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Holly 03-27-2008 06:15 AM

You dicked him around for weeks, so stop with the "5 mins" talk.

If you are smart, or serious about your business, this is what you'll do:

*Send him the link to the stuff he paid for.

*Give him the rest of the banners for no charge, because you didn't make your deadlines and caused him so much hassle.

*Apologize for the whole mess and hope he accepts it.

*Never, ever tell a client about all your personal bullshit and problems. It's no excuse and no one gives a shit, anyway.


My guess is you're probably very young and you'll take the "fuck that shit" approach. If so, log out, create a new board name, get a new domain, and start over. Because your design career here is probably done, otherwise.

Holly 03-27-2008 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13981421)
The kid does good work. Much better than a lot of the others posting here.

You defending him is pretty much the equivalent of Adolph's hiring Jeffrey Dahmer to endorse their meat tenderizer. I don't think anyone is buying it.

candyflip 03-27-2008 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly (Post 13984301)
You defending him is pretty much the equivalent of Adolph's hiring Jeffrey Dahmer to endorse their meat tenderizer. I don't think anyone is buying it.

I couldn't care less what you think about me, but he puts out a much better product that most of the hacks here calling themselves "designers". That much is easy to see.

Holly 03-27-2008 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13984491)
I couldn't care less what you think about me, but he puts out a much better product that most of the hacks here calling themselves "designers". That much is easy to see.

I don't care if he shits 24 karat banners out of his ass. If it takes him 2 weeks to deliver something he promised to have done in less than 24 hours, then he's a sorry excuse for a designer. And when he repeatedly writes, "I'll be done by tonight" and doesn't deliver, it also makes him a liar. Which is right up your alley, of course.

DamianJ 03-27-2008 07:49 AM

Jesus.

This is like a lesson in how to not do marketing.

It doesn't matter the ins and outs. Bannerant looks like an untrustworthy child.

Arguing like this over, what, 100 bucks?

I am starting 3 new aff progs in the next 2 months. Will need hundreds of banners. Won't be calling Bannerant.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-27-2008 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 13984275)
If you can show me samples of work that are anything close to his, I have a TON of banner work that needs to be done. I don't want another hack job.

Hit me up, lets work something out...

dropped9 03-27-2008 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 13984557)
Hit me up, lets work something out...

Be real careful when dealing with candyflip. He is a thief and will stab you in the back any chance he gets. Make sure you have clear and written agreement with him for deadlines and what he will provide if you decide to do business with him.


Candyflip: Stop copying and reselling shit!

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=220010


FletchXXX....wassup with candyflip?

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=765109


Fuck you Powercum and Candyflip

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=186866

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-27-2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13984639)
Be real careful when dealing with candyflip. He is a thief and will stab you in the back any chance he gets. Make sure you have clear and written agreement with him for deadlines and what he will provide if you decide to do business with him.


Candyflip: Stop copying and reselling shit!

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=220010


FletchXXX....wassup with candyflip?

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=765109


Fuck you Powercum and Candyflip

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=186866

Thanks for the heads up :thumbsup

I had candydick figured out the first day I came across him..

I would make him prepay, but other then that I think he pretty much has learned his lesson and is out of the fucking people over days...

He is still a major weesle though...:1orglaugh

SexualDragon 03-27-2008 09:13 AM

Note to self: Never look for a roommate on craigslist

uno 03-27-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizarrejan (Post 13982742)
any time to drop in on Cyprus?

I dunno I'll have to look at the itinerary.

basschick 03-27-2008 06:27 PM

i'd like to see those samples... i have several clients who will be needing some banners...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Clark (Post 13983502)
I could have your 20 banners delivered Friday morning btw...

And we have never missed a deadline :)


IamShaider 03-27-2008 06:41 PM

is it really that fucking hard to send the zips? just wondering how this mess got so fucking big

MegachopsMcNasty 03-27-2008 07:58 PM

Hey Quantum,

That really sucks about the banners. Theres no excuse for stuff like this and it's folks like him that give the rest of us designers a bad name.

I'll do the banners you're missing for free and I can have them done for saturday. just check out my site for some of my recent banner designs i've done. If you're interested feel free to hit me up via icq or email.

payd2purv 03-27-2008 08:31 PM

Designers on this forum.

STOP DOING WORK FOR FREE
STOP DOING WORK FOR $10

You are screwing the rest of us designers!

Yes you are desperate for work we get it.

I remember when I was getting $100+ (usually more) for *1* 624x80 sized banner.

quantum-x 03-27-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegachopsMcNasty (Post 13988208)
Hey Quantum,

That really sucks about the banners. Theres no excuse for stuff like this and it's folks like him that give the rest of us designers a bad name.

I'll do the banners you're missing for free and I can have them done for saturday. just check out my site for some of my recent banner designs i've done. If you're interested feel free to hit me up via icq or email.

I appreciate the gesture - but I didn't make this thread to try to get anything for free - just a head's up about my experiences.

I will be needing more stuff done soon - will use this thread for a base of working out who to do business with, and will check out portfolios.

Thank you again mate.

rowan 03-28-2008 12:33 AM

I can sympathise with BannerAnt not wanting to deliver the goods without payment, but it's not like quantum-x is an unknown n00b with 3 posts and of no fixed abode. (Wait... did I get that last bit right? ;) )

BA, being super stubborn is going to hurt your business in the long run. Anyone reasonable would agree that it would not take an appreciable amount of time or effort to re-send a link to the stuff that has already been paid for. If he asked for it 2 years down the track, then that may be a different matter, but this was only 2 weeks later.

I'm not sure whether the link posted here was for the first set or the whole lot, but if it's the former then hows about posting the rest and moving on. You're just hurting your biz by keeping this thread alive.

Zorgman 03-28-2008 02:37 AM

I purchase 4 banners from BannerAnt months ago, he told me 1-2 days and each day he keep saying "tonight or tomorrow" and this went on for 7 days.
I paid up front and I did get the banners but it was only after I threaton to get my paypal money back. It took 30 minutes after that.

spunkmister 03-28-2008 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 13988816)
I purchase 4 banners from BannerAnt months ago, he told me 1-2 days and each day he keep saying "tonight or tomorrow" and this went on for 7 days.
I paid up front and I did get the banners but it was only after I threaton to get my paypal money back. It took 30 minutes after that.

lol yeah its amazing how fast someone can work where there is a threat of losing the payment they received.

Chio 03-28-2008 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BannerAnt (Post 13982597)
yeah, you were being a prick when I said I need a few more mins to animate a couple more and you cancelled the deal. That's prickish if you ask me.

you disagree with that?

a head's up huh? Anyone that reads what I've been dealing with...should be able to understand why things were a bit late.

I read through this entire thread and you have to be the dumbest business person ever.

Here's a tip. The client is always right (psst... Even if you think they're wrong) The drama this thread created will likely ensure that you lost a ton of business.

If you had instead come into the thread and been a man (not giving excuses) and said something to the effect... "You know what? you're right quantum (even if you didn't think he was) and to make up for the delays I'm going to give you the complete order (including the additional animated banners you rushed to finish to try to save the order) and won't charge you because of the delays"

This would not only have saved you the grief of looking like a tool but likely would have garnered you much more business (remember kids business = money) in the long run.

ce_rob 04-02-2008 05:33 PM

has anyone spoken to him lately/at all? i've been waiting for something for about three months now...

ce_rob 04-04-2008 07:49 PM

he's now completely ignoring my ICQs and emails whereas before, he'd at least give me an excuse and ask for more time...

...it's been over two months since he was to have completed the work i asked of him.:321GFY

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