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Spunky · 03-24-2008, 09:25 PM

Dope is for dopes.I have tried on a few friends..no way in hell ..they need to want to and even then it's a constant struggle to stay clean

Brad Mitchell · 03-24-2008, 09:31 PM

Dude if there's an intervention in Phoenix count me in

Brad

baddog · 03-24-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

Dope is for dopes.I have tried on a few friends..no way in hell ..they need to want to and even then it's a constant struggle to stay clean

You sound like one of the few in this thread that have actually dealt with a drug abuser.

Coke is not something that can be kicked in a week. It doesn't matter your intentions, if they don't want to quit, they won't.

Unfortunately it usually takes something very drastic for them to see the light, and even then it is a 50/50 deal, at best.

Spunky · 03-24-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You sound like one of the few in this thread that have actually dealt with a drug abuser.

Coke is not something that can be kicked in a week. It doesn't matter your intentions, if they don't want to quit, they won't.

Unfortunately it usually takes something very drastic for them to see the light, and even then it is a 50/50 deal, at best.

Actually was an Ex g/f..she smoked heroin.I had spent over 20k trying to help from methadone to rehab..she refused to quit and I couldn't take any more.She wound up dead at 21.Another buddy was so wrapped up in blow he wound up killing himself by blowing his brains out.
I'm no saint but whenever I hear any potential g/f's mixed up in anything other than weed,I run not walk away.

SleazyDream · 03-24-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Damn it Scott, this better not be me! I haven't been out of my office since Costa Rica and I need to have a good time.
It'll be just my luck, I'll be hitting a line and getting my dick sucked when the door will bust open and it'll be SleazyDream with a straight-jacket.

if I put you in a straight jacket it'll only be cause the hookers I bought you were below your standads and you needed to be restrained so they could fuck you and collect their money.

baddog · 03-24-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

Actually was an Ex g/f..she smoked heroin.I had spent over 20k trying to help from methadone to rehab..she refused to quit and I couldn't take any more.She wound up dead at 21.Another buddy was so wrapped up in blow he wound up killing himself by blowing his brains out.
I'm no saint but whenever I hear any potential g/f's mixed up in anything other than weed,I run not walk away.

Now that is funny. the methadone probably fucked her up more than smoking the heroin.

Spunky · 03-24-2008, 09:50 PM

I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addicted

baddog · 03-24-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addicted

Smoking is for chicks. Try the spike. There is a reason it is so popular.

Spunky · 03-24-2008, 09:58 PM

Never..all I enjoy is the occasional reefer.I'm getting to old for that crap

NickSunshine · 03-24-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Smoking is for chicks. Try the spike. There is a reason it is so popular.

holy shit baddog-

that just gave me a chill.

wheat · 03-24-2008, 10:48 PM

I don't think the unofficial drinking olympics is the place to stage an intervention, but that's just me.

heymatty · 03-24-2008, 10:56 PM

This must be a joke. If not its seriously retarded.

bashbug · 03-24-2008, 11:01 PM

Stupid Stupid Stupid fucking idea.

Get real friends and family, not losers from online, and certainly not at a convention

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-24-2008, 11:06 PM

People who get hooked are weak asses.

Can someone change my nickname to GoneStraightEdge? lol

V_RocKs · 03-24-2008, 11:37 PM

Didn't know you and XXXJAY were that close... but OK...

Rochard · 03-24-2008, 11:59 PM

I fought my battle with drugs and I won. That's not to say that I'm bigger or better than anyone else; A split decision landed me in Marine Corps boot camp at Paris Island for three months. That kicked my drug habit and I'm never ever going back again.

I can't tolerate people doing drugs in my personal life. I would have hauled him into rehab a while ago.

baddog · 03-25-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Didn't know you and XXXJAY were that close... but OK...

Juicy D. Links · 03-25-2008, 02:46 AM

lmk when it is ill bring gthe party gear

XoXoLeah · 03-25-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

"Cocaine is not addicting ... I have friends that have been doing cocaine everyday for more than ten years and they're not addicted"

(Quote, Richard Pryor)

i hate to laugh... cuz its not funny.... but thats fucking funny.

