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BVF · 03-25-2008, 08:58 PM

Some of you people have really showed your asses in this thread......I just watched 'The Mist' today and if any of you have seen it, you're acting just like those jesus freaks in the grocery store.

For one....How the fuck is there going to be an 'intervention' when some of the people who will be there will ALREADY BE HIGH??? It's like a bro is going to do a rail in his hotel room and then try to tell somebody else to get off the coke?

For two, unless this person is a COMPLETE idiot, it isn't like he's actually going to walk into the convention and be surprised about the intervention....Even if he really is too stupid to figure it out, SOMEBODY is going to warn this person beforehand...I can almost guarantee it...

And for three, why in the FUCK is this thread even here when the intervention hasn't even been done yet?....And why does person after person feel the need to come in here and type the same paragraph of how they were against it until they talked and blah blah and now that they know who the person is, they really need it?

What's funny is that a lot of you are in this bubble and you actually believe that this bullshit that you're planning is going to go swell....All you're going to do is ruin everybody's vacation and further isolate this man or woman....

CuriousToyBoy · 03-25-2008, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

lol - wish you were coming mate!!!!!

Miss my friends, that I do.

Back on the circuit somewhat again one day ....

ATM, it's family 1, broventions 0

Holly · 03-25-2008, 09:01 PM

Holy hell. Three pages and no name.

Somebody post it or I'm gonna start guessing.

Christina Muller · 03-25-2008, 09:04 PM

I dont usually get involved in threads like this but sleazy told me in confidence who this is and I totally agree, a real intervention is the best thing to do here ..hope all goes well

dav3 · 03-25-2008, 10:23 PM

Page 4 was here.

pocketkangaroo · 03-25-2008, 11:03 PM

I still don't know if this thread is a joke or for real.

If it's for real, I'm really shocked. As someone who has had two friends deal with major drug issues, I've seen how hard it is to get them to stop. While the intentions may be good, the plan is absolutely absurd.

1) Having this at a convention is questionable at best. You want to take them out of their element and away from temptation for this. You are not going to be able to do that with booze, drugs, and hot women a few steps away. You also are going to have a tough time coming across serious with a guy you've been partying with during the week.

2) Posting it on a message board is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen. An intervention is supposed to be private and personal. It's not supposed to have some press release on a message board. It's not about "hitting people up on ICQ" to let them know. It's a small group of close friends who sit down and tell a person they need help. All this does is give advance notice to the person and/or embarass them in front of the people they have to do business with in the future. Publically humiliating and blackballing someone is not an ample way to get someone off drugs.

3) If you're raising $40,000, why would you not spend $500-$1000 to get a professional to do this?

I seriously hope this is a joke. If not, get a mod to delete this thread and do it the correct way.

baddog · 03-25-2008, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesbodojo

This intervention should have been done a long time ago. He's an arrogant mooch, but maybe that was the drugs talking...and not who he really was.

btw thanks for the chat, Scott ;)

For the first time I started making guesses to myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

oh lord, sleazy told me who this was and the DO need help...if I'm saying that you know it is bad!

Not bad, scary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw

I have been sober for over 9 years. I was one FUCKED UP alcoholic. I have been going to meetings ever since and seen many many many people come and go into the program. Most do not stay clean or sober. With 9 years sober, I am one of the lucky ones that made it this far.

It has been my experience that interventions do NOT work. An intervention means that the friends and family are ready for the addict to quit; it does not mean the _addict_ is ready to quit. Interventions usually result in hard feelings HOWEVER it does get the addict to start thinking about it. The intervention probably won't work, but it might speed up his realization that he has hit bottom.

You are not in a good spot. I think the best way to show an addict how much you care is to push them away from you. An intervention may not get the addict to agree to get into treatment but it gives the friends and family the opportunity to say "We love you but we just cannot be around you when you are using". That is what really needs to happen -- ALL means of support need to be removed so that the only choice left and that is to get clean and sober.

However, this is the only guy that I agree with. Trust me, xxxjay is a light-weight compared to what I have done and seen over the years. So I have been very close to a lot of addicts, and pushing them away is the only thing that works.

