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Spunky 03-24-2008 09:25 PM

Dope is for dopes.I have tried on a few friends..no way in hell ..they need to want to and even then it's a constant struggle to stay clean

Brad Mitchell 03-24-2008 09:31 PM

Dude if there's an intervention in Phoenix count me in :)

Brad

baddog 03-24-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13967144)
Dope is for dopes.I have tried on a few friends..no way in hell ..they need to want to and even then it's a constant struggle to stay clean

You sound like one of the few in this thread that have actually dealt with a drug abuser.

Coke is not something that can be kicked in a week. It doesn't matter your intentions, if they don't want to quit, they won't.

Unfortunately it usually takes something very drastic for them to see the light, and even then it is a 50/50 deal, at best.

Spunky 03-24-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13967164)
You sound like one of the few in this thread that have actually dealt with a drug abuser.

Coke is not something that can be kicked in a week. It doesn't matter your intentions, if they don't want to quit, they won't.

Unfortunately it usually takes something very drastic for them to see the light, and even then it is a 50/50 deal, at best.

Actually was an Ex g/f..she smoked heroin.I had spent over 20k trying to help from methadone to rehab..she refused to quit and I couldn't take any more.She wound up dead at 21.Another buddy was so wrapped up in blow he wound up killing himself by blowing his brains out.
I'm no saint but whenever I hear any potential g/f's mixed up in anything other than weed,I run not walk away.

SleazyDream 03-24-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 13967123)
Damn it Scott, this better not be me! I haven't been out of my office since Costa Rica and I need to have a good time.
It'll be just my luck, I'll be hitting a line and getting my dick sucked when the door will bust open and it'll be SleazyDream with a straight-jacket.

if I put you in a straight jacket it'll only be cause the hookers I bought you were below your standads and you needed to be restrained so they could fuck you and collect their money. :thumbsup

baddog 03-24-2008 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13967186)
Actually was an Ex g/f..she smoked heroin.I had spent over 20k trying to help from methadone to rehab..she refused to quit and I couldn't take any more.She wound up dead at 21.Another buddy was so wrapped up in blow he wound up killing himself by blowing his brains out.
I'm no saint but whenever I hear any potential g/f's mixed up in anything other than weed,I run not walk away.

Now that is funny. the methadone probably fucked her up more than smoking the heroin.

Spunky 03-24-2008 09:50 PM

I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addicted

baddog 03-24-2008 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 13967234)
I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addicted

Smoking is for chicks. Try the spike. There is a reason it is so popular.

Spunky 03-24-2008 09:58 PM

Never..all I enjoy is the occasional reefer.I'm getting to old for that crap

NickSunshine 03-24-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13967249)
Smoking is for chicks. Try the spike. There is a reason it is so popular.

holy shit baddog-

that just gave me a chill.

wheat 03-24-2008 10:48 PM

I don't think the unofficial drinking olympics is the place to stage an intervention, but that's just me.

heymatty 03-24-2008 10:56 PM

This must be a joke. If not its seriously retarded.

bashbug 03-24-2008 11:01 PM

Stupid Stupid Stupid fucking idea.

Get real friends and family, not losers from online, and certainly not at a convention

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-24-2008 11:06 PM

People who get hooked are weak asses.

Can someone change my nickname to GoneStraightEdge? lol

V_RocKs 03-24-2008 11:37 PM

Didn't know you and XXXJAY were that close... but OK...

Rochard 03-24-2008 11:59 PM

I fought my battle with drugs and I won. That's not to say that I'm bigger or better than anyone else; A split decision landed me in Marine Corps boot camp at Paris Island for three months. That kicked my drug habit and I'm never ever going back again.

I can't tolerate people doing drugs in my personal life. I would have hauled him into rehab a while ago.

baddog 03-25-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 13967832)
Didn't know you and XXXJAY were that close... but OK...

:1orglaugh

Juicy D. Links 03-25-2008 02:46 AM

lmk when it is ill bring gthe party gear

XoXoLeah 03-25-2008 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13966970)
"Cocaine is not addicting ... I have friends that have been doing cocaine everyday for more than ten years and they're not addicted"

(Quote, Richard Pryor)

i hate to laugh... cuz its not funny.... but thats fucking funny.

Juicy D. Links 03-25-2008 02:54 AM

i will be at this intervention i will be th emdoerator

Madame0120 03-25-2008 03:29 AM

No good deed, goes unpunished.

potter 03-25-2008 04:17 AM

I'm just wondering what you feel deserves the intervention? I've lost friends to addiction, people who got so into it it eventually killed them. However, I also have alot of friends who can use drugs alot to party and not "abuse" them.

roly 03-25-2008 05:01 AM

rehab is for quitters

BVF 03-25-2008 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966782)
i'm hoping an intervention with a pile of their friends that love this person will help to wake this person up into realizing they DO in fact have a problem.

I really think that you should mind your own business and focus on realizing your OWN happiness........You sit up there in dark cold Canada depressed and the next chance you get to be in some sunshine, you waste energy focusing on another "friend's" business?

You need to snap out of it....And you won't really know what I mean UNTIL you actually snap out of it.

BVF 03-25-2008 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 13968887)
i will be at this intervention i will be th emdoerator

See Sleazy, this is the exact kind of bullshit I'm talking about......Snap the fuck out of it and let somebody else handle it.....Go on a REAL vacation....

Fuck....

BVF 03-25-2008 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 13966991)
The idea of doing an intervention at a webmaster convention is ridiculous. And no, the person does not have to be ready to quit for an intervention to work. The idea is for close family and friends who are affected by the addict to give them an ultimatum and back them into a corner by deciding to have nothing to do with that person anymore or help them, give them a place to live or give them money so the group can pressure them into going to rehab immediately *before* they think they are ready and before they kill themselves or hurt other people.

