are good to go with Google.

AK · 04-18-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Not if you niche it out ... I have WLs for every niche and studio. Many of them are listed in Google, just change them up and feature different content on the front and you are good to go with Google.

i was actually waiting for you to post Kristin, that's why i put ***experts needed***
You seem to be doing a good job with your WL.
thanks for posting

AK · 04-18-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnie

Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old ?one price for everybody? $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?

no sig?
if you are really serious about being able to bill your own customers thru a whitelabel.
hit me up.

KnightMare · 04-18-2008, 11:02 AM

WhiteLables are good for branding your own sites, rather than someone else's.

Ask yourself...
"Why would I brand someone else AND send them traffic and money, when I can brand my own sites?"

It also helps keep the member on your site, as opposed to sending them to a different user experience.

vending_machine · 04-18-2008, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnie

Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old ?one price for everybody? $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?

Donnie, hit me up to discuss please

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Czech · 04-18-2008, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnie

Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell.

Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old “one price for everybody” $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from?

Good point donnie, as a matter of fact they are out there but mainly in cam/chat where you have your 100% white label and use your own billing solution. The way it works is more or less you are leasing thier feeds for lets say $1 per HCM (hard core minute) and you charge the amount you want to the end user. You can even have your very own affiliate program connected to this type of white label.

vod · 04-18-2008, 11:23 AM

1. why do you need whitelabels? to protect your brand, domain, logo, movies, images..etc..

2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? most customized...

3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?
the level of branding you do will depend on the term..

backend your brand with us, get free encoding, free bandwidth, free support and processing... and I will have our design department create a site for you, also include what domain we should use or website we should design look and feel of.

Here are some personal vod theaters, Scroll down the page and see the 3 sections of vod theatres, XonDemand brands, webmasters/sponsors brands and studio brand theatres... http://www.xodgroup.com/sitemap/personal_vod.html

at XonDemand we backend encoding, bandwidth, support and processing for 900+ studios and 60,000 DVD Movies with 10,000+ Free previews...

XonDemand reserves SSL for your domain to keep the processing and emailing on your domain when the surfer joins your site on your domain, they get an email from your domain etc..your brand, your domain, your content...

Now AK when can I get you a dating gold brand VOD theater ?

Czech · 04-18-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobMax

Good point donnie, as a matter of fact they are out there but mainly in cam/chat where you have your 100% white label and use your own billing solution. The way it works is more or less you are leasing thier feeds for lets say $1 per HCM (hard core minute) and you charge the amount you want to the end user. You can even have your very own affiliate program connected to this type of white label.

If you want an example take a look at this site www.chatcams4you.com by the way I am not associated with them.

DaddyHalbucks · 04-18-2008, 11:44 AM

Good posts, Jim and Kristin!

AK · 04-18-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod

1. why do you need whitelabels? to protect your brand, domain, logo, movies, images..etc..

2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? most customized...

3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin?
the level of branding you do will depend on the term..

backend your brand with us, get free encoding, free bandwidth, free support and processing... and I will have our design department create a site for you, also include what domain we should use or website we should design look and feel of.

Here are some personal vod theaters, Scroll down the page and see the 3 sections of vod theatres, XonDemand brands, webmasters/sponsors brands and studio brand theatres... http://www.xodgroup.com/sitemap/personal_vod.html

at XonDemand we backend encoding, bandwidth, support and processing for 900+ studios and 60,000 DVD Movies with 10,000+ Free previews...

XonDemand reserves SSL for your domain to keep the processing and emailing on your domain when the surfer joins your site on your domain, they get an email from your domain etc..your brand, your domain, your content...

Now AK when can I get you a dating gold brand VOD theater ?

soon i hope, we are talking with few candidates right now.

obviously we offer whitelabel for our cams (and soon dating too), so we have to put that into consideration.

good post sir!

