A friend needs help. drugs. should I help? - GoFuckYourself.com

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 07:59 PM

I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

webmasterchecks · 03-24-2008, 08:01 PM

you should get some other webmaster friends to help, get a group together, the ones they have had beers with and are close with

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by webmasterchecks

you should get some other webmaster friends to help, get a group together, the ones they have had beers with and are close with

i might actually do this

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 03-24-2008, 08:02 PM

They have to want to help themselves. An intervention doesnt work if the person is not receptive..for them to be receptive, they have to be at the point of wanting help.

baddog · 03-24-2008, 08:02 PM

Can I take pictures of it? Who will be the sponsor?

Jace · 03-24-2008, 08:03 PM

they have to want help, nothing you will be able to do unless they are wanting to help themselves

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

They have to want to help themselves. An intervention doesnt work if the person is not receptive..for them to be receptive, they have to be at the point of wanting help.

i'm hoping an intervention with a pile of their friends that love this person will help to wake this person up into realizing they DO in fact have a problem.

JA$ON · 03-24-2008, 08:07 PM

You should include someone sober. Someone in recovery who has been where they have been and pulled out of it. The key is to let them know that if the WANT help, that it is there. The choice to take advantage of that help will have to be theirs.

Good luck to your friend

The Adult Broker · 03-24-2008, 08:10 PM

tell them but not in phoenix for the world to know. it's a private matter. close friends and family only

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker

tell them but not in phoenix for the world to know. it's a private matter. close friends and family only

they consider most of the people in online adult their friends and family - thus doing it in phoenix. most everyone they care about is there.

Anna_Miller · 03-24-2008, 08:15 PM

Bruce & I actually have tried this before. On multiple firends. It has gone two ways: 1. Really badly! Because she wasn't ready to hear it. After a few months months, she came around and agreed that she was out of control and needed help. She said we may not have gone about it the right way but she thanked us for caring enough to speak up. And 2. They blew us off and said they were ok and then avoided us.

If you care you should let them know you think its affecting them.

SHANESWORLD · 03-24-2008, 08:15 PM

glad i quit partying and drinking back in july of last year. otherwise, shit, people would for sure think it was me. LOLLLLLL.

punker barbie · 03-24-2008, 08:16 PM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

good luck with your friend.

IllTestYourGirls · 03-24-2008, 08:16 PM

If they are not ready to get clean then there is nothing you can do but confront them like you have said. Sounds like you are on the right track. But if they dont want to be clean no one can make them.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

they consider most of the people in online adult their friends and family - thus doing it in phoenix. most everyone they care about is there.

baddog · 03-24-2008, 08:17 PM

Serious question, what is their drug of choice?

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

If they are not ready to get clean then there is nothing you can do but confront them like you have said. Sounds like you are on the right track. But if they dont want to be clean no one can make them.

there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....

tony286 · 03-24-2008, 08:20 PM

Until they have their moment of clarity, your wasting your time.

baddog · 03-24-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....

There are laws against kidnapping in AZ.

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Serious question, what is their drug of choice?

my understanding is they have tried a lot of things but powder seems to be what they like

Stuntpig · 03-24-2008, 08:23 PM

Scott,

I can quit anytime I want, I just dont want to quit yet.
Is this about the time I lost my pants when we were skinny dipping in Curacao?
Or the time I sold you to that Ladyboy in Bangkok?
OK, I was drunk. And the Lexipro didnt help.
But I found my pants, and I bought you back ( Even made a couple bucks on the deal).
And now I only drink clear liquors. No more bourbon, whisky, tequila (cept silver) or that blue stuff that makes me so violent.
And they have reduced the meds to the point where I can legally drive in Mexico.

IllTestYourGirls · 03-24-2008, 08:23 PM

It is their choice not yours. Dont "haul away" but have the center ready after the intervention so you can send them directly after.

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

There are laws against kidnapping in AZ.

my understanding in how this company does it is thatthey catch them in the act(set up) and then they are presented with a choice when caught with an illegial substance..... rehab or jail.....

Peaches · 03-24-2008, 08:25 PM

If you're going to start interventions for the webmasters who do "too much" coke, you're going to be pretty darned busy.

Personally I wouldn't do it at Phoenix - I doubt CCBill wants the reputation of "The forum that had the drug intervention". Wait until it's over and do it right. There are intervention specialists you can talk to.

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

If you're going to start interventions for the webmasters who do "too much" coke, you're going to be pretty darned busy.

Personally I wouldn't do it at Phoenix - I doubt CCBill wants the reputation of "The forum that had the drug intervention". Wait until it's over and do it right. There are intervention specialists you can talk to.

we won't let the media know who it is out of respect for ccbill.

no one will know what happened - it'll occur in a closed room and the person will be quietly removed when we go forward with it.