Juicy D. Links · 03-25-2008, 02:54 AM

i will be at this intervention i will be th emdoerator

Madame0120 · 03-25-2008, 03:29 AM

No good deed, goes unpunished.

potter · 03-25-2008, 04:17 AM

I'm just wondering what you feel deserves the intervention? I've lost friends to addiction, people who got so into it it eventually killed them. However, I also have alot of friends who can use drugs alot to party and not "abuse" them.

roly · 03-25-2008, 05:01 AM

rehab is for quitters

BVF · 03-25-2008, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i'm hoping an intervention with a pile of their friends that love this person will help to wake this person up into realizing they DO in fact have a problem.

I really think that you should mind your own business and focus on realizing your OWN happiness........You sit up there in dark cold Canada depressed and the next chance you get to be in some sunshine, you waste energy focusing on another "friend's" business?

You need to snap out of it....And you won't really know what I mean UNTIL you actually snap out of it.

BVF · 03-25-2008, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i will be at this intervention i will be th emdoerator

See Sleazy, this is the exact kind of bullshit I'm talking about......Snap the fuck out of it and let somebody else handle it.....Go on a REAL vacation....

Fuck....

BVF · 03-25-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

The idea of doing an intervention at a webmaster convention is ridiculous. And no, the person does not have to be ready to quit for an intervention to work. The idea is for close family and friends who are affected by the addict to give them an ultimatum and back them into a corner by deciding to have nothing to do with that person anymore or help them, give them a place to live or give them money so the group can pressure them into going to rehab immediately *before* they think they are ready and before they kill themselves or hurt other people.

This is the ONLY other person that has made some real sense in this thread....The rest of y'all are brain dead....Seriously.

dav3 · 03-25-2008, 06:21 AM

You should let them make their own decisions, whether it is for the better or worse. Let nature take it's course.

Even if you try to help, it will most likely back-fire, especially if you get them thrown in jail. You can't help some one who doesn't want help.

viki · 03-25-2008, 06:31 AM

i don't know anything about this person, but i can think of many reasons why this shouldn't be done at a convention.

- people talk and word will get out about who it is. the addict will resent the fact that this is being done in a place where there are so many people he works with and that you are putting his reputation on the line.
- conventions are full of drugs. you'll be asking them to quit something in the middle of what is essentially a big party.
- you'd be putting him in a place where he'd have too many excuses not to quit. words like hypocrite would be slung around, as well as comments about jealousy and trying to destroy his reputation.

again, i don't know anything about the particular situation but those are just a few thoughts that immediately come to mind.

Nikki_Licks · 03-25-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

my understanding in how this company does it is thatthey catch them in the act(set up) and then they are presented with a choice when caught with an illegial substance..... rehab or jail.....

It seems the way this company operates doesn't sound like intervention at all and if this (set up) was pulled on me I would not be too happy to say the least and would most likely not cooperate at all.

Friends intervening can be good if done right and if the person is willing to listen and acknowledge that they do need help, but using a company to force some one to quit probably will not work and it could cause allot of resentment towards the people trying to help.

Maybe the Forum is not such a good place to do this....

I wish you guys luck and hope your friend pulls through this.

bufferover · 03-25-2008, 06:39 AM

Depends of the drugs but no matter what he needs to do other things

O MARINA · 03-25-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....

I like how you think. You are a good friend.

severe · 03-25-2008, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

if you dont want to enjoy your trip, sure...

cherrylula · 03-25-2008, 07:59 AM

At an adult webmaster convention?? don't you think that is a terrible place for an intervention??

Someplace away from the party is how you're supposed to do it, and they have to want it anyhow.

If they are going to an adult webmaster convention, drugs are on the schedule already. I would leave them to their own biz.

Interventions never work. Probably some of the best advice in this thread from seasoned users.

cherrylula · 03-25-2008, 08:09 AM

..and giving up drugs to drown yourself in the arms of alcoholism isn't okay either. I can't stand seeing a drug addict get "clean" only to get completely trashed drunk every chance they get. THAT isn't cleaning your life up.

Give up alcohol for a year and you'll really see the light. Most people just accept it because its legal.

