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will76 · 03-04-2008, 01:46 AM

Watch the clip, Jesus when will these AFF guys learn not to let idiots like Sean and Lars speak publicly.

http://www.xbizconference.com/archive.php video 7

AFF /Cams and now Penthouse really is the scum of the industry. I really wish you people who promote them would stop.

you guys have to stop doing business with these bad companies and start rewarding the good ones with your traffic.

Vick! · 03-04-2008, 01:53 AM

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intelligent response coming...

PS. oh' yeah .. see sig.

gimo33 · 03-04-2008, 01:59 AM

sig spottin.......

candyflip · 03-04-2008, 02:01 AM

He tries to justify their business model by calling out XBiz for having a DJ play music he didn't make?

ultimatebbwdotcom · 03-04-2008, 02:03 AM

so sad.....

Vick! · 03-04-2008, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

He tries to justify their business model by calling out XBiz for having a DJ play music he didn't make?

dude, why your nick is not green?

marketsmart · 03-04-2008, 02:10 AM

Lars.... LOL.....

CyberHustler · 03-04-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

dude, why your nick is not green?

Green nicks are overrated. Green text is the way to go.

Vick! · 03-04-2008, 02:21 AM

nvm .. posting again in a min.

Vick! · 03-04-2008, 02:26 AM

Who is this chick in background? I could not continue the video until I ask ..

will76 · 03-04-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

Who is this chick in background? I could not continue the video until I ask ..

I pointed that out to someone too. she is hot in a very sexy brunette kind of way

Vick! · 03-04-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

I pointed that out to someone too. she is hot in a very sexy brunette kind of way

Any chance of knowing who she is and what company she is associated with? Damn, she is really nice looking girl. Even though I have only seen her face .. I am totally flat

justsexxx · 03-04-2008, 02:44 AM

http://www.xbizhollywood.com/videos/...vid7/vid7.html for the lazy ppl

RAM · 03-04-2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Watch the clip, Jesus when will these AFF guys learn not to let idiots like Sean and Lars speak publicly.

http://www.xbizconference.com/archive.php video 7

AFF /Cams and now Penthouse really is the scum of the industry. I really wish you people who promote them would stop.

you guys have to stop doing business with these bad companies and start rewarding the good ones with your traffic.

Wow he is Stupid

dav3 · 03-04-2008, 02:52 AM

justsexxx · 03-04-2008, 02:54 AM

Andrew Stoddard is my hero fo the day. Funny that Sean guy. Getting all mad, because ppl say how it is...

That Sean guy says he is right because many other ppl do it as well... Great logic!

flashfire · 03-04-2008, 03:11 AM

people can try to justify anything...he does have a point about the legal model but actions speak louder than words

TCAP · 03-04-2008, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

Who is this chick in background? I could not continue the video until I ask ..

That would be Sophie Dee. Promote her at SophieCash.com

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-04-2008, 03:41 AM

I do not think he really argued the position to well.
SHame on AFF.

SpeakEasy · 03-04-2008, 05:15 AM

I used to think legendaryLiar was the biggest Idiot to ever speak now this sean guy makes lars look good, ok, ok so they both are retards.

GonZo · 03-04-2008, 06:08 AM

Looks like Sean made it back from lunch from 2 years ago when Streamray was redirecting my traffic to AFF.

Now we know why...

Zorgman · 03-04-2008, 07:19 AM

Good video until sean started speaking. Can't believe the shit that came from his mouth. I would expect Penthouse of all people to act more professional. He came accross as a high on drugs teen kid.

I would fire him just for doing it.

scottybuzz · 03-04-2008, 07:54 AM

lol i saw dj airek on video.

i liked what that man had to say on the right of the board, think his name was greg, he had some interesting thoughts

tranza · 03-04-2008, 08:14 AM

The truth is: a lot of people couldn't care less as long as they are making money.

Sad but true.

Kick Ass Chat · 03-04-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

The truth is: a lot of people couldn't care less as long as they are making money.

Sad but true.

That is like the AFF mentality, and you are riight it's sad but true.

candyflip · 03-04-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

dude, why your nick is not green?

I was a bad bad boy.

Barefootsies · 03-04-2008, 08:29 AM

Wow.

I wonder if this Shawn Christopher is related to Michael Christopher of Webair.

Pleasurepays · 03-04-2008, 08:43 AM

wow.

just wow.

Jace · 03-04-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

He tries to justify their business model by calling out XBiz for having a DJ play music he didn't make?

ok, now THAT was funny

wow

CarlosTheGaucho · 03-04-2008, 08:47 AM

It sure had to happen.

That their competition would buy the ad space is not an argument, it's an alibism.

hershie · 03-04-2008, 08:49 AM

I'd rather Jim-The-Fiend represent my company than this Sean moron.

Last year I thought he must be "slow" from the way he was arguing in a thread, but now I see he isn't retarded, just a complete douche.

pornguy · 03-04-2008, 08:53 AM

Something tells me that he wont have his job much longer

MaDalton · 03-04-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

lol i saw dj airek on video.

i liked what that man had to say on the right of the board, think his name was greg, he had some interesting thoughts

you would expect that from a lawyer that charges $500 per hour

SykkBoy · 03-04-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

you guys have to stop doing business with these bad companies and start rewarding the good ones with your traffic.

