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quesadilla 03-25-2008 10:23 AM

the lack of understanding and experience in dealing with addiction is apparent in this thread.

utterly amazing that you'd attempt this at a webmaster event.

so retarded i can't even begin to understand it.

Voodoo 03-25-2008 10:23 AM

This is a great idea Sleazy... I know who it is and I think helping will show what a true friend you are.

Wiseman 03-25-2008 10:25 AM

Interventions are great!! Awesome way to help a good friend out!

Purple Haze 03-25-2008 10:27 AM

I just got off the phone with Scott. He asked me if I'd like to participate in the intervention, now knowing who this person is, I have to agree that it needs to be done. Most of this persons closest friends, will be in Phoenix..and good and bad, this person needs to know that they are loved and surrounded by people that care. They need to stop with the drugs as its taken over their lives and is about to lose everything....almost has really.

Penthouse Tony 03-25-2008 10:32 AM

This is a great thing you are doing for a friend.

Zebra 03-25-2008 10:36 AM

I have a pretty good idea who you are talking about, and you could not honestly call yourself their friend if you did not go through with this.
Sometimes you just have to do things for others, even if you know it might not have a good outcome for yourself.

SHANESWORLD 03-25-2008 10:38 AM

i just called the hotel to see why they would allow this to go on. i told them to have extra securities around and ask sleazy, (gave them his name), if he needs any help when he checks in. you can never be too safe. they said they were going to notify the sheriffs department and have some more undercovers in the hotel to make sure everything goes smoothly. i guess if you're gonna do this, do it right. i know this person needs help so why not, fuck it, you got my blessing now.

good luck.

AL4A 03-25-2008 10:39 AM

Sleazy, You and Me both know that this person really needs the help! To bad I will not be Phoenix this time.

AL ;)

Elli 03-25-2008 10:39 AM

Great idea, Scott. This person definitely needs a wake-up call.

Deej 03-25-2008 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHANESWORLD (Post 13974264)
i just called the hotel to see why they would allow this to go on. i told them to have extra securities around and ask sleazy, (gave them his name), if he needs any help when he checks in. you can never be too safe. they said they were going to notify the sheriffs department and have some more undercovers in the hotel to make sure everything goes smoothly. i guess if you're gonna do this, do it right. i know this person needs help so why not, fuck it, you got my blessing now.

good luck.

undercover sherrifs?

what are you people doing?


i dont have anything to worry about, but im sure others will encounter issues within this environment...

Im mixed on this...

i like your thoughts and intentions Sleazy, but in the middle of a show?

Im all about people correcting their ways, especially when someone loved as much as this person seems to be...


I dunno, i hope all goes well for you and your friend... I hope he takes the help....


the girls just better be able to stay naked :D

i'll nutt up on any authorities trying to clothe the hunnies :pimp

Evil E 03-25-2008 11:29 AM

Not sure if it's a troll thread or not... but I don't think it's a good idea to do it there. Might want to do it just before or after...

Of course, if the dude ODs during the forum, then you would all say... damn why didn't I do something before...

Anyways, best of luck.

Fuck drugs.

Deej 03-25-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil E (Post 13974717)
Not sure if it's a troll thread or not... but I don't think it's a good idea to do it there. Might want to do it just before or after...

Of course, if the dude ODs during the forum, then you would all say... damn why didn't I do something before...

Anyways, best of luck.

Fuck drugs.

Thats IS a good point... i guess Sleazy has a lock on getting the important people in his life together... and im sure if and when done properly that it WILL be secluded ...

Sleazy has never hit me as a morally stupid or uncaring person so if this is all going down, id think hed do it "right"...


i wish you and your friend luck too...


other than all that... i'll see you all (attending) soon...

lets drink and point out idiots...

:pimp

Eric 03-25-2008 11:46 AM

Knowing who this is it pains me to think about how far they have fallen from grace. Some of you may not agree with this, but this is probably the best chance this person has to be surrounded by so many people who care about them and that they respect enough to actually listen to.

