The first bunch he got on time and the second have been delayed because of what I've been having to deal with. He gave me a final deadline today for the second batch and I was a few minutes late having them to him...which he didn't pay anything upfront for either.

for the record, I didn't curse at you once...until you started with me.

When you didn't read the bit above, you missed the part about everything being 14 days late. When I finally put down the hammer, and gave him 4+ hours, which he agreed to, he was again late, and again said it would be 10 minutes.
10 minutes later, he said that he still wasn't done.

At that point, I told him I wanted links to previously completed work, which he refused to give.

Whether he has the stuff done now, stupidly over schedule, I don't really care. But, my inbox still doesn't have a zip of the 10 banners I paid for. The line has to be drawn somewhere. 14 days of promises is enough.

Really honestly my final post here.

anyway, i'm done witht his thread...trying to get my work caught up and finished before i move this weekend. thanks for being understanding.

The kid does good work. Much better than a lot of the others posting here.

They were done and you were sent the screenshot.

Not on time, not when you promised.
Post the link to the zip of the 10 you were paid for here. It's the least you can do.

And yes, it's a pity, because the designs he does are decent. but... :helpme

Thanks for the comment. It's been a hell of a last few months, my luck has been awful...and I apologize to anyone I got behind in work with...and once i get settled and in my new place and can focus strictly on work...there will be no issues like this coming up again.

After this I'd be shocked if anyone paid you upfront for any of your work considering you seem reluctant to deliver work even after its paid for(the 10 banners). Not even mentioning your unforseen delays.

What are you talking about? At not one point was I paid upfront for any part of this project.

I designed 10 banners and got paid for them afterwards.

Designed 10 more and was a few minutes late today on the last deadline he gave me...and didn't get paid for them.

fiddy :glugglug

Completed Banners.

http://www.thickassbabes.com/banners.jpg

Ugh, here we go again.

You were paid for the first 10 on March 18.

Today, March 26, you still had not delivered. How this is a few minutes late boggles the mind.

Please post the link to the zip file of the 10 banners.

You are refusing to send him the completed work that he did pay for. How are you not grasping that?

Even if he did pay you up front, would that have changed the outcome? You continually led him on with unrealistic timeframes and eventually there was a straw that broke the camel's back. He put up with it for a long time for a simple job, right up to the end.

Send him the 10 banners he DID pay for. How hard is that? He was a lot more understanding than most would be in a similar situation.

I haven't delivered because you're refusing to pay me, kinda simple why I won't send them...everyone can see the screenshots...send me my money and you'll get them, it's quite simple.

Put down the shovel, the hole is deep enough. :2 cents:

It would have changed the outcome, because I'd have the money for the work I did. Work was only a few minutes late today, on the final deadline...he sends me the money he'll get everything I did. He was already sent the url to the banners and the zip when the first project was completed. I have no time whatsoever with everything I've been dealing with and need the cash bad for my move...this could all be resolved pretty quickly.

GFY is a natural reserve for llamas. :winkwink:

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For some reason I think him asking for his work with a solid deadline actually hastened you to finish it on your extremely extended timeline which you were late on time and time and time and time again.

Send him the work he already paid for. You say you sent it, he says he never received it, toss him the link to the 10 banners he paid for on the 18th for work that WAS paid for. No harm in that.

Let me repost this:
Answer ONLY in yes or no.

1: Was the work finished on time.
2: Did I pay you for 10 banners.
3: Will you post the link to the zip for those banners paid for?

banner Ant he paid you a 50% deposit. send him the link to the files once he has the files then he should pay you the balance due...just my 2cents

I get paid for the work I did I'll resend everything. He's just trying to make the situation look worse. You think someone who's making such a big deal about the timeframe and seems hard up for the banners...wouldn't have downloaded them when I sent them to him originally? And what exactly do you think he sent me the money for on the 18th if he didn't get the banners? He's already said several times in this thread the first batch were done on the 18th. So obviously he got them. For whatever reason, if he didn't download them...I'll resend them for $120, the amount owing for the final 10 banners I did.

He didn't pay a 50% deposit. HE PAID NOTHING UPFRONT. He only paid for the first 10 banners when they were completed and he got them...on the 18th, he's even said that.

I don't have the link for them still
SEND ME THE LINK FOR WHAT I HAVE PAID FOR.

Since he claims he paid ... just sent him the zip files what he paid for. end of story.


What the fuck are you two arguing about again ???!?????

Sure...when you pay me for the work I did.

So .... he didn't pay ?

Not for all the work I did...he wants it all, he can pay me the money he owes me.


quantum-x

Send me my $120 through ePassporte, ICQ me when you have, and I'll send you over the zip for everything right away.