With all due respect to what you're doing and trying to do, this is simply reality...as long as people are making money, they don't really care...only when it affects THEIR money do they really give a shit and starting bitching....

GonZo · 03-04-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hershie

I'd rather Jim-The-Fiend represent my company than this Sean moron.

Last year I thought he must be "slow" from the way he was arguing in a thread, but now I see he isn't retarded, just a complete douche.

Hes only slow from getting back from lunch and sending ICQs.

tom hymes · 03-04-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

Who is this chick in background? I could not continue the video until I ask ..

LOL. That's Fiona Patten from Australia's Eros Association, which is like their FSC.

She's hot, smart, funny, committed and... hot?

CarlosTheGaucho · 03-04-2008, 09:08 AM

DJ killed it.

tom hymes · 03-04-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tom hymes

LOL. That's Fiona Patten from Australia's Eros Association, which is like their FSC.

She's hot, smart, funny, committed and... hot?

Shit, I'm wrong. That chick's in the audience. Don't know who she is. Hm...

Roald · 03-04-2008, 09:13 AM

Well his content is on the tube sites too so whats the problem huh

lbc213 · 03-04-2008, 09:19 AM

That Fiona woman is hot, I dig her Aussie accent.....Oh yeah Shawn is a idiot, was he high?

will76 · 03-04-2008, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

Something tells me that he wont have his job much longer

I can't speak for Penthouse, but what Sean was saying was the EXACT shit that LARS was spewing about spyware 2 years ago. I would have to think that Andrew is on the same wave length as well. Someone over there at AFF/Cams is programming these morons to think this way. Its so obvious since they say the exact same excuses for everything, I would bet it's Andrew, seems the most logical. So I doubt he will get fired, they probably air high-5'ed each other when they saw the video and thought he did a good job, where as the rest of us thought he looked like an idiot.

Chances are Penthouse knew what they were buying with AFF/Cams and Penthouse decided to not only keep Andrew,Lars, Sean, etc... on after they bought AFF/Cams but they put them in charge of Penthouse's online properties as well. So, I would think there is no chance in hell that he will be fired, I can't see how Penthouse would have expected anything different than what happened.

Here is something really funny... Sean says " we tried to stop and we have pulled adds on torrent and tube sites but our competition just buys them...." Sean, you work for a Cams, Dating, and membership site... Everyone is your competition. Did you expect the illegal site to close down just because you pulled your ads? You can't be that stupid. There is always going to be shitty people that will do business with these companies. If AFF/CAMS/Penthouse took the high road and then asked all of their affiliates (and everyone else) to not do business with the " competition" who was buying these spots not only would they help clean things up and be heroes, they would make more money in the long run.... it all comes down to greed and how much can i make *tomorrow* mentality.

Ambergirl · 03-04-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

lol i saw dj airek on video.

i liked what that man had to say on the right of the board, think his name was greg, he had some interesting thoughts

Yep, that was Greg Piccionelli - he's an icon attorney in our industry and has been involved in online adult for as long as I can remember. Greg's top notch - and for those that go as far back as the ice-ages of adult net, I especially enjoyed his "Ron Levi DMR" analogy.

It may not be popular in this thread - and although I do not completely agree with AFF's business practices - I'm stepping up to say that I do personally like both Sean and Lars.

And Airek, Well Done - you were very well spoken!!

xxxice · 03-04-2008, 09:41 AM

"Your Not My Bro"

dodger21 · 03-04-2008, 09:51 AM

its retards like that fucktard that make this "business" a joke

sortie · 03-04-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCAP

That would be Sophie Dee. Promote her at SophieCash.com

Yep, I always thought she should be a bigger star in the biz.

FreeHugeMovies · 03-04-2008, 10:09 AM

Andrew Stoddard kept on asking the same question from which Shawn had no defense. There is no defense for buying ad spots on torrent / tube sites.

Trixxxia · 03-04-2008, 10:18 AM

BTW for anyone wondering what the URL is of PAK Group Inc.
http://thepakgroup.com/index.html (from what I've found)

boneprone · 03-04-2008, 10:24 AM

Damn I wish I was there.

Why isnt anyone standing up for Sean? He is right. This is where internet is going.

Adapt and evolve people.

Or be left behind on the sidelines crying.

boneprone · 03-04-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Andrew Stoddard kept on asking the same question from which Shawn had no defense. There is no defense for buying ad spots on torrent / tube sites.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

WarChild · 03-04-2008, 10:29 AM

I watched all the videos, and couldn't help but think the guys out of the United States, with the large torrents and tube sites are probably laughing and rubbing their hands together thinking to themselves "That's what they're throwing at us?".

From the doom and gloom lawyer who boldly states that "Everyone who streams video needs to be concerned with 2257.", as if he's never heard of the rest of the World, all the way to Andrew who looked about ready to cry. I know they sure put the fear of, umm well nothing, in to me!

I need a torrent site.

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