Peaches · 03-24-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

we won't let the media know who it is out of respect for ccbill.

no one will know what happened - it'll occur in a closed room and the person will be quietly removed when we go forward with it.

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my understanding in how this company does it is thatthey catch them in the act(set up) and then they are presented with a choice when caught with an illegial substance..... rehab or jail.....

When they "catch" this person, the chances that they are going to "catch" many others is quite high. Plus media has nothing to do with it. All it takes is one person to know about it and it will be all over the show and then the entire industry within a week.

Waiting until they get home would be better and like I said, hire someone who does this professionally.

I respect what you're doing and you're a damn good friend for doing it and your heart's in the right place for sure - just make sure you do it the right way. Getting them to accept going to rehab is the hardest thing and being at a show when his/her buddies are partying right along with them will make it harder for them to make that decision.

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

When they "catch" this person, the chances that they are going to "catch" many others is quite high. Plus media has nothing to do with it. All it takes is one person to know about it and it will be all over the show and then the entire industry within a week.

Waiting until they get home would be better and like I said, hire someone who does this professionally.

I respect what you're doing and you're a damn good friend for doing it and your heart's in the right place for sure - just make sure you do it the right way. Getting them to accept going to rehab is the hardest thing and being at a show when his/her buddies are partying right along with them will make it harder for them to make that decision.

they have assured me they will do it in the right way

L-Pink · 03-24-2008, 08:42 PM

"Cocaine is not addicting ... I have friends that have been doing cocaine everyday for more than ten years and they're not addicted"

(Quote, Richard Pryor)

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

"Cocaine is not addicting ... I have friends that have been doing cocaine everyday for more than ten years and they're not addicted"

(Quote, Richard Pryor)

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peaches · 03-24-2008, 08:45 PM

OK, seems like you've already made your decision. I hope your friend gets the help they need!

Jim_Gunn · 03-24-2008, 08:46 PM

The idea of doing an intervention at a webmaster convention is ridiculous. And no, the person does not have to be ready to quit for an intervention to work. The idea is for close family and friends who are affected by the addict to give them an ultimatum and back them into a corner by deciding to have nothing to do with that person anymore or help them, give them a place to live or give them money so the group can pressure them into going to rehab immediately *before* they think they are ready and before they kill themselves or hurt other people.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-24-2008, 08:46 PM

If you were REALLY his friend, you would lend him $200 so he could get another ball after he maxes out his credit card...

Iron Fist · 03-24-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

Only if A&E is there shooting it as well..

L-Pink · 03-24-2008, 08:49 PM

This didn't work for me ........

.

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

This didn't work for me ........

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sometimes it takes a few interventions.......

Jman · 03-24-2008, 08:52 PM

NA NA NANANA... I won't be in Pheonix ;-)

Jman · 03-24-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

NA NA NANANA... I won't be in Pheonix ;-)

OK so now that we determined he can't do an intervention on me since I will not be there.

Tell me Scott, do I know the guy?

Varius · 03-24-2008, 08:54 PM

This is a question you shouldn't need to ask. If you believe he needs such an event to realize what's going on, then do it. If you don't think he's at that level yet, then don't.

If you only follow GFYers' votes, then perhaps someone else needs the intervention

Either way, see ya in Phoenix Scott

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

OK so now that we determined he can't do an intervention on me since I will not be there.

Tell me Scott, do I know the guy?

yes you do

Jman · 03-24-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

yes you do

Ahhh shit, I hope it's not who I think it is...

Blondish or dark hair?

Fuck man answer your ICQ's.....

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

Ahhh shit, I hope it's not who I think it is...

Blondish or dark hair?

Fuck man answer your ICQ's.....

icq sent .......

PamiebDVD · 03-24-2008, 09:00 PM

Good luck to both of you.

That speaks volumes about the level of your commitment to that person.

mattz · 03-24-2008, 09:01 PM

only works if they want it, but im too drank to see so disregaurd my comment

kristin · 03-24-2008, 09:04 PM

Do you have the rehab place already setup?

If they say they will go to rehab, do you have the plane tickets to take them to the reheb place you already setup?

GTS Mark · 03-24-2008, 09:08 PM

Lets intervent the shit out of them, I will sponsor the drinks for the intervention LOL!

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Do you have the rehab place already setup?

If they say they will go to rehab, do you have the plane tickets to take them to the reheb place you already setup?

all in place.

several people have put in a LOT of money to help this person

Jman · 03-24-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

icq sent .......