04-17-2008, 11:39 PM	#1
AK MadZuma Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,436	* OPINIONS on Whitelabels * experts needed! 1. why do you need whitelabels? 2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? 3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin? honestly, these 3 terms sometimes confuse me. the purpose of this thread is to help affiliate programs who are thinking of offering whitelabel solutions, to get an idea what affiliates are actually looking for. (yes i know we can't make everyone happy... LOL) also to help existing whitelabel offerings make improvement when necessary. (we would definitely improve our tool when possible) __________________ Alfonsus Kusuma (AK) ak at madzuma.com skype me - alfonsus.com

04-18-2008, 09:25 AM	#3
AK MadZuma Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,436	lol Dan. i hope we can get general opinions on this thread, it seems like every week i am seeing "spam me with white labels' threads, yet when i posted a thread like this, no one really cares? lol __________________ Alfonsus Kusuma (AK) ak at madzuma.com skype me - alfonsus.com

04-18-2008, 09:25 AM	#4
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04-18-2008, 09:29 AM	#5
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	Whitelabels are a thing of the past. Google will easily sniff the duplicate content and kick your white label into black hell. It's pretty much the same problem like with vanity and subdomains ..... It worked well for a few years, but now it is out of fashion. __________________ Asian Babes

04-18-2008, 10:14 AM	#8
OMG Jim Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 3,153	1. why do you need whitelabels? Programs that want to develop their brand name to the fullest extent want the perception that they can offer a broad range of products and webcams are an integral part of the mix. A true white label solution will give the program the opportunity to brand the product at all levels, i.e. their name and logo and design appears on all pages and consoles with no inference to the actually cam provider. This gives the impression that the cam program is in fact part of their brand. 2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? Being able to seamlessly integrate the programs graphics into the webcam system and not having the name or the webcam provider appear ANYWHERE. 3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin? White Label - Cam program provides the guts and allows the program using the cams to utilize ALL their own graphics. Co-brand - Cam provider and the program using the product will BOTH have their names displayed in the graphics of the homepage as well as on all consoles and any other pages. The color & theme of the program using the cam product is generally adhered to giving the product the look and feel of all the programs pages. Custom Skin - Can refer to the webcam company providing the graphics to be used with either the White Label or Co-branded Solution. This is how I understand all of this AK. If anyone has a different answer please let us know so we can all be on the same page. _ __________________ ICQ: 254 914 537 - Skype: AlmightyJim

04-18-2008, 09:17 AM	#2
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04-18-2008, 10:18 AM	#9
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04-18-2008, 10:21 AM	#11
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	google is banning whitelabels all over the place for dublicate content ..... so there is no need for having one. __________________ Asian Babes

04-18-2008, 10:45 AM	#14
donnie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,630	Google banning white-label sites is really not a problem for me. I would love to find a decent cam or dating whitelabel solution that I could offer my existing members as an upsell from my members area. Reason I want whitelabel is simply because my members trust me and my sites. If it looks just like my other sites, they will assume it is mine and it makes it easier to sell. Ultimate whitelabel solution (in my eyes) would allow me to bill all customers my own way. Unfortunately many sponsors (and whitelabel providers) are still stuck with the traditional credit card payments and old “one price for everybody” $29.99 per month price structure. How many really offer something like direct debit payment? How many offer different price based on where surfers are coming from? Last edited by donnie; 04-18-2008 at 10:46 AM..

04-18-2008, 11:02 AM	#18
KnightMare So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 281	WhiteLables are good for branding your own sites, rather than someone else's. Ask yourself... "Why would I brand someone else AND send them traffic and money, when I can brand my own sites?" It also helps keep the member on your site, as opposed to sending them to a different user experience.

04-18-2008, 11:23 AM	#21
vod Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,510	1. why do you need whitelabels? to protect your brand, domain, logo, movies, images..etc.. 2. when you are looking to promote affiliate programs offering whitelabels, what are the most important aspects for you? most customized... 3. what is the difference among these terms: whitelabel, cobrand and/or customized skin? the level of branding you do will depend on the term.. backend your brand with us, get free encoding, free bandwidth, free support and processing... and I will have our design department create a site for you, also include what domain we should use or website we should design look and feel of. Here are some personal vod theaters, Scroll down the page and see the 3 sections of vod theatres, XonDemand brands, webmasters/sponsors brands and studio brand theatres... http://www.xodgroup.com/sitemap/personal_vod.html at XonDemand we backend encoding, bandwidth, support and processing for 900+ studios and 60,000 DVD Movies with 10,000+ Free previews... XonDemand reserves SSL for your domain to keep the processing and emailing on your domain when the surfer joins your site on your domain, they get an email from your domain etc..your brand, your domain, your content... Now AK when can I get you a dating gold brand VOD theater ? __________________ Adult Merchant Account

04-18-2008, 11:44 AM	#23
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