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Old 03-03-2008, 08:51 PM   #251
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1 puppy killed.

100,000 plus civilians killed.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:00 PM   #252
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We are killing livestock for food. This was just for a quick laugh.
yep, because just last night I had some Minx for dinner and I followed it up with a little fox soup. . . oh, well maybe not, maybe I just killed them to make some nice clothes.
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you think dogs arent special
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:43 PM   #255
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Stop eating animals that have been through factory farms and you will notice the difference in your life. I know I have. It feels way better than any drug. (not that I have tried them all but you get the point)

It's pretty funny how people rationalise killing animals for food. As though killing a free range pig is any different to a factory farmed pig. As though killing a free person is better than killing a person in prison.. To a hundred million or so vegetarians you're a hypocritcal murderer.
For every righteous indignation you have there is another you are performing... it's just a matter of perspective.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:50 PM   #256
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It's pretty funny how people rationalise killing animals for food. As though killing a free range pig is any different to a factory farmed pig. As though killing a free person is better than killing a person in prison.. To a hundred million or so vegetarians you're a hypocritcal murderer.
For every righteous indignation you have there is another you are performing... it's just a matter of perspective.
Well, it is a process for me. I hardly eat any meat now other than wild caught fish. I do eat eggs but the chickens are not from one of those Franken-farms where the birds are basically shot up with all types of crap, crammed in a box all their lives, etc.

The milk I drink is from cows who have better lives than many humans.

It makes a huge difference and actually costs less when you add it all up.

Try it for a few months and see.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:54 PM   #257
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thank you to the people defending david. i cannot believe the reactions people are getting from this when there are other innocent people dying also. people believe in abortion but yet they cant kill a dog? this world is so messed up. people are more concerned about a dogs life than a human being? im not saying that what occured here is right but i dont know the conditions of the situation neither do the rest of you. for all you hateful people who are saying these nasty comments you are no better. if you think that saying these crude things makes you right then i think you need help mentally. david, i love you and whatever happens your family is here for you and we can get through this.
What a stupid fucking cunt. Is that the mother or the wife? If it's the mother the dumb bitch should have had an abortion before that piece of shit was born. If it's the wife she needs to abort every fetus that bastard creates. We sure as hell don't need more of his kind in the world.
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What a stupid fucking cunt. Is that the mother or the wife? If it's the mother the dumb bitch should have had an abortion before that piece of shit was born. If it's the wife she needs to abort every fetus that bastard creates. We sure as hell don't need more of his kind in the world.
score one more for compassion.


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What a stupid fucking cunt. Is that the mother or the wife? If it's the mother the dumb bitch should have had an abortion before that piece of shit was born. If it's the wife she needs to abort every fetus that bastard creates. We sure as hell don't need more of his kind in the world.
Are you joking? This is at least 30% of the population talking through this cooky bitch.
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:02 PM   #260
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you going to stop eating bacon now or is it too tasty?
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:29 PM   #261
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score one more for compassion.
That sick ass sorry son of a bitch had a smile on his face before, during, and after, his brutal murder of a helpless animal. How's that for compassion? The mental case thought it was fucking funny.
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Well, it is a process for me. I hardly eat any meat now other than wild caught fish. I do eat eggs but the chickens are not from one of those Franken-farms where the birds are basically shot up with all types of crap, crammed in a box all their lives, etc.

The milk I drink is from cows who have better lives than many humans.

It makes a huge difference and actually costs less when you add it all up.

Try it for a few months and see.

I've been doing what you do for years... But not because I care about animals particularly, I dont really care if someone eats a sacred cow or an intelligent pig..
I just care when the same people go insane over asians eating cats and dogs without realising what total hypocrites they're being... Most everyone here, myself included, has the blood of innocent Iraqi's on their hands.. 100,000 men women and children.. and yet we only call to arms when we see a picture of a puppy. It's warped. Everyone knows (or should know) how many civilians have been killed there by us, but how many in this thread have written to their representatives about ending the war in Iraq?
It's just collateral damage right? Isn't this puppy just collateral damange too?
I'm not making any moral judgements. I haven't written to anyone, I'm not holier than thou... just trying to bring the old reality hammer to the thread.
We're so desensitised. I guess if we saw puppies being put down every day we wouldn't care about this either.

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Old 03-03-2008, 10:50 PM   #263
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I've been doing what you do for years... But not because I care about animals particularly, I dont really care if someone eats a sacred cow or an intelligent pig..
I just care when the same people go insane over asians eating cats and dogs without realising what total hypocrites they're being... Most everyone here, myself included, has the blood of innocent Iraqi's on their hands.. 100,000 men women and children.. and yet we only call to arms when we see a picture of a puppy. It's warped. Everyone knows (or should know) how many civilians have been killed there by us, but how many in this thread have written to their representatives about ending the war in Iraq?
It's just collateral damage right? Isn't this puppy just collateral damange too?
I'm not making any moral judgements. I haven't written to anyone, I'm not holier than thou... just trying to bring the old reality hammer to the thread.
We're so desensitised. I guess if we saw puppies being put down every day we wouldn't care about this either.
Great post and I agree with your ideas. However I seriously doubt writing to representatives will stop a war. Remember how Pelosi and the Democrats were going to swoop in and stop the war?

