U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 4,000.

[Martin]

Plus 30,000 "injuries"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ef=mpstoryview

Money
$505,277,846,763 going up a couple grand every second.
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Almost 90k in Iraqi deaths.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Still think it was a good idea to go in there?

[tranza]

Uhmmmm.... I've read something about 1M Iraq deaths just yesterday.

[Violetta]

very sad... War is SOOO 1940ish...

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Martin

U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 4,000.

Originally Posted by tranza

Uhmmmm.... I've read something about 1M Iraq deaths just yesterday.

And the only question: WHAT FOR?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

And the only question: WHAT FOR?

Not a thing

[uno]

We're still there?

[D Ghost]

Originally Posted by uno

We're still there?

tell me about it....

[bobby666]

i didn't send them to iraq

[V_RocKs]

Bush will be tried for war crimes.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Not a thing

I just wonder how the US kids can watch Disney's Aladdin cartoon, play "Prince of Persia" and wish death to those evil Iraqi monsters that wanted to kill papa Bush and attacked NY Twins. That's out of my mind, really

And how about those US kids, who's fathers died while bringing the "freedom and democracy" to Iraq?

[uno]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Bush will be tried for war crimes.

No he won't.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Bush will be tried for war crimes.

He won't. The USA don't support international tribunal for war criminals. I guess they have a SERIOUS reason for that

[Gouge]

Clinton Years (5 years)-- 5119
Iraq War (5 years)-- 4,000
Batan Death March (one week)-- 10,000
Battle of Guadalcanal (186 days)-- 7,099
Battle of Guam (20 Days)-- 3,000
Operation Market Garden (9 days)-- 3,664
Battle of the Bulge (41 days)-- 19,276
Battle of Iwo Jima (39 days)-- 6,821
Battle of Pusan Perimeter (61 days-Korea)-- 6,706

[J. Falcon]

And didnt Mccain say the war could last 100 years?

[J. Falcon]

Waiting for Daddyhalltbucks or whatever his name is to step in here and say that the future will show how the Iraq war was just and necessary, and how W. Bush is a hero among men.

[UniversalPassLorence]

It's sad. Lots of Families are destroyed

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by Gouge

Clinton Years (5 years)-- 5119
Iraq War (5 years)-- 4,000
Batan Death March (one week)-- 10,000
Battle of Guadalcanal (186 days)-- 7,099
Battle of Guam (20 Days)-- 3,000
Operation Market Garden (9 days)-- 3,664
Battle of the Bulge (41 days)-- 19,276
Battle of Iwo Jima (39 days)-- 6,821
Battle of Pusan Perimeter (61 days-Korea)-- 6,706

Dont try and confuse the little kids on GFY with the facts..... it will just make them have a tantrum.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Gouge

Clinton Years (5 years)-- 5119
Iraq War (5 years)-- 4,000
Batan Death March (one week)-- 10,000
Battle of Guadalcanal (186 days)-- 7,099
Battle of Guam (20 Days)-- 3,000
Operation Market Garden (9 days)-- 3,664
Battle of the Bulge (41 days)-- 19,276
Battle of Iwo Jima (39 days)-- 6,821
Battle of Pusan Perimeter (61 days-Korea)-- 6,706

Those stats are incorrect.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Martin

Plus 30,000 "injuries"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ef=mpstoryview

Money
$505,277,846,763 going up a couple grand every second.
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Almost 90k in Iraqi deaths.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Still think it was a good idea to go in there?

Yup. I do.

[xmas13]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlzdZqSVbJ4

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Those stats are incorrect.

I obtained them directly from the Congressional Research Service report to congress 2 weeks ago. You can find the original signed, approved and filed already in the congressional library database.

Heres the link to a copy http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

[DjiXas]

You do all remember why it started at the 1st place, right?

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

And didnt Mccain say the war could last 100 years?

That's easy for him to predict... he won't be around for the last 96 for anyone to tell him he was wrong.

(Okay crude joke, I know. But honestly, a presidential race will add a few years to your life and if elected, yikes.)

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Gouge

Clinton Years (5 years)-- 5119
Iraq War (5 years)-- 4,000

So in the last 5 years not other miltary deaths ocured except in iraq? since you are being a douche and including EVERY single militray death under Clinton.