Alcohol abuse is worse than any drug, and any of you in here pointing the finger at an addict and you drink booze might want to look in the mirror first. An addict is an addict, so be us all.

quesadilla · 03-25-2008, 08:50 AM

i talked to my interventionist about this and he says terrible idea.

L-Pink · 03-25-2008, 08:56 AM

The guy is out of town surrounded by his industry peers looking to get business done ..... do it some other time and place if at all.

uno · 03-25-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i will be at this intervention

No doubt.

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

i will be th emdoerator

sure.

just kidding man. Sorta.

SleazyDream · 03-25-2008, 10:01 AM

pretty much the only people against this are the junkies in denial..............

TheLegacy · 03-25-2008, 10:05 AM

Sleaze you of ALL people should know the value of Tough Love.

Anyone with a drug problem needs to have those who care for them (or in this case a group of strangers) - to humiliate and draw to their attention that Nancy Reagan was right - Just Say No !!

My father if he caught me smoking would stack up on the kitchen table carton's of cigarettes and force me to smoke them to stop me. So if it takes bending a shitload of spoons and using dirty rock salt melting near the 5 last spoons to make them sick and not ever want to do drugs again, then I'm all for it.

Porn Girl · 03-25-2008, 10:05 AM

I know who you are talking about and I thinks its a good idea

Sexy Rex · 03-25-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I can tell someone who I think is a friend is doing way too many drugs.

they need help.

should I initiate an intervention in phoenix?

pretty sure I know who you're talking about. Sounds like a good idea to me!

Jennyfer · 03-25-2008, 10:07 AM

You definitely should, it is a great idea.

Xrated J · 03-25-2008, 10:08 AM

say no to drugs

B O B · 03-25-2008, 10:08 AM

Hmmm...cant be me...I havent drank in over 5 months...

But I think I know who it is, and its a GREAT IDEA...

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-25-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

there's a few of us who are willing to put in a few grand each for this person and actually have them hauled away to a rehab center.

i'm wondering if this would be a good idea....

i know this person will be using in phoenix....

I hope you have at least 15-20 friends Sleazy....
I good recovery center will set you back about $40,000-$60,000

TDF · 03-25-2008, 10:11 AM

oh wow.. I definitely think your doing the right thing Scott. Just make sure they are in a good comfortable environment. This person has been out of hand for a few years now

benoitlc666 · 03-25-2008, 10:14 AM

You're doing this one for a reason Sleazy, I'm with you!

SleazyDream · 03-25-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

I hope you have at least 15-20 friends Sleazy....
I good recovery center will set you back about $40,000-$60,000

there's 10 of us in for 4-5K each

Barefootsies · 03-25-2008, 10:19 AM

Apparently you can start curing anyone by saying this..

"I see a bunch of people that love you like crazy, and they feel like they are losing you. They're going to say what they want to say, and you're going to say what you're going to say, and that's it. Will you listen to them?"

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/817388-intervention.html

Raja · 03-25-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Girl

I know who you are talking about and I thinks its a good idea

Me too. Scott I wish you would have told me earlier about this and I would've come to Phx. Hit me up on ICQ and let me know when your planning it and I'll do my best to come out.

I think some recent business practices only show how far this person will go to fund their addiction.

Your a good man Scott for doing something we should have done a long time ago.

03-24-2008, 09:25 PM	#51
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,949	Dope is for dopes.I have tried on a few friends..no way in hell ..they need to want to and even then it's a constant struggle to stay clean __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

03-24-2008, 09:31 PM	#52
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	Dude if there's an intervention in Phoenix count me in Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

03-24-2008, 09:50 PM	#57
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,949	I agree with that.That has to be one of the worst ways to treat a junkie.Lock them up in a cell with counseling and let them sweat it out.Even then when they get out all they want and think about is another fix and will always think about it.A near death experience will scare some away from it.I never had the urge to bang anything or smoke that crap.Although I did try it and the high was incredible.thank god I didn't become addicted __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

03-24-2008, 09:58 PM	#59
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,949	Never..all I enjoy is the occasional reefer.I'm getting to old for that crap __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

03-24-2008, 10:48 PM	#61
wheat Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 421	I don't think the unofficial drinking olympics is the place to stage an intervention, but that's just me. __________________

03-24-2008, 10:56 PM	#62
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	This must be a joke. If not its seriously retarded. __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

03-24-2008, 11:01 PM	#63
bashbug Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 929	Stupid Stupid Stupid fucking idea. Get real friends and family, not losers from online, and certainly not at a convention

03-24-2008, 11:06 PM	#64
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	People who get hooked are weak asses. Can someone change my nickname to GoneStraightEdge? lol

03-24-2008, 11:37 PM	#65
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Didn't know you and XXXJAY were that close... but OK...

