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Old 10-09-2002, 01:03 PM   #1
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Your thoughts on beast sites.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=81443
This wonderful thread about censorship, beast sites, and various other topics got me thinking...

From what I understand, beast sites are not federally illegal, only in select states. Why in the hell are so many people so anal about having them all shut down? Do we have our very own GFY PETA Clan around here? I would assume AM Jeff is the Grand Wizard. So when can I expect my lynching?

Seriously, what's the deal? You don't like beast, so what? Don't promote it, don't produce it, don't watch it. Is that SO hard? Or is The Hun forcing you into those "gross" galleries? I don't like BBW, so I don't watch it! It's pretty simple really.

I'll be damned if I'm going to shut down another persons rights just because I don't like their interests.
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nothing wrong with some goatsex!

goat bondage

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This wonderful thread about censorship, beast sites, and various other topics got me thinking...

From what I understand, beast sites are not federally illegal, only in select states. Why in the hell are so many people so anal about having them all shut down? Do we have our very own GFY PETA Clan around here? I would assume AM Jeff is the Grand Wizard. So when can I expect my lynching?

Seriously, what's the deal? You don't like beast, so what? Don't promote it, don't produce it, don't watch it. Is that SO hard? Or is The Hun forcing you into those "gross" galleries? I don't like BBW, so I don't watch it! It's pretty simple really.

I'll be damned if I'm going to shut down another persons rights just because I don't like their interests.
Yup, Tis just as *obscene* as Gay teen Anal etc... but not illegal.
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http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=81443
This wonderful thread about censorship, beast sites, and various other topics got me thinking...

From what I understand, beast sites are not federally illegal, only in select states. Why in the hell are so many people so anal about having them all shut down? Do we have our very own GFY PETA Clan around here? I would assume AM Jeff is the Grand Wizard. So when can I expect my lynching?

Seriously, what's the deal? You don't like beast, so what? Don't promote it, don't produce it, don't watch it. Is that SO hard? Or is The Hun forcing you into those "gross" galleries? I don't like BBW, so I don't watch it! It's pretty simple really.

I'll be damned if I'm going to shut down another persons rights just because I don't like their interests.
I don't know about a federal law, but as far as I know beastiality is illegal in all fifty states. In other words stop fucking the goat before you are prosecuted.
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I don't know about a federal law, but as far as I know beastiality is illegal in all fifty states.
Where did you read this? I'm just asking because I've heard different, on numerous occasions.
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Well said brother.... they can hang me on the same tree right next to you bro.... I'm not gonna "play ball".... or "step on board"... or "take one for the team"..... or "suck it up".... or "put up or shut up".... or "brush my teeth".... or "wipe properly"..... or....

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Where did you read this? I'm just asking because I've heard different, on numerous occasions.
I was editing so you missed this part. "In other words stop fucking the goat before you are prosecuted." I think you can research this yourself by using google to research state laws.
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Yup, Tis just as *obscene* as Gay teen Anal etc... but not illegal.

huh?

i've seen a few beast sites..even gay ones... all based/hosted in holland. I wonder if they're having a problem with VISA too these days?
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From what I understand, beast sites are not federally illegal, only in select states.
And I think one should draw the distinction between a website and performing the act.

In those states where it is said bestiality is illegal, they are referring to the actual act of stuffing your cock into an animal.

I am not very certain where images would get you in trouble other than good old fashioned obscenity charges. And anyone in porn faces those kinds of charges.

Looking at pictures of someone fucking a 12 year old is a different crime than actually fucking a 12 year old.

Beast websites are just as legal as any hardcore porn site. The only difference I see is it would be far easier to prove them obscene in a court of law.
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nothing wrong with beast sex?

errr.... okay.... dont go near my dog...



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I'm quite ambivalent about the whole thing. :D


Personally, I won't promote beasty shit. I lump it in with CP, in that the participants lack the ability to make a mature informed decision to participate. I don't agree with those that say the animals are happy to get sex so that makes it okay. Plainly, it's unnatural, it's sick and it's wrong.