It is a tough call and initially I thought this was a bad idea till I was able to reach Scott and find out who it was and how bad the problem has truely become.

When all is said and done I have a feeling that many of you who have disagreed will change your minds and understand a little better what we are trying to accomplish here.

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 11:56 AM

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT GUYS.

This person has touched a lot of lives. the amount of money soo many people from large online companies have donated to help is a testament to that.

Juicy D. Links 03-25-2008 11:59 AM

yo UPDATE

i saw a shitload of cops outside the hotel with a staging bus..... i saw like 3 dogs also ....

damn

Juicy D. Links 03-25-2008 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13974894)
Knowing who this is it pains me to think about how far they have fallen from grace. Some of you may not agree with this, but this is probably the best chance this person has to be surrounded by so many people who care about them and that they respect enough to actually listen to.

It is a tough call and initially I thought this was a bad idea till I was able to reach Scott and find out who it was and how bad the problem has truely become.

When all is said and done I have a feeling that many of you who have disagreed will change your minds and understand a little better what we are trying to accomplish here.

same here man , but it is necessary for his own good ....

_Danielle_ 03-25-2008 12:05 PM

If it's who I think it is...then you DEFINITELY need to do it!

Nader 03-25-2008 12:24 PM

:1orglaughScott i can't guess you it is since there is so many that party
in our industry :1orglaugh

Black Dog 03-25-2008 12:28 PM

I'm glad somebody is finally doing something about this person's drug problem. However I'm afraid they might have already figured it out since I know for a fact that the person visits GFY on a regular basis. I hope he/she still shows up for the Phoenix Forum.

Let me know if I can be of assistance.


Barry

s9ann0 03-25-2008 12:36 PM

put a webcam on GFY so we can see him smack you in the face live

Porno Dan 03-25-2008 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13966970)
"Cocaine is not addicting ... I have friends that have been doing cocaine everyday for more than ten years and they're not addicted"

(Quote, Richard Pryor)


Now that is a great quote.

Jim_Gunn 03-25-2008 12:40 PM

I cannot believe that this is even being contemplated in a serious manner. Someone ask an interventionist at NA or other organization that has experience with this if a bunch of "bros" and business associates should be confronting the person in question at a porn convention. Close friends and family only need to do this only with the help of an experienced interventionist and also have a rehab to send him to immediately that day. Otherwise you people all have no business messing with this. It's just completely inappropriate and counter-productive.

SHANESWORLD 03-25-2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13974894)
Knowing who this is it pains me to think about how far they have fallen from grace. Some of you may not agree with this, but this is probably the best chance this person has to be surrounded by so many people who care about them and that they respect enough to actually listen to.

It is a tough call and initially I thought this was a bad idea till I was able to reach Scott and find out who it was and how bad the problem has truely become.

When all is said and done I have a feeling that many of you who have disagreed will change your minds and understand a little better what we are trying to accomplish here.

i agree with you tender bones. at first i said "NO WAY" but now knowing who and the circumstances involved, i say go ahead. i still don't wanna be around when it happens but i'm happy that scott is doing this. he's a good guy. it's all for the best.

:2 cents:

Nikki_Licks 03-25-2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 13975004)
yo UPDATE

i saw a shitload of cops outside the hotel with a staging bus..... i saw like 3 dogs also ....

damn


You have to be kidding me, right?

candyflip 03-25-2008 01:01 PM

Without the proper people in place to handle the "intervention" it's just going to blow up in your face.

Posting here and announcing it seems a bit self serving, regardless of what your true intentions might be.

Just because you've seen the Intervention show on A&E doesn't give you the right to stage an intervention.

CherryLipsRosa 03-25-2008 01:14 PM

Well if you are a good and close friend and you think it is a good idea to do it then go for it. But at a show people are there to have fun and having an intervention might not be well received. This should be done privately and without a fuss cause at the end of the day it is caring for a person and showing them that they are loved.
Good luck!

evildick 03-25-2008 01:17 PM

Sounds like fake BS to me.