03-24-2008, 11:59 PM	#66
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,598	I fought my battle with drugs and I won. That's not to say that I'm bigger or better than anyone else; A split decision landed me in Marine Corps boot camp at Paris Island for three months. That kicked my drug habit and I'm never ever going back again. I can't tolerate people doing drugs in my personal life. I would have hauled him into rehab a while ago. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

03-25-2008, 02:46 AM	#68
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	lmk when it is ill bring gthe party gear

03-25-2008, 02:54 AM	#70
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	i will be at this intervention i will be th emdoerator

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03-25-2008, 04:17 AM	#72
potter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 6,559	I'm just wondering what you feel deserves the intervention? I've lost friends to addiction, people who got so into it it eventually killed them. However, I also have alot of friends who can use drugs alot to party and not "abuse" them. __________________

03-25-2008, 05:01 AM	#73
roly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,844	rehab is for quitters

03-25-2008, 06:21 AM	#77
dav3 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,348	You should let them make their own decisions, whether it is for the better or worse. Let nature take it's course. Even if you try to help, it will most likely back-fire, especially if you get them thrown in jail. You can't help some one who doesn't want help. __________________ Webmasters :: Juicy Ads :: ACWM :: Crak Revenue :: Money Tree

03-25-2008, 06:31 AM	#78
viki Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,640	i don't know anything about this person, but i can think of many reasons why this shouldn't be done at a convention. - people talk and word will get out about who it is. the addict will resent the fact that this is being done in a place where there are so many people he works with and that you are putting his reputation on the line. - conventions are full of drugs. you'll be asking them to quit something in the middle of what is essentially a big party. - you'd be putting him in a place where he'd have too many excuses not to quit. words like hypocrite would be slung around, as well as comments about jealousy and trying to destroy his reputation. again, i don't know anything about the particular situation but those are just a few thoughts that immediately come to mind. __________________ viki [at] realsexcash [dot] com 228 263 454

03-25-2008, 06:39 AM	#80
bufferover Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 25,203	Depends of the drugs but no matter what he needs to do other things

03-25-2008, 07:59 AM	#83
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	At an adult webmaster convention?? don't you think that is a terrible place for an intervention?? Someplace away from the party is how you're supposed to do it, and they have to want it anyhow. If they are going to an adult webmaster convention, drugs are on the schedule already. I would leave them to their own biz. Interventions never work. Probably some of the best advice in this thread from seasoned users.

03-25-2008, 08:09 AM	#84
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	..and giving up drugs to drown yourself in the arms of alcoholism isn't okay either. I can't stand seeing a drug addict get "clean" only to get completely trashed drunk every chance they get. THAT isn't cleaning your life up. Give up alcohol for a year and you'll really see the light. Most people just accept it because its legal. Alcohol abuse is worse than any drug, and any of you in here pointing the finger at an addict and you drink booze might want to look in the mirror first. An addict is an addict, so be us all.

03-25-2008, 08:50 AM	#85
quesadilla Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 360	i talked to my interventionist about this and he says terrible idea.

03-25-2008, 08:56 AM	#86
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	The guy is out of town surrounded by his industry peers looking to get business done ..... do it some other time and place if at all.

03-25-2008, 10:01 AM	#88
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03-25-2008, 10:05 AM	#89
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03-25-2008, 10:05 AM	#90
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03-25-2008, 10:07 AM	#92
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03-25-2008, 10:08 AM	#93
Xrated J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 4,347	say no to drugs

03-25-2008, 10:08 AM	#94
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03-25-2008, 10:11 AM	#96
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03-25-2008, 10:14 AM	#97
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03-25-2008, 10:19 AM	#99
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