But that's where the similarity to CP ends. I don't feel that I need to be trying to shut down beasty sites like I do the child porn sites. If anyone wants to criticize me, feel free, but this is the way it is for me. I can look the other way with the beasty sites and just not visit them. My mandate against CP remains as is -- 100% zero tolerance.

I simply won't be a party to promoting bestiality. Neither will I knowingly promote any fantasy rape either, even though it too is legal. I just don't agree with the concept behind these forms of *entertainment*.
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And what does the goat have to say about this?
it says baaah baaahaaah
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I think those domination sites are pretty fucking sick.... some dude wearing a leather mask getting flogged by some bitch with a whip.... definately fuckin' sick....

gay sites too.... way sick.

but I'm also not crying about it and trying to shut them down.
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*bleet* thank you *bleet*
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I dont see a big problem with the fake beastie sites , farm girls etc.

Just as I wouldnt have a problem with a teen site with young looking girls that are actually 18+.


But actually beasty sites are bad news.
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And I think one should draw the distinction between a website and performing the act.

In those states where it is said bestiality is illegal, they are referring to the actual act of stuffing your cock into an animal.

I am not very certain where images would get you in trouble other than good old fashioned obscenity charges. And anyone in porn faces those kinds of charges.

Looking at pictures of someone fucking a 12 year old is a different crime than actually fucking a 12 year old.

Beast websites are just as legal as any hardcore porn site. The only difference I see is it would be far easier to prove them obscene in a court of law.
I have not actually researched the laws in each state, but many if not most, if not all, AVS systems will not allow beastiality. I assume because it is against the law in the US.
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I think those domination sites are pretty fucking sick.... some dude wearing a leather mask getting flogged by some bitch with a whip.... definately fuckin' sick....

gay sites too.... way sick.

but I'm also not crying about it and trying to shut them down.
yeah, its a personal preference, im not crying about getting it "shut down" either....

Id prefer if it was... but eh.... freedom is freedom...
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I was editing so you missed this part. "In other words stop fucking the goat before you are prosecuted." I think you can research this yourself by using google to research state laws.
I got tired of goats. I've moved on to cats now, much smaller pussy.

Thanks Amp. I mean, fuck, people like you and my uncle have fought for shit like this. Fuck me, if I have some weird fetish, who fucking cares! You enjoy your life, I'll enjoy mine. It's really quite simple.

As long as nobody gets hurt.

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Rocky, I've only got one thing to say to you right about now...

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I got tired of goats. I've moved on to cats now, much smaller pussy.

Thanks Amp. I mean, fuck, people like you and my uncle have fought for shit like this. Fuck me, if I have some weird fetish, who fucking cares! You enjoy your life, I'll enjoy mine. It's really quite simple.
Have you ever seen pics or read about the dogs they find dead after being fucked by bums for years?

They find them around here from the transients coming through Hollywood.

The dogs assholes are like ripped opn and shit, pretty horrible, not much of a fantasy if you ask me.

Poor dogs are captred by bums held on as companions, but some end up being their fuck toys.

Real sad to see.
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I have not actually researched the laws in each state, but many if not most, if not all, AVS systems will not allow beastiality. I assume because it is against the law in the US.
Any and all rejection of bestiality sites by processors, sponsors, hosts, AVS, etc... is based solely on moral grounds.

Show me any sort of law aside from the standard obscenity prosecution that makes a bestiality website illegal in this country. Esp on a federal level. Trust me, if there was a law printed in black and white that said beast material was illegal, they would be plastering it all over every single thread that comes up about beast. But they do not, because there is not.

People have disliked beast from day one in this industry. Yet you would be shocked how many people from this board have their hands in it before the Burger smackdown came. Its the adult webmaster dirty little secret.

I know of a handful of people off this board who have either dealt or deal in bestiality. You would be quite surprised.

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I think it comes down to the little people in furry bodies not being able to voice their opinions and not having any rights. They're animals and a few notches down the food chain from us, a fact of life.

