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Old 03-02-2008, 08:30 PM   #101
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:31 PM   #102
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That's a sick ass cruel son of a bitch and the worst part is the sorry ass bastard did it for fun. He's a total disgrace to his uniform and the human race. I sent that link to every news organization I could think of. I hope the fucker at the very least gets shit beat out of him for what he did.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:34 PM   #103
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that would be a "good killing"?

or whats the rule?

killing someone is ok when a puppy is involved?

Anyone who gets pleasure out of torturing or killing gets no sympathy from me.

I truly understand your position. And I agree with some of your points but for me to watch someone do something like that with a big fat smile on his face yes I hope karma kicks in. That guy is a disgrace in uniform.
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That's a sick ass cruel son of a bitch and the worst part is the sorry ass bastard did it for fun. He's a total disgrace to his uniform and the human race. I sent that link to every news organization I could think of. I hope the fucker at the very least gets shit beat out of him for what he did.


Good job.

I forwarded that link to several contacts I have in the media as well as military.
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I have the utmost respect for American soldiers and believe that on average they represent the best and brightest of our society........ but that dumb fuck is a disgrace to his uniform, his country and to common decency. He should be kneecapped. I don't believe this idiot is representative of our fighting men and women in uniform who do their duty with honor and courage every day.
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I hope that guy dies.
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:24 PM   #107
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funny how people can get so bent out of shape with an animal being killed... and care so little about people being killed.

if you are outraged at this video and not equally outraged about all the other men, women and children dying daily...then your not only a hypocrite, but you are just as disturbed as the soldier himself.

The subject at hand is this particular incident with a dog ....
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You know, that guys jo involves hunting down and KILLING HUMANS. How can you expect him to care about a puppy? And with all the people dying, why do you care about a puppy?
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Well I meant before you left.. Like you signed up for the army during peace times, war is announced, do you have no options at this point if you don't believe in the war? Who wants to kill innocent people?
What I said applies to times of peace, war, whatever.
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You know, that guys jo involves hunting down and KILLING HUMANS. How can you expect him to care about a puppy? And with all the people dying, why do you care about a puppy?
Idiot .....
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funny how people can get so bent out of shape with an animal being killed... and care so little about people being killed.

if you are outraged at this video and not equally outraged about all the other men, women and children dying daily...then your not only a hypocrite, but you are just as disturbed as the soldier himself.

I agree.

Look at the comments in this thread compared to "Israeli Soldiers Use Children as Shield" one.. We got people in this thread writing to major news organization trying to track this guy down. There is not even close to the same outrage when kids are being used as human shields.

I blame PETA for this mentality
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I agree.

Look at the comments in this thread compared to "Israeli Soldiers Use Children as Shield" one.. We got people in this thread writing to major news organization trying to track this guy down. There is not even close to the same outrage when kids are being used as human shields.

I blame PETA for this mentality
So what this soldier did was ok and the matter should be dropped?

The kids/shields is already being shown on major news and will be dealt with. Our anger over the kids/shields should prevent us from speaking up about the puppy ....... is that what you are saying?
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I agree.

Look at the comments in this thread compared to "Israeli Soldiers Use Children as Shield" one.. We got people in this thread writing to major news organization trying to track this guy down. There is not even close to the same outrage when kids are being used as human shields.

I blame PETA for this mentality
Compare apples to apples. Same two American soldiers, same cliff, but instead of a puppy they fling a human toddler off the cliff on video and laugh as they do it. You had better believe that the outrage would be even worse.
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So what this soldier did was ok and the matter should be dropped?

The kids/shields is already being shown on major news and will be dealt with. Our anger over the kids/shields should prevent us from speaking up about the puppy ....... is that what you are saying?
Of course not. What he did was wrong and should be dealt with, punished, etc. Like i said before, i have had dogs my whole life and they were/are a huge part of it.

However, in my opinion, when you start to equate human life with animal life in importance it gets dangerous. And from many posts in this thread, it seems people have that mentality.
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Of course not. What he did was wrong and should be dealt with, punished, etc. Like i said before, i have had dogs my whole life and they were/are a huge part of it.

However, in my opinion, when you start to equate human life with animal life in importance it gets dangerous. And from many posts in this thread, it seems people have that mentality.
I care more about my dog than anyone in your family. Does that make me a bad person?
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Compare apples to apples. Same two American soldiers, same cliff, but instead of a puppy they fling a human toddler off the cliff on video and laugh as they do it. You had better believe that the outrage would be even worse.
That is my point.

Using Palestinian children as human shields is way worse in my opinion then throwing a puppy off a cliff.
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there's some discussion going around that they're not Marines or Army based on the uniforms. More likely Blackwater mercs.

there's no insignia on the gear, and Blackwater wears military issue without patches and stuff.
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I care more about my dog than anyone in your family. Does that make me a bad person?

No, but if you had to pick either your dog or a random human to die and you picked the human, then i would say you would be.
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That is my point.