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I paid him March 18

Listen Jay, POST THE FUCKING LINK TO MY BANNERS WHICH I PAID FOR.

I fucking paid you weeks ago for work. Give me my banners.


Don't even think you can hold PAID WORK ransom because YOU MISSED YOUR DEADLINE BY WEEKS

I don't know how this can be any more clear.

the work was done a few minutes after the final deadline you gave me today (minutes). Give me the money for the work and you'll get everything.

you want to hold out, i'll hold out. you owe me money, i owe you banners...let's end it.

You're not getting the picture, and I'm tired of arguing with you.
You were FOURTEEN DAYS over deadline. Not minutes.

You have been PAID FOR 10 BANNERS.
Deliver them to me.

I owe you NOTHING

Did you give me a final deadline today? you did and I was *minutes* late. My time isn't free...and as I said before, for someone who's acting like time matters and you were in such a hurry to get them...you should have downloaded them when they were sent to you on the 18th...you only paid after they were sent to you.

So you don't want to pay me for the banners i designed, then the $120 is for the time I didn't have to waste designing them.

You're the one who started arguing, so I'm glad you're stopping. A few minutes late on the last deadline you gave me today wasn't worth making this much bullshit over.

and they weren't 14 days over the deadline...you placed the order on the 13th...and said you were in no hurry. So how was the deadline somehow a day before you even placed the order? I'm confused.

Send me my money...I'll send the banners, Cheers!

You just don't get it. You seriously don't get it.
When you promise something 'today', every day, for 13 days, you're over deadline.
Yo, thief, give me my banners.

I don't know what to say, except that I'm happy I'm not the only one reading this thread :thumbsup

dead·line
–noun
1. the time by which something must be finished or submitted; the latest time for finishing something.
2. a line or limit that must not be passed.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deadline

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My :2 cents:

If you don't meet a deadline... even if you only miss it by a couple of _seconds_, you haven't lived up to your end of the deal, and the deal is off the table. It doesn't matter how much work you put into it or what personal problems you've endured. You failed to live up to your end of the deal, and, at that point, the deal is _only_ extended at the pleasure of the other party.

Quantum-X doesn't seem to want the late goods, and he has every right to refuse paying for them, provided he's also refusing to receive them... which it also seems he is.

So, that settled, there's the (what's now a) separate matter of the money that's already exchanged hands.

Insofar as I see it, your only real recourses here are to either provide him with the file he's requesting (the "I already gave it to you once" argument is kinda asinine, I think... (hopefully, you see it, too now that you (again, hopefully) understand what a "deadline" is).... and only speaks to a severe lack of customer service skills - especially considering you have copies on-hand), or satisfy the situation by giving him back all monies he's given you for the associated project, thereby terminating all current relations.

But, then what the hell do I know about running your business?

Again... only my :2 cents:

I'm not really understanding this ...

BannerAnt was paid for the 10 banners, which he admits in a post on the 2nd page ... only ... he then contradicts himself by saying he wants to be paid ...

BannerAnt ... hand over the banners that the $120 that you have been paid accounts for. Since you acknowledged you have been paid that $120 in your post ...

So you say he DID pay for the first 10 banners.

Right ... ? Agree? Cool :)

Now send him the 10 banners. Just those 10 he paid for ... you know ... the ones I just quoted you acknowledging him paying for ;)

I'd never normally get involved in this kinda thing coz it's art related but dude, you're going to bury yourself and end up with NO clients at this rate!

Yes, and with all the bullshit I've been dealing with...things with the final 10 got delayed...and I was given a final deadline today to have them done. I was done animating them (a few mins after the deadline) when he basically told me to fuck off that he didn't want them. The guy was obviously in no rush for the banners, since he didn't download the zip file I sent him over a week beforehand for the first 10 banners...and him knowing the situation I've been dealing with, and that I need the cash for my move...5 mins more shouldn't have turned into this big on an issue. I got the job 13 days ago, and minus the other weekend I was away and easter weekend...there's 6 days I wasn't working. So basically he's pissed that it took a week to get his 20 banners...which the majority of the time I'd been trying to find a new place to live and he knew that. So to know today that I was within minutes of having everything completed and then him cancelling the deal...was kinda prickish, unless you're not a very understanding person. I know work's work and this is a business, but I've been dealing with something that's been totally out of my hands...and I'd assume anyone that was in no hurry for something could understand that.

I put my time in and got the banners done, I expect to get paid. We both expect something...and we should complete this. I'm not going work for nothing.

This thread wins the Donny Long Award for Most Annoying Thread of the Day.

You have lost FAR more than the money you want from him with this attitude. How can you even pretend this is his fault? Send him a link to what has been paid for, nimrod. The potential customers that may be stupid enough to still use you are watching how you handle yourself. Make it right. :2 cents: