U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 4,000. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I don't see why this is hard to understand. Just go to page 11 of that report that you cited.

U.S. soldiers are heroes. Period.

BTW, what's your dirty little secret? You obviously don't care about the U.S. Army or Arabs, so......

J. Falcon · 03-24-2008, 01:22 PM

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TERRORISM.

Sunni terrorists don't fight "occupation", they want control of the country back. Sunnis are a religious minority in Iraq, Arab nationalists who dominated Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

You're obviously a victim of the Fox News syndrome, which leads to paranoia, lack of objective thinking and plain stupidity.

J. Falcon · 03-24-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

U.S. soldiers are heroes. Period.

Whatever you say.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

U.S. soldiers are heroes. Period.

I agree. Never argued otherwise. They are put in a shitty spot and handle it the best they can.

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Originally Posted by xmas13

BTW, what's your dirty little secret? You obviously don't care about the U.S. Army or Arabs, so......

I don't care about the U.S. Army because I posted the actual number of deaths? So not wanting them to die makes me anti-US Army? That makes no sense.

I'm not the one wanting them giving up their lives in a pointless war and then lying about the number of deaths on a message board.

J. Falcon · 03-24-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

U.S. soldiers are heroes. Period.

theking · 03-24-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

So you're basically saying they lied to the entire country, congress and United Nations? In other words, you're government is corrupt?

They did not lie about WMD's as the consensus of all of our fifteen intel agencies...as well as all of the major intel agencies in the world...including the UN...was that Iraq possesed unaccounted for WMD's and was trying to build more. The consensus was wrong but was not a lie and certainly was not the first time that intel has been wrong in a major way...and will not be the last time. The Administration thought that using WMD's as the drumbeat to invasion would fly better than telling the world as well as the American people that we were going to take preemptive control of a country for long term strategic purposes. Every President that I have lived under has lied to the American people and the world about multiple things...including the reasons for the use of the military...but it is common for governments to lie about one thing or another.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You're obviously a victim of the Fox News syndrome, which leads to paranoia, lack of objective thinking and plain stupidity.

Another Pussyserver-like GFY self-declared genius.
Who the fuck are you? A rocket scientist? You speaking as a counterterrorism specialist?
Please give me a break.

GatorB · 03-24-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

U.S. soldiers are heroes. Period.

doesn't mean they are not dying in vain over lies. Every guy who died in Viet Nam died in vain.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:37 PM

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So maybe Blacks are criminals because 5% to 10% of Black adults are behind bars at any given time?

J. Falcon · 03-24-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

Another Pussyserver-like GFY self-declared genius.
Who the fuck are you? A rocket scientist? You speaking as a counterterrorism specialist?
Please give me a break.

When did I declare my self a genius at anything? You're the one speaking out you're ass.

GatorB · 03-24-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

Another Pussyserver-like GFY self-declared genius.
Who the fuck are you? A rocket scientist? You speaking as a counterterrorism specialist?
Please give me a break.

Guys like you and ther other neo-con dipshits love war, but funny how you are posting here and not over there walking the walk. Easy to support something when it's not YOUR ass in the line of fire. Every Bush cock sucking monther fucker needs to join the military and ask to be sent to Iraq or STFU already. PERIOD.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:40 PM

The double standards of pseudo-pacifists and terrorist sympathizers are incredible.
But what could you expect from people who identify with terrorists from a remote desert?

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

The double standards of pseudo-pacifists and terrorist sympathizers are incredible.
But what could you expect from people who identify with terrorists from a remote desert?

No one in this thread sympathizes with terrorists. They've just stated that the Iraq war is dumb and that American men and women are dying in vain. The terrorists were not in Iraq till we got there.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:44 PM

The terrorists were not in Iraq? Ask the Kurds or Kuwaitis.

GatorB · 03-24-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

The double standards of pseudo-pacifists and terrorist sympathizers are incredible.
But what could you expect from people who identify with terrorists from a remote desert?

fuck you turd. I don't have double standards and I don't sympathize with anyone. if it's anyone that sides with terrorists adnd dictators it's YOU. But you're to fucking retarded to see that. You're a fucking coward. Your mother should have used a coathanger and aborted you before you oozed your way out of her nasty STD infected whore hole.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

The terrorists were not in Iraq? Ask the Kurds or Kuwaitis.

I am not a Kurd or a Kuwaiti. I was more concerned with the ones that attacked us.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:48 PM

http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...tis_uncovered/
"The bodies of 41 Kuwaitis believed killed during the 1991 Persian Gulf war have been unearthed in southern Iraq, one of 295 mass graves containing thousands of Saddam Hussein's victims."