Using Palestinian children as human shields is way worse in my opinion then throwing a puppy off a cliff.
Sailed right over your head didn't it?
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No, but if you had to pick either your dog or a random human to die and you picked the human, then i would say you would be.
Why should a random human mean more to me than the dog that has been by my side for 10 years?
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I just dont get it ....
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What I said applies to times of peace, war, whatever.
Kinda fucked up.. I mean using that same logic should the actual Nazi's be held responsible? They were just "doing their jobs" then too? I think it sets a scary precident.. But yeah, way it is.. Thanks for explaining
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Sailed right over your head didn't it?
I was talking about comparing the value of human life to an animal's life. YAnd you respond with a comparison of how you feel about your dog versus how you feel towards a totally stranger.

And it sailed over my head?
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I agree.

Look at the comments in this thread compared to "Israeli Soldiers Use Children as Shield" one.. We got people in this thread writing to major news organization trying to track this guy down. There is not even close to the same outrage when kids are being used as human shields.

I blame PETA for this mentality
I'm no israel lover, but I find it hard to believe anyone would do that. If they did, I think you could write them off as ridiculously insane. Sounds like propaganda to me. I didn't even go in that thread.
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Kinda fucked up.. I mean using that same logic should the actual Nazi's be held responsible? They were just "doing their jobs" then too? I think it sets a scary precident.. But yeah, way it is.. Thanks for explaining
Well, to reiterate... a soldier reserves the right to refuse any order... but he'll likely end up in jail, or - if the matter's severe enough - on the slab.
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hope he comes back blind, and that they will tell him they are out of guide dogs.
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What a fucking asshole.

I wish I never watch that now

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I was talking about comparing the value of human life to an animal's life. YAnd you respond with a comparison of how you feel about your dog versus how you feel towards a totally stranger.

And it sailed over my head?
Brent, lol, two different posts, two different subjects, two different people you are combining here.
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I was talking about comparing the value of human life to an animal's life. YAnd you respond with a comparison of how you feel about your dog versus how you feel towards a totally stranger.

And it sailed over my head?
The point I think that you, and a handful of others seem to be missing here is it's not so much _what_ life was taken as much as the _circumstances_ by which it was taken.

It seemed to be taken out of sheer enjoyment - and not any sense of duty, strategic benefit, or practical objective.

That's the issue that I think most here have objection to. It was cold-blooded murder. Let go of the fact that it's a "puppy" for a moment.

In that regard, it's genuinely fucked up - whatever the actual "life" is. I'm sure if it was a human, there'd only be more outrage.
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The point I think that you, and a handful of others seem to be missing here is it's not so much _what_ life was taken as much as the _circumstances_ by which it was taken.

It seemed to be taken out of sheer enjoyment - and not any sense of duty, strategic benefit, or practical objective.

That's the issue that I think most here have objection to. It was cold-blooded murder. Let go of the fact that it's a "puppy" for a moment.

In that regard, it's genuinely fucked up - whatever the actual "life" is. I'm sure if it was a human, there'd only be more outrage.
Well stated ......
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The point I think that you, and a handful of others seem to be missing here is it's not so much _what_ life was taken as much as the _circumstances_ by which it was taken.

It seemed to be taken out of sheer enjoyment - and not any sense of duty, strategic benefit, or practical objective.

That's the issue that I think most here have objection to. It was cold-blooded murder. Let go of the fact that it's a "puppy" for a moment.

In that regard, it's genuinely fucked up - whatever the actual "life" is. I'm sure if it was a human, there'd only be more outrage.
I think the helplessness of the animal plays a role, as well as the close relationship many of us have to dogs. We view the killing of a child as more severe than an adult because of the helplessness of the crime. The same goes for a puppy.

Whatever the case may be, I can't see how anyone would defend the actions. The guy is a sick sociopath and I hope he gets a bullet put through his skull before he is allowed to procreate.
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I think the helplessness of the animal plays a role, as well as the close relationship many of us have to dogs. We view the killing of a child as more severe than an adult because of the helplessness of the crime. The same goes for a puppy.

Whatever the case may be, I can't see how anyone would defend the actions. The guy is a sick sociopath and I hope he gets a bullet put through his skull before he is allowed to procreate.

Do you really think he should be executed for doing that?
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Whats sad is that anti war crowd and America haters found on this board focus on is the 1 in 1000 bad apples rather than the 99%+ decent and honorable guys in military.

The same crowd has nothing at all to say when terrorists in Iraq turned women with Down's syndrome into remote control suicide bombers. I don't remember the outrage there.
I agree that his act do not represent the US military ... Idiots are found everywhere, as well as killers, rapists, thieves...

As for your Down Syndrome , maybe no outrage because .... it was not true ...:


US: Bombers didn't have Down syndrome

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military said Wednesday that two women used as suicide bombers in attacks earlier this month had undergone psychiatric treatment but there is no indication they had Down syndrome as Iraqi and U.S. officials initially had claimed.
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Do you really think he should be executed for doing that?
Who said he should be executed?
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Who said he should be executed?