If people cannot read into what the fuck is going on with this war then I really do not feel sorry for them someday when they are starving in the streets. Dumb people get what they deserve. Evolve past being total dupe or go the way of the dinosaurs.
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That sick ass sorry son of a bitch had a smile on his face before, during, and after, his brutal murder of a helpless animal. How's that for compassion? The mental case thought it was fucking funny.
i think you are a mental case for wishing death on someone for doing something you don't like.

i mean seriously.. not a single one of you jackasses can see the contradiction in your behavior?

dead puppy = outrage
dead children = statistics

as bhutocracy has said and i have many times... what he did is indefensible.. the reaction to it however is quite bizarre. as a general rule... white people love animals more than people.
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Best of all, none of this will matter when those mega-church followers win the rapture lottery and leave this world and all the problems they helped create.

Jebus we are ready, come take us now.
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note to self: when video cameras are around... only kill ugly animals.
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Tossing a puppy off of a cliff, as bad as that is, is nothing compared to what these guys do.

WARNING: very graphic and very disturbing.

http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/
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WARNING: very graphic and very disturbing.

http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/
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MSNBC just ran this story. Just FYI.

edit. The guy is back at his base in Hawaii they said. Also that the marines are looking into it, sayig what the video depicts is "deplorable", also that the families home phone has been disconnected and that they've received death threats and crap.. pretty crazy
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MSNBC just ran this story. Just FYI.

edit. The guy is back at his base in Hawaii they said. Also that the marines are looking into it, sayig what the video depicts is "deplorable", also that the families home phone has been disconnected and that they've received death threats and crap.. pretty crazy
Interesting. So it's made the national spotlight.

Kinda baffles me how many people here can't seem to distinguish between killing for a practical purpose, and killing for sheer enjoyment.
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Yeah, I will say I found it disturbing and sad.

They even cautioned viewers that the video they were about to show was disturbing, and they showed it (without sound). Then described what was said, that the mans name was said, and that you could hear what sounded like squeals of a puppy and the sound of the "impact".

Really a bonehead move. Now the Marines have to go look into it, and hold trials or some shit.. basically it was not cute or funny in any way whatsoever and that point is being driven home it looks like.
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This has hit the Sun newspaper over here now

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle873716.ece
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I love how people care more about animals, then they do humans.
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Fuck - another Puppy Toss video !
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xFuCYKDcgZI
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WARNING: very graphic and very disturbing.

http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/

That is some of the most disturbing shit I have ever seen in my fucking life. What the fuck is the point of skinning a fucking animal while its still alive?
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In other Iraq news...

American Deaths

Since war began (3/19/03): 3,974
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3,835
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3,513
Since "Handover" (6/29/04): 3,116
Since "Election" (1/31/05): 2,536
American Wounded: 29,320

Iraqi Civilian Deaths Due to Violence (during same time period): 81,632

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I love how people care more about animals, then they do humans.
When you have humans like Mr. Motari here in he mix is it really that shocking to you?

No the guy doesn't deserve the death penalty, no his family does not deserve to be getting called with death threats, that's getting a little out of hand. But does he deserve the negative press he's getting here? Of course, he tapes this and posts it to the internet, he was putting on a show for the world, and they didn't like it. So fuck him if everyone reacts with pure hatred.

Everyone responds with this "i can't believe people are outraged over this whne there's so much worse happening to people" crap. You'd better believe that if the guy threw a fucking iraqi baby of a cliff people would be 100x times more angry and the hating wold be much wider spread. But that is not the case.

The fact that he is a soldier in a war zone does NOT justify anything he did or make it any less stupid on his part. Plenty of soldiers do their tour of duty without chucking puppies...
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Saves time

That is pretty fucking sick...
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I dont understand why people are buying into the false argument that you're EITHER
a) outraged by human suffering

OR (not AND, OR!)

b) outraged by this animal abuse

This is like Crossfire on CNN, people making fine points on both sides, yet there are no sides to begin with, lol.

Put up a shocking video of a US soldier tossing a child off the cliff and joking about it and the outrage would be 100 million fold as much as it is over the puppy.
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license plate number Hawaii NXE-978



found this info on forums of the popular social networking site. Don't want to post the link, cause it would lead to another forum, but it's easy to look it up. It's filed under News & Politics » General » Some Of Are US Soldiers Are Sick!
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I read the replies in this post and felt my reactions waver between Canadian liberal and matural reactionary.

Then I watched the clip. Mother fucker.

---------------------------------------->somewhere beyond Ghengis Khan.

I hope he gets an anus full of MuslimMeatSwords.
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found this info on forums of the popular social networking site. Don't want to post the link, cause it would lead to another forum, but it's easy to look it up. It's filed under News & Politics » General » Some Of Are US Soldiers Are Sick!
Im curious, did you post this information for a reason?
Is it your intention to seriously fuck with a psychotic marine?
LOL Good luck with that Marek.

Hehe I just forwarded this thread link and the following information to Davids email...
Name: Marek Michalik
Address 1: Box 310
City: Vegreville
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