GatorB · 03-24-2008, 01:48 PM

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The terrorists were not in Iraq? Ask the Kurds or Kuwaitis.

YOU = RETARD.

Seriously, you just proven yourself a retard.

GatorB · 03-24-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...tis_uncovered/
"The bodies of 41 Kuwaitis believed killed during the 1991 Persian Gulf war have been unearthed in southern Iraq, one of 295 mass graves containing thousands of Saddam Hussein's victims."

And that has what to do with terrorists?

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Guys like you and ther other neo-con dipshits love war, but funny how you are posting here and not over there walking the walk. Easy to support something when it's not YOUR ass in the line of fire. Every Bush cock sucking monther fucker needs to join the military and ask to be sent to Iraq or STFU already. PERIOD.

He is a member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists. Don't discredit his great service.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...tis_uncovered/
"The bodies of 41 Kuwaitis believed killed during the 1991 Persian Gulf war have been unearthed in southern Iraq, one of 295 mass graves containing thousands of Saddam Hussein's victims."

I'm uncertain as to what the death of Kuwait people back in 1991 during a war has to do with terrorism in my country.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 01:57 PM

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I am not a Kurd or a Kuwaiti. I was more concerned with the ones that attacked us.

The Middle East is the most vital region for the world economy and its importance is increasing by the day.

directfiesta · 03-24-2008, 01:57 PM

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The double standards of pseudo-pacifists and terrorist sympathizers are incredible.
But what could you expect from people who identify with terrorists from a remote desert?

you really are a sick puppy ....

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 02:01 PM

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you really are a sick puppy ....

Strong argument.

Gouge · 03-24-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

You are not comprehending. When you posted stats on deaths under Clinton, you included all deaths including suicide, illness, and accidents. Under Bush, you didn't include these numbers. These numbers are listed on page 11 of the report you linked to. You simply left them out when you posted them.

I don't see why this is hard to understand. Just go to page 11 of that report that you cited.

I comprehended what you said just fine, that?s why I clearly said in my last post that "The numbers are/where listed as a direct comparison between the Iraq War/conflict vs. Major Battles Since WWII."

According to the Department of Defense military casualty information those numbers are correct and include Non-hostile deaths and include those caused by accident, illness, homicide, suicide, terrorist attack, or other undetermined causes.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

Hers a complete list including all Non-hostile deaths.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

Looks like the numbers are correct.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 02:10 PM

Boycott oil companies.

You all make me laugh. Ungrateful bitches living the good life at the expensive of the rest of the world, and complaining about the ones that make it possible, business leaders, polticians, the us military.

It's so hypocrite.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge

I comprehended what you said just fine, that?s why I clearly said in my last post that "The numbers are/where listed as a direct comparison between the Iraq War/conflict vs. Major Battles Since WWII."

According to the Department of Defense military casualty information those numbers are correct and include Non-hostile deaths and include those caused by accident, illness, homicide, suicide, terrorist attack, or other undetermined causes.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

Hers a complete list including all Non-hostile deaths.

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx

Looks like the numbers are correct.

I'm talking about your numbers under Clinton and numbers under Bush. There was only 1 hostile death recorded under Clinton. I'm not talking about the numbers during WW2, etc.

xmas13 · 03-24-2008, 02:14 PM

I have respect for one American far left terrorist, Theodore Kaczynski, for exposing this fraud called "leftism".

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Indust...and_Its_Future

You all speak non-sense, emotion, pussy crap. Business, political, military leaders use their brain.

I'm done for now, bye bye the frustrated losers.

DaddyHalbucks · 03-24-2008, 02:16 PM

Despite the costs, it was still the right thing to do, and time will prove that to be true. A brutal dictator is gone, and the nation is rebuilding. It won't be easy though.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 02:18 PM

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Despite the costs, it was still the right thing to do, and time will prove that to be true. A brutal dictator is gone, and the nation is rebuilding. It won't be easy though.

Then why did you not fight in it?

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 02:23 PM

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Then why did you not fight in it?

And I'm not trying to be snarky by asking either. It's a serious question. There are a lot of people who are passionate about the issue and believe this was necessary for our safety. Yet not necessary enough to enlist.

just a punk · 03-24-2008, 02:31 PM

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So someone who defends their land against an invasion is a terrorist? In any case the terrorist are the invaders.

Underlined and mark out. Actually I wanted to say the same thing. If China invade USA just because they don't like the US system. Could I call the US defenders (is there any) the terrorists, or it will be wrong to apply such a name to the ppl. that fighting for their country against the fuckin' invaders?

just a punk · 03-24-2008, 02:33 PM

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Iraq was liberated not invaded.

