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Old 03-16-2008, 10:04 AM   #1
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Do you think that Obama's 20 year relationship

...to a preacher that has been a radical since the '60's...a racist...and anti America...exclude him from being the President?
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do you think that all of your mental illness's should stop you from posting on internet forums?
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How you could call him "anti America" I do not know...He is exercising his right as an American to preach what he wants.

No, I don't it should affect the outcome of President. HOWEVER, I said should. The media can spin whatever they want to these dumb inhabitants of America. They seem to get suckered right in to whatever their TV tells them. They don't "have time" to deal with politics in there busy lives of Work, Partying and MTV so they believe the sound clips and vote for what "sounds good" on TV and what there uneducated friends think.

So it is very possible that something so trivial may sway the idiots of America and have an effect on the voting. Only time will tell if these red state slack jawed yokels put down their moonshine, guns and bibles, and wake the fuck up and realize that they supported the downfall of the dollar and the country and laughed at us the whole time it was happening.
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I think it taints him a bit yeah. That preacher married the Obama's and baptised their children after all. He may be like a crazy uncle that everyone ignores at a family reunion, but then why dont you change churches, yikes what a nut.

It would be much more impactful if this video came out AFTER he was the nominee, because a shitload of america was probably just dumbstruck watching this preacher go on and on like he did. McCain is going to use the hell out of it if Obama wins, and it's going to sting too. You know they'll fight as dirty as they possibly can, and I dont think Obama has it in him to take his gloves off. He hasn't yet, and it's critical that he be able to.

So in some sense, yeah it'll hurt. But by all appearances, it wont be Clinton who slings it. It'll be media, and McCain. It's time for a democratic president again, and I want the one who is most likely to win to be the nominee. This type of shit hurts when it's been a part of your life every sunday.
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do you think that all of your mental illness's should stop you from posting on internet forums?
Do you think you can tell the members when and where you received your Doctorate...when and where it was that you examined me...and identify the specific "mental illness's" that I suffer with...doctor. Thank you very much.
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for the third presidential election in a row.. there are no good choices.... and the decline of an empire continues.
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Do you think you can tell the members when and where you received your Doctorate...when and where it was that you examined me...and identify the specific "mental illness's" that I suffer with...doctor. Thank you very much.
well.... thats a bit like me pointing and saying "thats the sun in the sky"... and you responding by saying "can you tell me where you got your degree in astronomy..."
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Regardless, the QUESTION was a good valid timely one. Kill the messenger in a new thread, lmao.
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How you could call him "anti America" I do not know...He is exercising his right as an American to preach what he wants.

No, I don't it should affect the outcome of President. HOWEVER, I said should. The media can spin whatever they want to these dumb inhabitants of America. They seem to get suckered right in to whatever their TV tells them. They don't "have time" to deal with politics in there busy lives of Work, Partying and MTV so they believe the sound clips and vote for what "sounds good" on TV and what there uneducated friends think.

So it is very possible that something so trivial may sway the idiots of America and have an effect on the voting. Only time will tell if these red state slack jawed yokels put down their moonshine, guns and bibles, and wake the fuck up and realize that they supported the downfall of the dollar and the country and laughed at us the whole time it was happening.
you are very right
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He is clearly a racist .. you cant go to church with a radical preacher for 20 years and not agree with the majourity of his views.

Obama just says what his publicity team tells him to say ... he is only pretty speeches and nothing of substance so I honestly don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Though America deserves him ... they are mostly uneducated idiots.. and if you think the american dollar cant go lower just wait
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well.... thats a bit like me pointing and saying "thats the sun in the sky"... and you responding by saying "can you tell me where you got your degree in astronomy..."
So is it that you do not have a Doctorate...have never examined me...and cannot identify the specific "mental illness's" that I suffer with? If that is the case feel free to as you do not know what you the fuck you are talking about...now do you?
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How you could call him "anti America" I do not know...He is exercising his right as an American to preach what he wants.

No, I don't it should affect the outcome of President. HOWEVER, I said should. The media can spin whatever they want to these dumb inhabitants of America. They seem to get suckered right in to whatever their TV tells them. They don't "have time" to deal with politics in there busy lives of Work, Partying and MTV so they believe the sound clips and vote for what "sounds good" on TV and what there uneducated friends think.