Fuck... OK, for the record, all I got to say is I thought he would of been blondish.

I'm flabergasted right now

clickhappy · 03-24-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

My best friend committed suicide after a 3 year battle with meth.
Was the smartest, nicest, most responsible guy I ever met. But meth turned him into a basketcase. He hung himself and left a 6 page suicide note. His family and half his friends didnt even know he was on drugs cuz he was so good at hiding it from everyone. I felt incredibly guilty that I knew but didnt try to intervene. He kept saying he was fine and its no big deal, just something he does on weekends to blow off steam and thats it. I took him at his word and had no idea it was that bad. Now I wish I had intervened. I miss him very much. The last 2 years have been so quiet.

Had I known how bad he was I would have told his family and he would be alive today.

Robbie · 03-24-2008, 09:16 PM

Damn it Scott, this better not be me! I haven't been out of my office since Costa Rica and I need to have a good time.
It'll be just my luck, I'll be hitting a line and getting my dick sucked when the door will bust open and it'll be SleazyDream with a straight-jacket.

Varius · 03-24-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Lets intervent the shit out of them, I will sponsor the drinks for the intervention LOL!

LOL despite my post against you in that 'other thread', this post is easily the best of this thread

SHANESWORLD · 03-24-2008, 09:21 PM

hopefully the word will get out to other people on where "not" to be at what time. would suck to turn a corner in the hallway of the hotel and run into the keystone cops of arizona hauling someone away who got pissed that people sprung something like this on him and started swinging, taking down whoever was in the path.

i personally dont think a trade show is any place for something like this, but not my business. good luck though.

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C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	They have to want to help themselves. An intervention doesnt work if the person is not receptive..for them to be receptive, they have to be at the point of wanting help.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Can I take pictures of it? Who will be the sponsor?

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	they have to want help, nothing you will be able to do unless they are wanting to help themselves

03-24-2008, 08:07 PM	#8
JA$ON Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: I'm from Downtown....Im from Mitch & Murry Posts: 1,329	You should include someone sober. Someone in recovery who has been where they have been and pulled out of it. The key is to let them know that if the WANT help, that it is there. The choice to take advantage of that help will have to be theirs. Good luck to your friend

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03-24-2008, 08:17 PM	#15
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Serious question, what is their drug of choice?

03-24-2008, 08:20 PM	#17
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Until they have their moment of clarity, your wasting your time.

03-24-2008, 08:23 PM	#20
Stuntpig Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 299	Scott, I can quit anytime I want, I just dont want to quit yet. Is this about the time I lost my pants when we were skinny dipping in Curacao? Or the time I sold you to that Ladyboy in Bangkok? OK, I was drunk. And the Lexipro didnt help. But I found my pants, and I bought you back ( Even made a couple bucks on the deal). And now I only drink clear liquors. No more bourbon, whisky, tequila (cept silver) or that blue stuff that makes me so violent. And they have reduced the meds to the point where I can legally drive in Mexico.

03-24-2008, 08:25 PM	#23
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	If you're going to start interventions for the webmasters who do "too much" coke, you're going to be pretty darned busy. Personally I wouldn't do it at Phoenix - I doubt CCBill wants the reputation of "The forum that had the drug intervention". Wait until it's over and do it right. There are intervention specialists you can talk to.

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03-24-2008, 08:45 PM	#29
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	OK, seems like you've already made your decision. I hope your friend gets the help they need!

03-24-2008, 08:46 PM	#30
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	The idea of doing an intervention at a webmaster convention is ridiculous. And no, the person does not have to be ready to quit for an intervention to work. The idea is for close family and friends who are affected by the addict to give them an ultimatum and back them into a corner by deciding to have nothing to do with that person anymore or help them, give them a place to live or give them money so the group can pressure them into going to rehab immediately before they think they are ready and before they kill themselves or hurt other people.

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	This didn't work for me ........ .

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mattz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 7,697	only works if they want it, but im too drank to see so disregaurd my comment

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kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	Do you have the rehab place already setup? If they say they will go to rehab, do you have the plane tickets to take them to the reheb place you already setup? __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Lets intervent the shit out of them, I will sponsor the drinks for the intervention LOL!

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03-24-2008, 09:21 PM	#50
SHANESWORLD Eric Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 577	hopefully the word will get out to other people on where "not" to be at what time. would suck to turn a corner in the hallway of the hotel and run into the keystone cops of arizona hauling someone away who got pissed that people sprung something like this on him and started swinging, taking down whoever was in the path. i personally dont think a trade show is any place for something like this, but not my business. good luck though. __________________ SHANES WORLD ONLINE! - BETA IN 11 DAYS!