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Old 04-16-2008, 12:00 PM   #1
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U.S. court considers death for child rapists

Considers ? Fuck I cut his balls off and put salt on the cut.
Then keep him in constant but heavy pain that will last 24-48 hours.
It's a child the guy raped and the count considers ?
It's horiable enough to do it to adults but to children ?
WTF is wrong with the world when judges start to wonder about the type of punishment to give to chil rapist.
Give me 5 minutes with this guy and two electrods.
Pisses me off when children are treated like this.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:10 PM   #2
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It ruins the victim's life.

Kill the rapist.

Now on the other hand.. I don't like the idea of killing an innocent person if the court or police fuck up... Which they often do.

tricky subject.

I had a friend accused of something like 30 rapes and had nothing to do with them.. 100% innocent.. if he wasn't able to get one of the best lawyers to fight his case and they had the death penality for this stuff.. He an innocent person would have been killed..
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:14 PM   #3
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If he is guilty, death by torture is even too good for him.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:19 PM   #4
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Death is too good for him.

Stick him in a 8x8 cell for the rest of his natural life, occasionally force him to do hard labor that not one of us folk that have proved we can handle the responsibilities that come with freedom want to do, and constantly study him to figure out where society and genetics went wrong in producing that kind of bad apple, imho.

Meanwhile, if by some mathematical absurdity, he's shown to be innocent in the future, we can actually do something about it.

A system that destroys someone's life who destroyed someone's life to show that detroying someone's life is wrong is inherently flawed.
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It ruins the victim's life.

Kill the rapist.

Now on the other hand.. I don't like the idea of killing an innocent person if the court or police fuck up... Which they often do.

tricky subject.

I had a friend accused of something like 30 rapes and had nothing to do with them.. 100% innocent.. if he wasn't able to get one of the best lawyers to fight his case and they had the death penality for this stuff.. He an innocent person would have been killed..
accidentally accused of 30 rapes? that's a pretty big fuck up....
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I posted this on another forum that discussed the subject:
Death is too easy on this guy. This poor girl is going to spend the rest of her life dealing with happened to her, so therefore this scumbag should spend the rest of his, in prison, getting raped and beaten himself, until his soul is taken away from him and he dies an old, shattered, forgotten shell of a man.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:31 PM   #7
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Death is too good for him.

Stick him in a 8x8 cell for the rest of his natural life, occasionally force him to do hard labor that not one of us folk that have proved we can handle the responsibilities that come with freedom want to do, and constantly study him to figure out where society and genetics went wrong in producing that kind of bad apple, imho.

Meanwhile, if by some mathematical absurdity, he's shown to be innocent in the future, we can actually do something about it.

A system that destroys someone's life who destroyed someone's life to show that detroying someone's life is wrong is inherently flawed.
The first time I have ever agreed with you.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:34 PM   #8
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A law like that would kill off half the population of Los Angeles.

Any of you ever query the sex offenders database?
I was pretty surprised by the numbers of registered Minor Sex Offenders just within 2 miles of my own place. It was something like 67 people.

But I would not mind Pedo's getting killed, thats a good thing in my book.

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Not matter what they sentence a child rapist to, it usually ends up being death. Criminals have kids to.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:48 PM   #10
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No need for death penalty, just start putting them in general population with a different colored jumpsuit.

Everything will sort itself out naturally.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:54 PM   #11
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The first time I have ever agreed with you.
Not the first time... we, at least initially, supported the same presidential candidate, and I'm sure if you could just drop the hang-ups you have in regards to booze, you'd probably discover we agree on more than just that.