So it is very possible that something so trivial may sway the idiots of America and have an effect on the voting. Only time will tell if these red state slack jawed yokels put down their moonshine, guns and bibles, and wake the fuck up and realize that they supported the downfall of the dollar and the country and laughed at us the whole time it was happening.
He exercised his right to preach what he wanted to and it included anti America rhetoric.
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He is clearly a racist .. you cant go to church with a radical preacher for 20 years and not agree with the majourity of his views.
Bingo. If he did not agree with his sermons he would be attending church elsewhere. Guaranteed
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So is it that you do not have a Doctorate...have never examined me...and cannot identify the specific "mental illness's" that I suffer with? If that is the case feel free to as you do not know what you the fuck you are talking about...now do you?
old, bitter and angry much?
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for the third presidential election in a row.. there are no good choices.... and the decline of an empire continues.
I concur...there are not any good choices. The last election...for the first time in my voting life...I did not vote because I could not bring myself to cast a vote for either nominee. It may also turn out to be my decision this time around...but I have not made that decision at this point in time.
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Bingo. If he did not agree with his sermons he would be attending church elsewhere. Guaranteed
It is apparent to me that it explains his wife's comment about being proud of America for the first time in her life and probably is indicative of his thinking.
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old, bitter and angry much?
None of the above...thank you very much.
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His sermons werent so far off base. For the lower middle class to poor black people america is not the world of opportunity. We had been fucking around in the middle east for years and it comes back home and we are surprised.

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His sermons werent so far off base. For the lower middle class to poor black people america is not the world of opportunity. We had been fucking around in the middle east for years and it comes back home and we are surprised.
Just a reminder that it did not "come back home" via any government but because one wealthy radical individual (without a country as he had been expelled by his homeland) decided to spend his money organizing attacks against American assets...ultimately the CONUS...and that is still the case.
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Most of your opinions make it obvious you would have labled guys like George Washignton a traitor or terrorist. Its also obvious that most of you sit behind your keyboards without ever really offering service to your country, which shows how little you know about sacrifice.
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Just a reminder that it did not "come back home" via any government but because one wealthy radical individual (without a country as he had been expelled by his homeland) decided to spend his money organizing attacks against American assets...ultimately the CONUS...and that is still the case.
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Most of your opinions make it obvious you would have labled guys like George Washignton a traitor or terrorist. Its also obvious that most of you sit behind your keyboards without ever really offering service to your country, which shows how little you know about sacrifice.
If you are directing your comments to me then you could not be more wrong on both statements.
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Truth is not pigshit. Pigshit is what you usually post.
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Here is what I took out of this post:

theking doesn't really care what anyone has to say, because they are already wrong in his opinion.

theking is struggling to make it seem as if Obama is the wrong choice for YOU to choose as President.

Best thing to do, is investigate yourself. Don't investigate by watching CNN or Fox News. Do a few searches into our past meddling in the middle east and how it led up to where we are now. You will see that the preacher isn't that far off. For you to label him anti-American for speaking his mind, really makes you seem like the anti-American.

Also, I have realized that anyone who even throws out the term anti-American, is usually a bigot themselves. Just another useless inhabitant of America cheering it's downfall throwing words around like "anti-American" because they heard it on the news. So sad...
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Here is what I took out of this post:

theking doesn't really care what anyone has to say, because they are already wrong in his opinion.

theking is struggling to make it seem as if Obama is the wrong choice for YOU to choose as President.

Best thing to do, is investigate yourself. Don't investigate by watching CNN or Fox News. Do a few searches into our past meddling in the middle east and how it led up to where we are now. You will see that the preacher isn't that far off. For you to label him anti-American for speaking his mind, really makes you seem like the anti-American.

Also, I have realized that anyone who even throws out the term anti-American, is usually a bigot themselves. Just another useless inhabitant of America cheering it's downfall throwing words around like "anti-American" because they heard it on the news. So sad...
Pigshit...but you of course are entitled to your opinion...sport. I do not label him anti American for speaking his mind...but his rhetoric is definintely anti American...and I do not care how you slice the pie. BTW...I don't give a fuck who anyone votes for...one man...one vote...is the American way. I may not even vote.
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I think one can make judgments about the character of a person by the company they keep.

I can think of one highly promoted webhost on this board, whose company has provided services to numerous ROKSO spammers and criminals like Jon Atherton.
As a result of these partnerships with numerous douchebags, I would say that webhost's ethics are certainly questionable, and damaging to his reputation.

Since Obama deliberately chose to go this particular church on a regular basis for over 20 years, and CONTINUES to do so, it tells me that he has no fundamental problem with the anti-american, and racist rhetoric that Pastor Wright spews.
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I think one can make judgments about the character of a person by the company they keep.

I can think of one highly promoted webhost on this board, whose company has provided services to numerous ROKSO spammers and criminals like Jon Atherton.
As a result of these partnerships with numerous douchebags, I would say that webhost's ethics are certainly questionable, and damaging to his reputation.

Since Obama deliberately chose to go this particular church on a regular basis for over 20 years, and CONTINUES to do so, it tells me that he has no fundamental problem with the anti-american, and racist rhetoric that Pastor Wright spews.
Texas, yee-haw, eh-huh-yuck!
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Texas, yee-haw, eh-huh-yuck!
A brilliant, well thought out response. I can tell you have an Ivy league education and multiple degrees. Just about what I thought you were capable of....

I used to come from the People's Republic of Massachusetts, until I wised up.
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A brilliant, well thought out response. I can tell you have an Ivy league education and multiple degrees. Just about what I thought you were capable of....

I used to come from the People's Republic of Massachusetts, until I wised up.
Yes...he/she is brilliant.
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Bush's family and G.W. himself have had close personal ties to the Saudi's and Bin Laden's for over 20 years and we got 1 shitty president and 1 horrendous president out of the deal.

Enough said.
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Bush's family and G.W. himself have had close personal ties to the Saudi's and Bin Laden's for over 20 years and we got 1 shitty president and 1 horrendous president out of the deal.

Enough said.
Not really enough said. What do you have to say about the question posed at the start of the thread?
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Since Obama deliberately chose to go this particular church on a regular basis for over 20 years, and CONTINUES to do so, it tells me that he has no fundamental problem with the anti-american, and racist rhetoric that Pastor Wright spews.

could be that OR he needs the voter base of that community and doesn't care what he has to to do to get the votes, either way it's not someone I would want to run the country.
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Enough said.
most bog businesses do. and the fucking bin ladin has been banned from the family for years and years. + the saudi family's have like 50-60+ kids due to plural marriages.
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Just a reminder that it did not "come back home" via any government but because one wealthy radical individual (without a country as he had been expelled by his homeland) decided to spend his money organizing attacks against American assets...ultimately the CONUS...and that is still the case.
Only one wealthy individual... you are fucking ridiculous.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:30 PM   #38
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Clinton won't sling this kind of shit at obama... besides we all know they're going to have to share the ticket but this is to decide who gets to lose the presidential election anyway
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:31 PM   #39
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What the fuck is an anti american these days anyway?
Well for starters...one could say that someone who says "God damn America" just might be anti America...do you think?
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:33 PM   #40
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Well for starters...one could say that someone who says "God damn America" just might be anti America...do you think?
Jebus, you're a moron, no matter how hard you try to make yourself and everyone around you think you're smart.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:34 PM   #41
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I personally could careless about their preachers. I'd be more concerned with the fact him and all the other candidates believe in fairy tales.

Either way, all that matters is what they'd do for me and the country. Would they make things better or worse? They could worship Satan for all I care as long as they are a good President.

As for the preacher, I can't judge. Blacks were shit on in this country for over 200 years. Are they supposed to be proud of a country that treated them as second class citizens for centuries? Should Jews in Germany be proud of their country?
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:35 PM   #42
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:40 PM   #43
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Only one wealthy individual... you are fucking ridiculous.
Bin Laden was...and is...one radical individual...who was wealthy...and may still be...whom is without a country...decided to use his wealth to create an org to carry out attacks against American assets...declared war against America...and members of his org ultimately attacked the CONUS.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:45 PM   #44
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Jebus, you're a moron, no matter how hard you try to make yourself and everyone around you think you're smart.
Noted...still no response to the question posed...thank you very much.
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Well for starters...one could say that someone who says "God damn America" just might be anti America...do you think?
there is no god, retard. It's a fucking fairy tale for fairies like you.
Lets compare it to my country.
When some politician would say 'God bless Holland' i would never vote for the fuck because hes religious, and we all know religious people are the biggest and dirtiest fucking hypocrites ever.
So what the fuck does 'god bless' or 'god damn' really say? NOTHING. It's all bullshit. Look at the fucking facts like the bible thumping politicians do, look at the fucking finances and vote based on that, not the comepletely useless religious fake points they make just to take along the dumb fucking sheep. Religious points are only important to the religious, and NOT ONE politician is religious. They only say they prefer one or another religion to get the religious sheep with them! Open your fucking eyes.
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there is no god, retard. It's a fucking fairy tale for fairies like you.
Lets compare it to my country.
When some politician would say 'God bless Holland' i would never vote for the fuck because hes religious, and we all know religious people are the biggest and dirtiest fucking hypocrites ever.
So what the fuck does 'god bless' or 'god damn' really say? NOTHING. It's all bullshit. Look at the fucking facts like the bible thumping politicians do, look at the fucking finances and vote based on that, not the comepletely useless religious fake points they make just to take along the dumb fucking sheep. Religious points are only important to the religious, and NOT ONE politician is religious. They only say they prefer one or another religion to get the religious sheep with them! Open your fucking eyes.
You are beginning to bore me...kid...so you are now dismissed.
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What is up with you these days?
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And there she goes...another hit and run. Well that is OK babe.
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could be that OR he needs the voter base of that community and doesn't care what he has to to do to get the votes,
He determined that 20 years ago?
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i think obamas wives views are a great deal more troubling than the fact that he goes to a church ran by a racist, separatist lunatic. but of course, i'm just another "white oppressor" so what do i know?
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