It is called 'tough love."

They will thank you later.

baddog · 03-25-2008, 11:16 PM

and yeah . . . I really hope this is a joke.

Porno Dan · 03-25-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

oh lord, sleazy told me who this was and the DO need help...if I'm saying that you know it is bad!

Dude I am so with you .

God Bless Sleazy for trying to save their soul.

AmeliaG · 03-25-2008, 11:31 PM

I'm not a big fan of pushy stuff like interventions. Some people react just to the being pushed around and make the bad choice. Definitely, you should say something to your friend though.

Mike Dutch · 03-26-2008, 01:14 AM

I know who it is ;)

Its a great idea, set up a rehab sponsored by pillbucks.com and have a livewebcam in there cabana18 style. Its going to be busier than an avn show floor.

xxxjay · 03-26-2008, 01:45 AM

I don't think this show is good place to start rehab.

It is, however, a great place to relapse!

SleazyDream · 03-26-2008, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

I don't think this show is good place to start rehab.

It is, however, a great place to relapse!

rehab doesn't start at the show.

intervention starts at the show.

rehab is the weeks and months afterwards!

AmeliaG · 03-26-2008, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

rehab doesn't start at the show.

intervention starts at the show.

rehab is the weeks and months afterwards!

Well, I'm still iffy on the whole intervention concept, but, having talked about who it is on ICQ, I guess it might be the only way to reach them. Hopefully having law enforcement there will help save someone who needs help without getting anyone in trouble at any of the parties.

nico-t · 03-26-2008, 06:49 AM

is see people talk about 'this person' and 'they'
so whats the deal does he have multiple personality disorder?

oh and i still think it's a very very stupid idea, but whatever

Mister E · 03-26-2008, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

If you are on the level here DO IT! Having been on both sides of this electric fence, it took friends to *force* my paradigm to shift...

Good luck sleazydream!

ChefJeff · 03-26-2008, 07:16 AM

Is pot smoking in this category?

cykoe6 · 03-26-2008, 07:25 AM

As someone who has more than 7 years of sobriety I have to say that this sounds like a uniquely bad idea. I am assuming that this thread is some kind of inside GFY joke.... at least I hope so.

Remember life is not a reality TV show..... I know that lately it is becoming hard to tell the difference.

Holly · 03-26-2008, 07:44 AM

Okay- first guess

Is it KB?

And if it is... see if they have the 3 year, mandatory in-house with no net access plan. I would probably chip in on that.

Miz_Wright · 03-26-2008, 08:22 AM

Sleazy, I hope for the best for you and your friend. There are some safe folks who are clean in the industry (I know Chad's outed himself, so have I, and if I recall correctly, a bunch in the "Who Doesn't Drink" thread) - so there are always people to hang with and feel secure.

Best of luck to you all on this.

Phoenix · 03-26-2008, 08:26 AM

im not going so it isnt me..lol

boneprone · 03-26-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

Hey Scott. I think its a great idea. I know who it is, and its a great idea.

Let me know if I can help.

BP

Matyko · 03-26-2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

my understanding is they have tried a lot of things but powder seems to be what they like

A serious LSD/iboga trip can nicely formatc: their minds.
Seriously, LSD can be used to get rid of serious addictions.
Google up Andrew Feldmar.

I hope you succeed.

Peaches · 03-26-2008, 01:40 PM

Is someone going to update this thread? I can think of 20 or folks just off the top of my head this could be so it will be interesting to see who the WORST cokehead webmaster is ;)

Due · 03-26-2008, 01:59 PM

If this guy is your friend, bring it up to him personally, dont get a crowd to jump on him, he will feel assaulted and it will help him believing drugs is the answer since he obviously could not trust his friends.
Many that will offer their help on this is not his friend neither, they just want in on the action so they feel important since they got some stories to tell.
Not to mention the chances of such things going wrong at a show is big, especially if the guy is already on something, it could destroy or tarnish his online business as well assuming he got one.