Glad to know we see eye-to-eye here, though. Seems a waste to snuff out a chance at greater enlightenment for the sake of 'revenge.'
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i recently read a story about a guy who had sex with another person in a public restroom, apparently someone walked in on them and reported them to the police. he was convicted of a lewd act and as such a sexual predator, he had to register as a sex offender which means he is listed on those databases. he cannot live anywhere near schools, public parks etc which means he had to move out of his neighborhood, there were only two small areas of the city near los angeles where he could live...
btw, being nude in public could get you in the same kind of trouble..
i am not saying pedos should get off, but there are some huge grey areas...
what in case of a 20 yo having consensual sex with a 17 yo... if she claimed rape to protect her name, then the older girl/guy should be sentenced to death?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:56 PM   #13
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he destroy the future of the child
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:01 PM   #14
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Actually it's not so easy in a real life... Look, about 40 years ago in the USSR, our government has sufficiently increased the jail time for rapists (for all of them). And you know what happened after? The rapists started killing their victims. So the number of murders has increased up to 26 (fuckin' twenty six) times!

Course after that the USSR government has turned it back and changed the jail time to the previous level. But during 2-3 years it was a real hell for police - corpses, corpses and corpses...
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The main thing we REALLY need to be careful of if we go down this path is: beyond the shadow of a doubt...we have to be absolute sure....
imagine a small town where you get on the bad side of a cop or two...
imagine being accused of crimes so heinous you have a lynch mob at your door before you're even allowed your day in court...
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This would be once case where I'd be in favor of waterboarding.


For about 20 years straight.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:38 PM   #17
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life in prison seems more than appropriate, hardened criminals hate child molestors. its likely the worst hell they can face

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I fuckin hate child molesters with the deepest part of me.....and they should be severely punished...

but......

no crime short of murder should earn a human the death penalty and anyone who thinks otherwise is a backwoods dumb fuckin retard.

not to mention the effects of something like this and its slippery slope into mainstream society which I will not even try to explain to you bumpkins.... but I will say this.

A person who rapes a child has a mental defect....just like a retard...just like a person with down syndrome. They are born with a defect.

we as a modern civilized society cannot start killing our retards ..... that as this would be completely uncivilized and barbaric and would set mankind back to the stone ages

maybe a long time in prison coupled with a treatment that works...IDK

but death???? man you guys are fuckin stupid
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:14 PM   #19
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I fuckin hate child molesters with the deepest part of me.....and they should be severely punished...

but......
no but !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kill him !
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that as this would be completely uncivilized and barbaric and would set mankind back to the stone ages
Since when do they deserve to have someone feel bad for them ? uncivilized and barbaric ???
I should actually ask WTF is wrong with you as what this guy did to a child is not uncivilized and barbaric ?
please...........................
Wrap the mother fucker in an American Flag and drop him in Iraq with a sign in arabic that says I LOVE GEORGE BUSH or COS AMAK which is pretty much blessing the people's mother if you get my drift.
He will then know what uncivilized and barbaric is.
The way these people get treated in the western world is a gift compare to what they should be getting.
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its so funny to see the lynchmob mentality in action...

an eye for an eye... if someone kills someone, they should die... if someone touches a kid, he should be touched by someone he's oppositely attracted to...

im actually somewhat embarrased to hear americans supporting mentality like this...

so quick to kill em all

so to with the girls who beat the defenseless girl's ass... life in prison? death?
lol give me a break.,.. am i the only one who received beatdowns like this and dished them out?

get fucking real... you ppl deserve a president like bush... and with minds like lemmings, no wonder everyone else in the world hates you
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its so funny to see the lynchmob mentality in action...

an eye for an eye... if someone kills someone, they should die... if someone touches a kid, he should be touched by someone he's oppositely attracted to...

im actually somewhat embarrased to hear americans supporting mentality like this...

so quick to kill em all

so to with the girls who beat the defenseless girl's ass... life in prison? death?
lol give me a break.,.. am i the only one who received beatdowns like this and dished them out?

get fucking real... you ppl deserve a president like bush... and with minds like lemmings, no wonder everyone else in the world hates you

I was actually on the team that says torture the mother fucker not kill him right away.
Killing him right away would be to good and he needs to suffer greatly then put a bullet in his head but not right away.
Make him look at the guy a few minutes so he knows what's coming to him. Then pull the trigger and have him hear CLICK with no bullets inside a few times.
Once he thinks you fucking around and there is no bullet, you pull it with a real live one inside right in his eye.
Now that is fair game.
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its so funny to see the lynchmob mentality in action...

an eye for an eye... if someone kills someone, they should die... if someone touches a kid, he should be touched by someone he's oppositely attracted to...

im actually somewhat embarrased to hear americans supporting mentality like this...
And what would you suggest instead? Counseling? A time-out perhaps? How about we just have them write on the blackboard a whole bunch of times that they like won't do it again?