Secondly don't include battles fom WWII or WWI( wars my grandfather and great grandfather fought in and were WORTH going to war over ) and compare that to this war. Not even fucking close. Want to compare it to something compare it to Viet Nam and other worhtless war were guys died for shit.

[xmas13]

The U.S. Army is not killing its own soldiers or Iraqis, terrorists do.

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by xmas13

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GlzdZqSVbJ4

I see your Army recruiting video and raise you Bomb Saddam video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60575989378777

[xmas13]

There are also many terrorists within the United States.

Wal-Mart receives bomb threats on a daily basis.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um...=Search+ News

[Martin]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Dont try and confuse the little kids on GFY with the facts..... it will just make them have a tantrum.

Yeah because 4000 lives + 30,000 difigured people is nothing over a period of 5 years.

Never mine the 90,000 + Iraqi Men, Women and Children too.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Gouge

I obtained them directly from the Congressional Research Service report to congress 2 weeks ago. You can find the original signed, approved and filed already in the congressional library database.

Heres the link to a copy http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

Then why did you leave out all the non-military deaths under Bush but added them in under Clinton?

Page 11 shows total death by year.

Clinton (8 years) - 7500
Bush (6 years) - 8792

2007 hasn't been released but it will be close to 2,000 (we had more deaths in Iraq than any previous year). By the end of Bush's term, the number will be close to 11,000 deaths.

That is a sharp increase of deaths, especially considering accidental military deaths were falling almost every year under Clinton as technology and safety got better. It will account to nearly 3,500 more deaths under Bush than Clinton. This doesn't include the nearly 30,000 wounded Americans and 600 amputees.

You included deaths by illness, suicide, and accident under Clinton, but not Bush. As I said, you misrepresented the facts. Your own data proves it.

[IllTestYourGirls]

How many of the 180,000 contractors have died?

[uno]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Then why did you leave out all the non-military deaths under Bush but added them in under Clinton?

Isn't it obvious why?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by xmas13

The U.S. Army is not killing its own soldiers or Iraqis, terrorists do.

So someone who defends their land against an invasion is a terrorist? In any case the terrorist are the invaders.


And if you think sending ppl off to fight in a bullshit war started on false pretenses is not murder, then Im sorry to say you're wrong. And that's not even mentioning all the civilians you put in harms way, and killed.

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by GatorB

So in the last 5 years not other miltary deaths ocured except in iraq? since you are being a douche and including EVERY single militray death under Clinton.

Secondly don't include battles fom WWII or WWI( wars my grandfather and great grandfather fought in and were WORTH going to war over ) and compare that to this war. Not even fucking close. Want to compare it to something compare it to Viet Nam and other worhtless war were guys died for shit.

Im not the one who did the comparison or came up with the numbers, the Congressional Research Service did.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

How many of the 180,000 contractors have died?

As of June 2007, over 1,000 contractors have been killed, 12,000+ wounded.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Gouge

Im not the one who did the comparison or came up with the numbers, the Congressional Research Service did.

He is saying that you didn't count the suicide, illness, and accidental deaths under Bush, but you did under Clinton. The CRS displayed the numbers factually, you are the one that didn't factually list the numbers under Bush.

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So someone who defends their land against an invasion is a terrorist? In any case the terrorist are the invaders.

The Soviet Union, the U.S. and Britain "invaded" continental Europe.

Iraq was liberated not invaded.

The U.S. Army has personnel in 150+ countries, military bases in Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia....etc.

[chelo - adultcopywriters]

the real question is:

What are you guys gonna do about it?

Are you going to stand still in front of your computers or are you going to at least vote for whoever but McCain?

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Iraq was liberated not invaded.

Liberating is awesome!

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by xmas13

The Soviet Union, the U.S. and Britain "invaded" continental Europe.

Iraq was liberated not invaded.

Here we go, another person comparing WWII to the war in Iraq, another person actually believing this war was about liberating ppl half a world away. It's amazing people think like you do.


I thought the war was about WMD? No, it was about the terrorist ties between Sadamm and Al Qaueda? Oh no, you're right, it was about the poor Iraqui people, made to suffer under a dictator installed by the US government?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that bullshit about a war for freedom? For freedom for people's country who you are murdering everyday, who you also tortured? A fucking disgrace it what it is.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Iraq was liberated not invaded.