I don't think even Sleazy is stupid enough to hold an intervention at a PARTY.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2006/8/bullshit.jpg
:1orglaugh

Big Red Machine 03-25-2008 01:53 PM

People need a bottom to bounce from...hopefully this will help.
Best of Luck

RogerV 03-25-2008 02:24 PM

I have an idea on who it is.. Go for it LOL

polle54 03-25-2008 02:27 PM

I can tell you from bitter experience that if you pass just a little justment on them there's no way they will listen to you.

You really gotta meet the person where he is and find out why he thinks what he does is alright, and maybe that way you can make him realize how stupid his own arguments are...

uno 03-25-2008 03:33 PM

Sierra Tucson in Tucson AZ is a really good place.

CuriousToyBoy 03-25-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966741)
I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

Ha !!!

Bad luck !

I won't be in Phoenix mate, so you'll be intervening yourself !

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

SHANESWORLD 03-25-2008 03:44 PM

I don't even like this guy, but no one should be left alone to implode from drugs and alcohol.

i hope they get him to a place to help him out of all this.

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 13975201)
I cannot believe that this is even being contemplated in a serious manner. Someone ask an interventionist at NA or other organization that has experience with this if a bunch of "bros" and business associates should be confronting the person in question at a porn convention. Close friends and family only need to do this only with the help of an experienced interventionist and also have a rehab to send him to immediately that day. Otherwise you people all have no business messing with this. It's just completely inappropriate and counter-productive.

this person's REAL family and close friends that care about this person are the people from they know from the porn business.

How is that sooo hard to understand?

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy (Post 13976255)
Ha !!!

Bad luck !

I won't be in Phoenix mate, so you'll be intervening yourself !

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

lol - wish you were coming mate!!!!!

lesbodojo 03-25-2008 04:27 PM

This intervention should have been done a long time ago. He's an arrogant mooch, but maybe that was the drugs talking...and not who he really was.

btw thanks for the chat, Scott ;)

xxxjay 03-25-2008 04:39 PM

oh lord, sleazy told me who this was and the DO need help...if I'm saying that you know it is bad!

Porno Dan 03-25-2008 04:42 PM

Normally I wouldn't be behind something like this, given my own fondness for the smell of certain of substances, but in this case I am all for it.

I just spoke with Scott and this person really does need all of our help.

seeric 03-25-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 13976630)
oh lord, sleazy told me who this was and the DO need help...if I'm saying that you know it is bad!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seconded for effect. damn.

xxxjay in reference to janis joplin one night

"I watched the human heavyweight cocaine-snorting champion (we'll call her Janis Joplin) do more coke, faster than anyone I’ve ever seen! Someday, I hope she gets help. That’s quite a statement coming from me."

I haven't heard you say anything like that forever.

Jim_Gunn 03-25-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13976566)
this person's REAL family and close friends that care about this person are the people from they know from the porn business.

How is that sooo hard to understand?

Even if you mean to suggest that this person's blood relatives also work in the porn biz, with them or separately from them, organizing the intervention at a business convention is still the wrong time and wrong place to do this, not to mention that you shouldn't be giving them advance notice on a public website. Let the few people are who actually blood related to them or who are very closely involved in their lives on a day to day basis handle this intervention with aid of a responsible interventionist at a private residence or other location away from a gathering of their peers.

D 03-25-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966912)
we won't let the media know who it is out of respect for ccbill.

no one will know what happened - it'll occur in a closed room and the person will be quietly removed when we go forward with it.

Seeing as how half of the thread already knows who it is, I doubt that'll be the case...

Not knowing who it is or what's up specifically, myself, I can only really offer that lots of people in the world have contributed significantly while being heavy drug users.

I often wonder what would have come of Hunter S. Thompson had those around him forced an intervention on him; or on Edgar Allen Poe; or on Samuel Taylor Coleridge...

I mean, this person's at least functional enough to maintain employmentand be able to make shows, right - and for some time now? That doesn't quite seem like rock-bottom.