I don't know all the answers either, but I do know that in situations such as these there's no way in hell that we should even think about letting the perp(s) see the light of day until after the victim has fully recovered. If that translates into a life sentence, then so be it.

What's fair is fair, right?
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We just had 400+ kids taken from their Mormon parents in Texas due to alleged underage sexual abuse. We have had over a 1,000 priest accused of sexual abuse of our children.

Shall we put these folks to death as well? What about those that covered up the abuses?

Where would you draw the lines?
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I fuckin hate child molesters with the deepest part of me.....and they should be severely punished...

but......

no crime short of murder should earn a human the death penalty and anyone who thinks otherwise is a backwoods dumb fuckin retard.

not to mention the effects of something like this and its slippery slope into mainstream society which I will not even try to explain to you bumpkins.... but I will say this.

A person who rapes a child has a mental defect....just like a retard...just like a person with down syndrome. They are born with a defect.

we as a modern civilized society cannot start killing our retards ..... that as this would be completely uncivilized and barbaric and would set mankind back to the stone ages

maybe a long time in prison coupled with a treatment that works...IDK

but death???? man you guys are fuckin stupid
Spoken like a person that has never been molested or bothered before.

I guess I am one of the backwoods dumb fuckin retard people because I believe if you are 100% proven guilty, they should kill you off.

Why leave them in our society with the possibility of raping or molesting our children again ????

Why pay for them to live in prison for the rest of their lives????

These people are the worst of the worst , Kill them and get them out of our society.

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I'm so fucking pissed off at all the idiots shouting that it destroys a child's life, that it's the worst thing that can possibly happen, that the victim's childhood is taken away, etc.

Do these idiots even realize that simply by saying it over and over again, they are actually causing it?

Victims are being indoctrinated with the idea that their life has been utterly destroyed. That is NOT a good thing. It reinforces the trauma and destroys hope.

Here's a perfect example of why it's so bad:

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"A lot of people think there should not be the death penalty [in this case] because the child survives," said Kate Bartholomew, a sex crimes prosecutor in New Orleans. "In my opinion the rape of a child is more heinous and more hideous than a homicide."
Just fucking great. This idiot has just managed to tell victims that it would have been better had they been murdered. I'm sure that'll help them a great deal in dealing with the trauma, and building satisfying lives despite what happened.
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well, there's always the side that I wouldn't want too much damage done to...

In the situations where you're 20 and a 15 y/o looks 18+ and you fuck her and her parents file charges on you... those kind of situations penalties are pretty harsh. I never card a girl before fucking her and if its something like a 18+ bar and she gets in... I should be able to feel safe!
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Why pay for them to live in prison for the rest of their lives????
Under our current system it actually costs more - a lot more - to execute these bastards than it does to lock them up forever.

Having said that, I would still favor execution over anything less than a full life sentence.
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Execute, but do it with a bullet... Way cheaper and more humane then electricity....
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As the majority of child molesters were themselves molested as children...

Why don't you just execute molested children?*

This will save yourselves the time and money thinking, studying and finding a human just and compassionate solution to the problem.



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Well if the U.S. court does this they will save money. Processing,feeding, etc. into the criminal system and providing extra security for them once inside costs money...they end up dead anyways.

Seriously the survival rate of a child rapist is slim in jail. Once other inmates learn that a person has done crimes against children it is considered a death penalty...by other inmates. It is a pride among inmates to torture child rapists then perform the most gruesome of deaths...like sausage dicing with a shank or "nut cracking" when they hold down the guy spread eagle then stomp with the heel till explosion

If they want to do it politically and not get their hands dirty and efficiently executive just announce that this person is a molester to the other inmates when processing them in or better yet have them wear special clothing.
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