Then again, most of us eat beef, chicken, pork etc, and do you really think those animals suffer more when they are slaughtered for our eating, than when they have to be subjected to sexual acts on film? You be the judge.

I love my pets like the little people they are, and I must say they would most likely not be too pleased if they were ever forcefully um sexually assaulted? hehe sounds funny.

Then again, I've known non-neutered rottweilers who if they mount ya, its best to let them just finish

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Now excuse me while i give my dog a facial.
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Have you ever seen pics or read about the dogs they find dead after being fucked by bums for years?

They find them around here from the transients coming through Hollywood.

The dogs assholes are like ripped opn and shit, pretty horrible, not much of a fantasy if you ask me.

Poor dogs are captred by bums held on as companions, but some end up being their fuck toys.

Real sad to see.

thats sad
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If I were a dog, goat, cow, horse, etc... I would much rather take a good ass reaming than get the hammer and become a bag of beef jerky.

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Any and all rejection of bestiality sites by processors, sponsors, hosts, AVS, etc... is based solely on moral grounds.

Show me any sort of law aside from the standard obscenity prosecution that makes a bestiality website illegal in this country. Esp on a federal level.

People have disliked beast from day one in this industry. Yet you would be shocked how many people from this board have their hands in it before the Burger smackdown came. Its the adult webmaster dirty little secret.

I know of a handful of people off this board who have either dealt or deal in bestiality. You would be quite surprised.
I actually do not know of a specific law banning a beastiality "web site", federal or state, and I am not going to do any research on the matter. You may be correct that a specific law concerning a beastiality "web site", other than a general obscenity law, does not exist, though I suspect that it does. And no, I would not be surprised, for I quit being surprised by what anyone in this business does, a long time ago. At least I think I can't be surprised, I am not 100% positive about this.
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On the way out as I tip the glass.... note this... *I* never said a WORD about shutting anyone down.

Now DID *I*?!

As far as someone fighting for the right? Ahh well, far as I know I have the only one here that just got back from the latest fractiousness. ;-) (psssst...www.dictionary.com)

Sly, as far as me saying something with permission? Not hardly. I speak my mind when I want. Its better tio deal with me than him. You are a prime example as to why my hubby wants nothing to do with these boards. I don't *need* him to stand up for me.
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It's funny Ric and I were just talking about this last night. We were debating the distinction between a man having sex with an animal and a woman having sex with animals. I actually saw one video with two women on a sunny mountain side with a donkey and they all seemed like they were having a great time. It was better than a lot of the fake porn we see. Then on the other side of this issue are the poor animals getting force fucked up the ass.

So with bestiality, as with anyone (animal or human) they should be able to chose to participate.

On related note my biggest problem is with the idea of "obscenity" the word is so ambiguous, one person's obscenity is another person's turn on. I wouldn't want anyone making that judgement for me. The bottom line is whatever consenting adults want to do with each other is fine.
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Yes, let's have that argument in the other thread. I'll see if you posted there, if not, I'll be back here to respond.
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Schucks, you didn't post this in the other thread.

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On the way out as I tip the glass.... note this... *I* never said a WORD about shutting anyone down.

Now DID *I*?!

I didn't single you out dear, now DID *I*?! Naw, didn't think so.

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As far as someone fighting for the right? Ahh well, far as I know I have the only one here that just got back from the latest fractiousness. ;-) (psssst...www.dictionary.com)
Thanks for the link, I could probably use it ater.

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Sly, as far as me saying something with permission? Not hardly. I speak my mind when I want. Its better tio deal with me than him. You are a prime example as to why my hubby wants nothing to do with these boards. I don't *need* him to stand up for me.
Did I say you needed him to stand up for you? Nope. I'm very comfortable knowing and believing that you can stand up for yourself just fine. So go ahead, speak for yourself, but be your own person for once. Relying on what the "old man" says or thinks to reaffirm your statements is quite funny. Again, speak for yourself, would love to hear your ideas and opinions for once.
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