...but it seems some people that I respect seem to know what's up and think it's a good idea, including yourself... so do what you feel is right, I guess.

chadknowslaw 03-25-2008 05:37 PM

I have been sober for over 9 years. I was one FUCKED UP alcoholic. I have been going to meetings ever since and seen many many many people come and go into the program. Most do not stay clean or sober. With 9 years sober, I am one of the lucky ones that made it this far.

It has been my experience that interventions do NOT work. An intervention means that the friends and family are ready for the addict to quit; it does not mean the _addict_ is ready to quit. Interventions usually result in hard feelings HOWEVER it does get the addict to start thinking about it. The intervention probably won't work, but it might speed up his realization that he has hit bottom.

You are not in a good spot. I think the best way to show an addict how much you care is to push them away from you. An intervention may not get the addict to agree to get into treatment but it gives the friends and family the opportunity to say "We love you but we just cannot be around you when you are using". That is what really needs to happen -- ALL means of support need to be removed so that the only choice left and that is to get clean and sober.

Barefootsies 03-25-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadknowslaw (Post 13976841)
I have been sober for over 9 years. I was one FUCKED UP alcoholic. I have been going to meetings ever since and seen many many many people come and go into the program. Most do not stay clean or sober. With 9 years sober, I am one of the lucky ones that made it this far.

It has been my experience that interventions do NOT work. An intervention means that the friends and family are ready for the addict to quit; it does not mean the _addict_ is ready to quit. Interventions usually result in hard feelings HOWEVER it does get the addict to start thinking about it. The intervention probably won't work, but it might speed up his realization that he has hit bottom.

You are not in a good spot. I think the best way to show an addict how much you care is to push them away from you. An intervention may not get the addict to agree to get into treatment but it gives the friends and family the opportunity to say "We love you but we just cannot be around you when you are using". That is what really needs to happen -- ALL means of support need to be removed so that the only choice left and that is to get clean and sober.

True dat

Keep y'er pimp hand strong

Fap 03-25-2008 08:07 PM

hook me up

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 08:08 PM

some kind words of support here.

lets hope this goes well and the person sees the problem when everyone presents it in a calm and loving manor.

nico-t 03-25-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 13975201)
I cannot believe that this is even being contemplated in a serious manner. Someone ask an interventionist at NA or other organization that has experience with this if a bunch of "bros" and business associates should be confronting the person in question at a porn convention. Close friends and family only need to do this only with the help of an experienced interventionist and also have a rehab to send him to immediately that day. Otherwise you people all have no business messing with this. It's just completely inappropriate and counter-productive.

exactly what i am thinking.... sleazy dont you have any real social skills besides the broventions? this is seriously the shittiest idea ever to get someone off dope... if you cant see that you have some serious problems

JFK 03-25-2008 08:23 PM

Fantastic Idea Sleazy, I'm all for it:thumbsup after reading all the posts I think I may have an inkling as to who it is ;)

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 13977626)
exactly what i am thinking.... sleazy dont you have any real social skills besides the broventions? this is seriously the shittiest idea ever to get someone off dope... if you cant see that you have some serious problems

bros take care of bros

Mayor 03-25-2008 08:30 PM

At first I really thought this was a terrible idea scott but having spoken with you at length and knowing this person PERSONALLY I think they will respond to this and I think it is the best thing for them. I only wish I could be there. Feel free to skype me when you guys do it so I can lend a hand.
Let me know if I should fly in. For this person I would.

evildick 03-25-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 13977626)
exactly what i am thinking.... sleazy dont you have any real social skills besides the broventions? this is seriously the shittiest idea ever to get someone off dope... if you cant see that you have some serious problems

see post 127.

When people start to doubt your sham, break out the ICQ list and get your acquaintances to back up your story. This is called the "truth by numbers" troll. If enough people back up your story, then it just has to be real.

This is all clearly laid out in "Jet's Guide to Message Board Trolling, Volume 3".


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