Mister E · 03-26-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

my understanding in how this company does it is thatthey catch them in the act(set up) and then they are presented with a choice when caught with an illegial substance..... rehab or jail.....

problem there is anybody can fake it for 28 days, be prepared to be diappointed,
but I think it's very cool to try

despite all the negative crap about this thread (said behind your back of course)

BVF · 03-26-2008, 02:03 PM

And for all of you fat webmasters at the forum stuffing your faces, maybe they need to have an 'intervention' next time you sit down at the buffet?

Mister E · 03-26-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebra

I have a pretty good idea who you are talking about, and you could not honestly call yourself their friend if you did not go through with this.
Sometimes you just have to do things for others, even if you know it might not have a good outcome for yourself.

and even if the haters use it as fodder (and they are)

Imortyl Pussycat · 03-26-2008, 02:32 PM

hi Scottie, I'm with you 100% on this one. You wouldn't be doing this at the Forum if you didn't know this person well enough to know that it will have the biggest impact and best odds of acceptance at the show. If the industry is the only family your friend has, they may have a slightly better chance of recovery feeling accountable to so many at this point. I guess if your friend has any doubt that their drug use is perceived as a serious problem you can always open this thread for them. Best of luck to everyone involved in keeping your good friend above ground.

Mike Dutch · 03-27-2008, 05:58 AM

I talked with the person and he is very willing he just told me

Michaelious · 03-27-2008, 07:44 AM

From my experience you can't say anything, the person with the problem has to hit a learning curve where they realise they want to change. People create their own realities good or bad. Also if you haven't been there yourself your not going to be much help.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 03-27-2008, 08:18 AM

Damn, if this were a model..she would be called a stupid ho and tossed to the wolves till she was used up.

Guess its better to be a bro than a ho

TurboAngel · 03-27-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

Damn, if this were a model..she would be called a stupid ho and tossed to the wolves till she was used up.

Guess its better to be a bro than a ho

You crack me up! LOL

On the other hand I hope thing's work out how ever you do it.

03-25-2008, 08:58 PM	#151
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	Some of you people have really showed your asses in this thread......I just watched 'The Mist' today and if any of you have seen it, you're acting just like those jesus freaks in the grocery store. For one....How the fuck is there going to be an 'intervention' when some of the people who will be there will ALREADY BE HIGH??? It's like a bro is going to do a rail in his hotel room and then try to tell somebody else to get off the coke? For two, unless this person is a COMPLETE idiot, it isn't like he's actually going to walk into the convention and be surprised about the intervention....Even if he really is too stupid to figure it out, SOMEBODY is going to warn this person beforehand...I can almost guarantee it... And for three, why in the FUCK is this thread even here when the intervention hasn't even been done yet?....And why does person after person feel the need to come in here and type the same paragraph of how they were against it until they talked and blah blah and now that they know who the person is, they really need it? What's funny is that a lot of you are in this bubble and you actually believe that this bullshit that you're planning is going to go swell....All you're going to do is ruin everybody's vacation and further isolate this man or woman.... __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

03-25-2008, 09:01 PM	#153
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03-25-2008, 11:03 PM	#156
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I still don't know if this thread is a joke or for real. If it's for real, I'm really shocked. As someone who has had two friends deal with major drug issues, I've seen how hard it is to get them to stop. While the intentions may be good, the plan is absolutely absurd. 1) Having this at a convention is questionable at best. You want to take them out of their element and away from temptation for this. You are not going to be able to do that with booze, drugs, and hot women a few steps away. You also are going to have a tough time coming across serious with a guy you've been partying with during the week. 2) Posting it on a message board is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen. An intervention is supposed to be private and personal. It's not supposed to have some press release on a message board. It's not about "hitting people up on ICQ" to let them know. It's a small group of close friends who sit down and tell a person they need help. All this does is give advance notice to the person and/or embarass them in front of the people they have to do business with in the future. Publically humiliating and blackballing someone is not an ample way to get someone off drugs. 3) If you're raising $40,000, why would you not spend $500-$1000 to get a professional to do this? I seriously hope this is a joke. If not, get a mod to delete this thread and do it the correct way. Last edited by pocketkangaroo; 03-25-2008 at 11:04 PM..