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Liberating is awesome!

If the FBI didn't exist, some degenerate would blow up your local Wal-Mart superstore with your entire family inside.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...at&btnG=Search

[theking]

Originally Posted by xmas13

The Soviet Union, the U.S. and Britain "invaded" continental Europe.

Iraq was liberated not invaded.

The U.S. Army has personnel in 150+ countries, military bases in Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia....etc.

Ahh...didn't Germany invade Europe and the U.S.A...Britain...along with other allies liberate Europe from Germany? The USSR kept control of the countries that it "liberated".

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by xmas13

Iraq was liberated not invaded.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by xmas13

If the FBI didn't exist, some degenerate would blow up your local Wal-Mart superstore with your entire family inside.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...at&btnG=Search

Ok? What does that have to do with Iraq?

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Then why did you leave out all the non-military deaths under Bush but added them in under Clinton?

Page 11 shows total death by year.

Clinton (8 years) - 7500
Bush (6 years) - 8792

2007 hasn't been released but it will be close to 2,000 (we had more deaths in Iraq than any previous year). By the end of Bush's term, the number will be close to 11,000 deaths.

That is a sharp increase of deaths, especially considering accidental military deaths were falling almost every year under Clinton as technology and safety got better. It will account to nearly 3,500 more deaths under Bush than Clinton. This doesn't include the nearly 30,000 wounded Americans and 600 amputees.

You included deaths by illness, suicide, and accident under Clinton, but not Bush. As I said, you misrepresented the facts. Your own data proves it.

First, I didn?t add or subtract anything, I didn?t do the companion or come up with any of the numbers. I posted what was generated by CRS and congress approved. You can find detailed numbers on Defense Link if you wish to criticize them and email them about the discrepance. And if you want it broke down even further you can go to icasualties.org where I obtained that list.

The numbers are/where listed as a direct comparison between the Iraq War/conflict vs. Major Battles Since WWII. Once again not my numbers.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by Gouge

First, I didn?t add or subtract anything, I didn?t do the companion or come up with any of the numbers. I posted what was generated by CRS and congress approved. You can find detailed numbers on Defense Link if you wish to criticize them and email them about the discrepance. And if you want it broke down even further you can go to icasualties.org where I obtained that list.

The numbers are/where listed as a direct comparison between the Iraq War/conflict vs. Major Battles Since WWII. Once again not my numbers.

You are not comprehending. When you posted stats on deaths under Clinton, you included all deaths including suicide, illness, and accidents. Under Bush, you didn't include these numbers. These numbers are listed on page 11 of the report you linked to. You simply left them out when you posted them.

I don't see why this is hard to understand. Just go to page 11 of that report that you cited.

[xmas13]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Ok? What does that have to do with Iraq?

TERRORISM.

Sunni terrorists don't fight "occupation", they want control of the country back. Sunnis are a religious minority in Iraq, Arab nationalists who dominated Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

[theking]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Here we go, another person comparing WWII to the war in Iraq, another person actually believing this war was about liberating ppl half a world away. It's amazing people think like you do.


I thought the war was about WMD? No, it was about the terrorist ties between Sadamm and Al Qaueda? Oh no, you're right, it was about the poor Iraqui people, made to suffer under a dictator installed by the US government?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that bullshit about a war for freedom? For freedom for people's country who you are murdering everyday, who you also tortured? A fucking disgrace it what it is.

The invasion of Iraq had/has multiple strategic purposes...WMD...was just the drumbeat used by the Administration...but was never the primary reason for the invasion...and only shortsigted people would think that it was for any reasons other than long term strategic purposes.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by theking

The invasion of Iraq had/has multiple strategic purposes...WMD...was just the drumbeat used by the Administration...but was never the primary reason for the invasion...and only shortsigted people would think that it was for any reasons other than long term strategic purposes.

So you're basically saying they lied to the entire country, congress and United Nations? In other words, you're government is corrupt?

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by xmas13

TERRORISM.

Sunni terrorists don't fight "occupation", they want control of the country back. Sunnis are a religious minority in Iraq, Arab nationalists who dominated Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

There wasn't much terrorism in Iraq before we got there. And zero terrorism directed at the United States. Still, what does this have to do with my local Wal-Mart?