This is the ONLY other person that has made some real sense in this thread....The rest of y'all are brain dead....Seriously.

dav3 03-25-2008 06:21 AM

You should let them make their own decisions, whether it is for the better or worse. Let nature take it's course.

Even if you try to help, it will most likely back-fire, especially if you get them thrown in jail. You can't help some one who doesn't want help.

viki 03-25-2008 06:31 AM

i don't know anything about this person, but i can think of many reasons why this shouldn't be done at a convention.

- people talk and word will get out about who it is. the addict will resent the fact that this is being done in a place where there are so many people he works with and that you are putting his reputation on the line.
- conventions are full of drugs. you'll be asking them to quit something in the middle of what is essentially a big party.
- you'd be putting him in a place where he'd have too many excuses not to quit. words like hypocrite would be slung around, as well as comments about jealousy and trying to destroy his reputation.

again, i don't know anything about the particular situation but those are just a few thoughts that immediately come to mind.

Nikki_Licks 03-25-2008 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966879)
my understanding in how this company does it is thatthey catch them in the act(set up) and then they are presented with a choice when caught with an illegial substance..... rehab or jail.....

It seems the way this company operates doesn't sound like intervention at all and if this (set up) was pulled on me I would not be too happy to say the least and would most likely not cooperate at all.

Friends intervening can be good if done right and if the person is willing to listen and acknowledge that they do need help, but using a company to force some one to quit probably will not work and it could cause allot of resentment towards the people trying to help.

Maybe the Forum is not such a good place to do this....

I wish you guys luck and hope your friend pulls through this.

bufferover 03-25-2008 06:39 AM

Depends of the drugs but no matter what he needs to do other things

O MARINA 03-25-2008 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966853)
there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....




I like how you think. You are a good friend.

severe 03-25-2008 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966741)
should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

if you dont want to enjoy your trip, sure...

cherrylula 03-25-2008 07:59 AM

At an adult webmaster convention?? don't you think that is a terrible place for an intervention??

Someplace away from the party is how you're supposed to do it, and they have to want it anyhow.

If they are going to an adult webmaster convention, drugs are on the schedule already. I would leave them to their own biz. :2 cents:

Interventions never work. Probably some of the best advice in this thread from seasoned users. :1orglaugh

cherrylula 03-25-2008 08:09 AM

..and giving up drugs to drown yourself in the arms of alcoholism isn't okay either. I can't stand seeing a drug addict get "clean" only to get completely trashed drunk every chance they get. THAT isn't cleaning your life up.

Give up alcohol for a year and you'll really see the light. Most people just accept it because its legal.

Alcohol abuse is worse than any drug, and any of you in here pointing the finger at an addict and you drink booze might want to look in the mirror first. An addict is an addict, so be us all.

quesadilla 03-25-2008 08:50 AM

i talked to my interventionist about this and he says terrible idea.

L-Pink 03-25-2008 08:56 AM

The guy is out of town surrounded by his industry peers looking to get business done ..... do it some other time and place if at all.

uno 03-25-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 13968887)
i will be at this intervention

No doubt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 13968887)
i will be th emdoerator

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh sure.



















:upsidedow just kidding man. Sorta.

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 10:01 AM

pretty much the only people against this are the junkies in denial..............

TheLegacy 03-25-2008 10:05 AM

Sleaze you of ALL people should know the value of Tough Love.

Anyone with a drug problem needs to have those who care for them (or in this case a group of strangers) - to humiliate and draw to their attention that Nancy Reagan was right - Just Say No !!

My father if he caught me smoking would stack up on the kitchen table carton's of cigarettes and force me to smoke them to stop me. So if it takes bending a shitload of spoons and using dirty rock salt melting near the 5 last spoons to make them sick and not ever want to do drugs again, then I'm all for it.

Porn Girl 03-25-2008 10:05 AM

I know who you are talking about and I thinks its a good idea

Sexy Rex 03-25-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966741)
I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

pretty sure I know who you're talking about. Sounds like a good idea to me!

Jennyfer 03-25-2008 10:07 AM

You definitely should, it is a great idea.

Xrated J 03-25-2008 10:08 AM

say no to drugs

B O B 03-25-2008 10:08 AM

Hmmm...cant be me...I havent drank in over 5 months...

But I think I know who it is, and its a GREAT IDEA...

TheAmericanCannibal 03-25-2008 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 13966853)
there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....

I hope you have at least 15-20 friends Sleazy....
I good recovery center will set you back about $40,000-$60,000

TDF 03-25-2008 10:11 AM

oh wow.. I definitely think your doing the right thing Scott. Just make sure they are in a good comfortable environment. This person has been out of hand for a few years now

benoitlc666 03-25-2008 10:14 AM

You're doing this one for a reason Sleazy, I'm with you!

SleazyDream 03-25-2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal (Post 13974037)
I hope you have at least 15-20 friends Sleazy....
I good recovery center will set you back about $40,000-$60,000

there's 10 of us in for 4-5K each

Barefootsies 03-25-2008 10:19 AM


Apparently you can start curing anyone by saying this..

"I see a bunch of people that love you like crazy, and they feel like they are losing you. They're going to say what they want to say, and you're going to say what you're going to say, and that's it. Will you listen to them?"

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/817388-intervention.html

Raja 03-25-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porn Girl (Post 13973984)
I know who you are talking about and I thinks its a good idea

Me too. Scott I wish you would have told me earlier about this and I would've come to Phx. Hit me up on ICQ and let me know when your planning it and I'll do my best to come out.

I think some recent business practices only show how far this person will go to fund their addiction.

Your a good man Scott for doing something we should have done a long time ago.


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