A lot of people have, including you on page one.
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Guys guys guys, please use your energy to alert people in the media and post on blogs. It is possible that media people will not be allowed to talk about this because it involves US soldiers.

We will find out this week. I have left a message for Jillian Barberie Reynolds who does the LA morning show on FOX. I know she will be outraged because she is involved in animal resucue in the local area.

If the media ignores this then only posting on blogs will root these cocksuckers out. We need names to shame them.
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The point I think that you, and a handful of others seem to be missing here is it's not so much _what_ life was taken as much as the _circumstances_ by which it was taken.

It seemed to be taken out of sheer enjoyment - and not any sense of duty, strategic benefit, or practical objective.

That's the issue that I think most here have objection to. It was cold-blooded murder. Let go of the fact that it's a "puppy" for a moment.

In that regard, it's genuinely fucked up - whatever the actual "life" is. I'm sure if it was a human, there'd only be more outrage.

I respect you for your logical and thoughful posts
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A lot of people have, including you on page one.
No, I wished he would find a bullet with his name on it.

Execution is very different.
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Do you really think he should be executed for doing that?
Not by law. But if he gets shot in the head and dies, I will not lose sleep over it. I'd rather have people like that out of the gene pool.
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No, I wished he would find a bullet with his name on it.

Execution is very different.

Holy shit words have several definitions!

ex·e·cute /ˈɛksɪˌkyut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ek-si-kyoot] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -cut·ed, -cut·ing.
?verb (used with object)
1. to carry out; accomplish: to execute a plan or order.
2. to perform or do: to execute a maneuver; to execute a gymnastic feat.
3. to inflict capital punishment on; put to death according to law.
4. to murder; assassinate.
5. to produce in accordance with a plan or design: a painting executed by an unknown artist.
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:01 PM   #144
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Holy shit words have several definitions!

ex·e·cute /ˈɛksɪˌkyut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ek-si-kyoot] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -cut·ed, -cut·ing.
?verb (used with object)
1. to carry out; accomplish: to execute a plan or order.
2. to perform or do: to execute a maneuver; to execute a gymnastic feat.
3. to inflict capital punishment on; put to death according to law.
4. to murder; assassinate.
5. to produce in accordance with a plan or design: a painting executed by an unknown artist.
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I need help because you have the IQ of a washcloth?


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Old 03-02-2008, 11:12 PM   #146
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I need help because you have the IQ of a washcloth?


..... idiot, get back on the subject.
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:39 PM   #147
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Is deliberately killing an animal that much worse than deliberately bombing residential buildings whether known to contian terrorists or not, but known to have a high potential to contain innocent civilians often by the hundreds?
I'm gonna have to go with xplicit on this one.
I love dogs, I do, my dog is baby and I would kill any man that tried to harm her, i would also assrape this fucker for killing this dog like that. BUT I would ass rape the men 100 times over who decide to send bombs into villages where innocent people are being killed with full knowledge of their probable fatalaties. I dont see how any rational individual could support the war, and yet oppose killing of puppies.
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:44 PM   #148
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The point I think that you, and a handful of others seem to be missing here is it's not so much _what_ life was taken as much as the _circumstances_ by which it was taken.

It seemed to be taken out of sheer enjoyment - and not any sense of duty, strategic benefit, or practical objective.

That's the issue that I think most here have objection to. It was cold-blooded murder. Let go of the fact that it's a "puppy" for a moment.

In that regard, it's genuinely fucked up - whatever the actual "life" is. I'm sure if it was a human, there'd only be more outrage.

this point YOU are missing is that this IS happening with humans all day, everyday, all around the world. its happening right now while i type this... and there is no "outrage".

1 puppy down = OH MY FUCKING GOD!! Call the media! I hope he dies!

100 girls raped, tortured and killed as this is discussed = "i'm feeling lazy today... i'm gonna take a nap.... wonder what i'll have for lunch"

granted the imagery plays a powerful role... regardless, real people are being tortured, raped and killed daily and no one cares. does anyone really need a pic to "get it"? nope. everyone knows and they're not "outraged".
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:48 PM   #149
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i wonder how many girls in the middle east that have been executed for having a boyfriend... by being buried up to their necks in the dirt and being stoned to death thought to themselves "shit... if i was a puppy.. this wouldn't be happening"... or a gay couple being hanged last thoughts were "if only we were kittens... this would not be happening and the world would care"


people can dress it up anyway you want... but at the end of the day, the behavior of choosing animals over people is just as disturbing as what the soldier is doing.

... and yeah. i get it... you are talking about this incident. the point everyone is totally ignoring is the simple FACT that you AREN'T talking about all the innocent people being killed. and thats pretty typical of people.

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There is clear CUT when the dog is behind his body. Plush dog has been throwed.
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