03-25-2008, 11:16 PM	#158
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	and yeah . . . I really hope this is a joke.

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AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,585	I'm not a big fan of pushy stuff like interventions. Some people react just to the being pushed around and make the bad choice. Definitely, you should say something to your friend though. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-26-2008, 01:14 AM	#161
Mike Dutch Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 5,607	I know who it is ;) Its a great idea, set up a rehab sponsored by pillbucks.com and have a livewebcam in there cabana18 style. Its going to be busier than an avn show floor. __________________ Advidi.com -- Your Dating, Diet and Skincare Partner with over 1000 offers --

03-26-2008, 01:45 AM	#162
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03-26-2008, 06:49 AM	#165
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	is see people talk about 'this person' and 'they' so whats the deal does he have multiple personality disorder? oh and i still think it's a very very stupid idea, but whatever

03-26-2008, 07:16 AM	#167
ChefJeff Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,499	Is pot smoking in this category?

03-26-2008, 07:25 AM	#168
cykoe6 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,499	As someone who has more than 7 years of sobriety I have to say that this sounds like a uniquely bad idea. I am assuming that this thread is some kind of inside GFY joke.... at least I hope so. Remember life is not a reality TV show..... I know that lately it is becoming hard to tell the difference. __________________ бабки, шлюхи, сила

03-26-2008, 07:44 AM	#169
Holly Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jesusland Posts: 10,017	Okay- first guess Is it KB? And if it is... see if they have the 3 year, mandatory in-house with no net access plan. I would probably chip in on that. __________________ War National Damn Champions Eagle

03-26-2008, 08:22 AM	#170
Miz_Wright Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 593	Sleazy, I hope for the best for you and your friend. There are some safe folks who are clean in the industry (I know Chad's outed himself, so have I, and if I recall correctly, a bunch in the "Who Doesn't Drink" thread) - so there are always people to hang with and feel secure. Best of luck to you all on this. __________________ Sales Babe and General Nerd Wright Stuff Consulting [email protected] Mobile: (704) 918-5499 ICQ: 353902844 SKYPE: MizWright704

03-26-2008, 08:26 AM	#171
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03-26-2008, 01:40 PM	#174
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Is someone going to update this thread? I can think of 20 or folks just off the top of my head this could be so it will be interesting to see who the WORST cokehead webmaster is ;)

03-26-2008, 01:59 PM	#175
Due Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 3,620	If this guy is your friend, bring it up to him personally, dont get a crowd to jump on him, he will feel assaulted and it will help him believing drugs is the answer since he obviously could not trust his friends. Many that will offer their help on this is not his friend neither, they just want in on the action so they feel important since they got some stories to tell. Not to mention the chances of such things going wrong at a show is big, especially if the guy is already on something, it could destroy or tarnish his online business as well assuming he got one. __________________ I buy plugs Skype: Due_Global /Due

03-26-2008, 02:03 PM	#177
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	And for all of you fat webmasters at the forum stuffing your faces, maybe they need to have an 'intervention' next time you sit down at the buffet? __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

03-26-2008, 02:32 PM	#179
Imortyl Pussycat Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 5,449	hi Scottie, I'm with you 100% on this one. You wouldn't be doing this at the Forum if you didn't know this person well enough to know that it will have the biggest impact and best odds of acceptance at the show. If the industry is the only family your friend has, they may have a slightly better chance of recovery feeling accountable to so many at this point. I guess if your friend has any doubt that their drug use is perceived as a serious problem you can always open this thread for them. Best of luck to everyone involved in keeping your good friend above ground. __________________ Julie Larson julie {at} juicyads.com skype: imortylpussycat Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet available ad spots \| sign up now

03-27-2008, 05:58 AM	#180
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03-27-2008, 07:44 AM	#181
Michaelious Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6,720	From my experience you can't say anything, the person with the problem has to hit a learning curve where they realise they want to change. People create their own realities good or bad. Also if you haven't been there yourself your not going to be much help. __________________

03-27-2008, 08:18 AM	#182
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	Damn, if this were a model..she would be called a stupid ho and tossed to the wolves till she was used up. Guess its better to be a bro than a ho