LOL Would you like to be liberated by China? I guess you will be happy to be "liberated" that way. Right?

Gouge · 03-24-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I'm talking about your numbers under Clinton and numbers under Bush. There was only 1 hostile death recorded under Clinton. I'm not talking about the numbers during WW2, etc.

I knew that, thanks for stating the obvious.

just a punk · 03-24-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

TERRORISM.

Agreed, everything that Bush is doing in Iraq is TERRORISM.. He already killed over ONE MILLION civilians. Isn't that enough for a real terrorist, or the number deaths should be higher? How much?

just a punk · 03-24-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

U.S. soldiers are heroes. Period.

BTW, what's your dirty little secret? You obviously don't care about the U.S. Army or Arabs, so......

Would you like to say that Nazi soldier were heroes to? Where are you live then, in Latvia, Ukraine or may be in Estonia?

just a punk · 03-24-2008, 02:39 PM

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Momy, I wanna be such a great hero as this brave US solder!

just a punk · 03-24-2008, 02:40 PM

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So what? You wanna surpass Stalin and Mao? Go ahead!

Rochard · 03-24-2008, 03:58 PM

We lost 10k dead Marines in one battle in WWII. I can live with 4k dead.

GatorB · 03-24-2008, 04:09 PM

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We lost 10k dead Marines in one battle in WWII. I can live with 4k dead.

A) comparing the 2 is rediculous.

B) sure YOU can live with it because you are a pussy who won't go and fight yourself. Put up or shut the fuck up.

C) I would LOVE to see you in person tell a room full of families of fallen soldier that you can "live with" their loved ones deaths. Of course you won't because as I said you're pussy that says shit on an internet board they wouldn't say to real people.

papill0n · 03-24-2008, 04:09 PM

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The U.S. Army is not killing its own soldiers or Iraqis, terrorists do.

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So someone who defends their land against an invasion is a terrorist? In any case the terrorist are the invaders.

And if you think sending ppl off to fight in a bullshit war started on false pretenses is not murder, then Im sorry to say you're wrong. And that's not even mentioning all the civilians you put in harms way, and killed.

Exactly Falcon. How dare Iraqi's stand up and fight for their own country.

directfiesta · 03-24-2008, 04:10 PM

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Strong argument.

I have a 5 year old niece ... I don't argue with her either

papill0n · 03-24-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xmas13

The double standards of pseudo-pacifists and terrorist sympathizers are incredible.
But what could you expect from people who identify with terrorists from a remote desert?

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The Middle East is the most vital region for the world economy and its importance is increasing by the day.

One minute its just a remote desert and the next it is the most vital region for the world economy.

you = one very confused individual

directfiesta · 03-24-2008, 05:04 PM

stickyfingerz · 03-24-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I'm talking about your numbers under Clinton and numbers under Bush. There was only 1 hostile death recorded under Clinton. I'm not talking about the numbers during WW2, etc.

1 Death? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)

Eighteen American soldiers died and 73 were wounded (another American soldier, Delta operator SFC Matt Rierson, was killed in a mortar attack two days later). Among UN forces, 1 Malaysian soldier died and 7 were wounded, along with 2 Pakistanis.

J. Falcon · 03-24-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We lost 10k dead Marines in one battle in WWII. I can live with 4k dead.

You can live with it? That has to be the most selfish comment I've ver heard.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 07:21 PM

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1 Death? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)

Eighteen American soldiers died and 73 were wounded (another American soldier, Delta operator SFC Matt Rierson, was killed in a mortar attack two days later). Among UN forces, 1 Malaysian soldier died and 7 were wounded, along with 2 Pakistanis.

I was thinking the same thing when I went through it, but that is what the DOD classified:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

Maybe they put them under homicides? I don't know how the DOD classifies deaths.

pocketkangaroo · 03-24-2008, 07:22 PM

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We lost 10k dead Marines in one battle in WWII. I can live with 4k dead.

Of course you can. It's not you fighting over there. Chickenhawks just talk about war as if it's a movie.

SomeCreep · 03-24-2008, 07:43 PM

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Plus 30,000 "injuries"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/...ef=mpstoryview

Money
$505,277,846,763 going up a couple grand every second.
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Almost 90k in Iraqi deaths.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Still think it was a good idea to go in there?

Lol, and McCain has said we might need to stay there another 60 years.

How is it people can so severely lose perspective of reality?

stickyfingerz · 03-24-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I was thinking the same thing when I went through it, but that is what the DOD classified:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

Maybe they put them under homicides? I don't know how the DOD classifies deaths.

Ya that is odd.

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