Sailed right over your head didn't it? :Oh crap

Why should a random human mean more to me than the dog that has been by my side for 10 years?

I just dont get it ....

Kinda fucked up.. I mean using that same logic should the actual Nazi's be held responsible? They were just "doing their jobs" then too? I think it sets a scary precident.. But yeah, way it is.. Thanks for explaining

I was talking about comparing the value of human life to an animal's life. YAnd you respond with a comparison of how you feel about your dog versus how you feel towards a totally stranger.

And it sailed over my head?

I'm no israel lover, but I find it hard to believe anyone would do that. If they did, I think you could write them off as ridiculously insane. Sounds like propaganda to me. I didn't even go in that thread.

Well, to reiterate... a soldier reserves the right to refuse any order... but he'll likely end up in jail, or - if the matter's severe enough - on the slab.

hope he comes back blind, and that they will tell him they are out of guide dogs.

What a fucking asshole.

I wish I never watch that now :(

Brent, lol, two different posts, two different subjects, two different people you are combining here. :Oh crap

The point I think that you, and a handful of others seem to be missing here is it's not so much _what_ life was taken as much as the _circumstances_ by which it was taken.

It seemed to be taken out of sheer enjoyment - and not any sense of duty, strategic benefit, or practical objective.

That's the issue that I think most here have objection to. It was cold-blooded murder. Let go of the fact that it's a "puppy" for a moment.

In that regard, it's genuinely fucked up - whatever the actual "life" is. I'm sure if it was a human, there'd only be more outrage.

Well stated ......

I think the helplessness of the animal plays a role, as well as the close relationship many of us have to dogs. We view the killing of a child as more severe than an adult because of the helplessness of the crime. The same goes for a puppy.

Whatever the case may be, I can't see how anyone would defend the actions. The guy is a sick sociopath and I hope he gets a bullet put through his skull before he is allowed to procreate.

Do you really think he should be executed for doing that?

I agree that his act do not represent the US military ... Idiots are found everywhere, as well as killers, rapists, thieves...

As for your Down Syndrome , maybe no outrage because .... it was not true ...::1orglaugh:1orglaugh


US: Bombers didn't have Down syndrome

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military said Wednesday that two women used as suicide bombers in attacks earlier this month had undergone psychiatric treatment but there is no indication they had Down syndrome as Iraqi and U.S. officials initially had claimed.

Who said he should be executed?

A lot of people have, including you on page one.

damn .. thats sick.

Guys guys guys, please use your energy to alert people in the media and post on blogs. It is possible that media people will not be allowed to talk about this because it involves US soldiers.

We will find out this week. I have left a message for Jillian Barberie Reynolds who does the LA morning show on FOX. I know she will be outraged because she is involved in animal resucue in the local area.

If the media ignores this then only posting on blogs will root these cocksuckers out. We need names to shame them.:thumbsup

I respect you for your logical and thoughful posts

No, I wished he would find a bullet with his name on it.

Execution is very different.

Not by law. But if he gets shot in the head and dies, I will not lose sleep over it. I'd rather have people like that out of the gene pool.

Holy shit words have several definitions!

ex·e·cute /ˈɛksɪˌkyut/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ek-si-kyoot] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -cut·ed, -cut·ing.
?verb (used with object)
1. to carry out; accomplish: to execute a plan or order.
2. to perform or do: to execute a maneuver; to execute a gymnastic feat.
3. to inflict capital punishment on; put to death according to law.
4. to murder; assassinate.
5. to produce in accordance with a plan or design: a painting executed by an unknown artist.

:helpme ....

I need help because you have the IQ of a washcloth?


:thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh ..... idiot, get back on the subject.

Is deliberately killing an animal that much worse than deliberately bombing residential buildings whether known to contian terrorists or not, but known to have a high potential to contain innocent civilians often by the hundreds?
I'm gonna have to go with xplicit on this one.
I love dogs, I do, my dog is baby and I would kill any man that tried to harm her, i would also assrape this fucker for killing this dog like that. BUT I would ass rape the men 100 times over who decide to send bombs into villages where innocent people are being killed with full knowledge of their probable fatalaties. I dont see how any rational individual could support the war, and yet oppose killing of puppies.

this point YOU are missing is that this IS happening with humans all day, everyday, all around the world. its happening right now while i type this... and there is no "outrage".

1 puppy down = OH MY FUCKING GOD!! Call the media! I hope he dies!

100 girls raped, tortured and killed as this is discussed = "i'm feeling lazy today... i'm gonna take a nap.... wonder what i'll have for lunch"

granted the imagery plays a powerful role... regardless, real people are being tortured, raped and killed daily and no one cares. does anyone really need a pic to "get it"? nope. everyone knows and they're not "outraged".

i wonder how many girls in the middle east that have been executed for having a boyfriend... by being buried up to their necks in the dirt and being stoned to death thought to themselves "shit... if i was a puppy.. this wouldn't be happening"... or a gay couple being hanged last thoughts were "if only we were kittens... this would not be happening and the world would care"


people can dress it up anyway you want... but at the end of the day, the behavior of choosing animals over people is just as disturbing as what the soldier is doing.

... and yeah. i get it... you are talking about this incident. the point everyone is totally ignoring is the simple FACT that you AREN'T talking about all the innocent people being killed. and thats pretty typical of people.

There is clear CUT when the dog is behind his body. Plush dog has been throwed.

150 little girls dying while people get pissed about an animal. and they wouldn't really even care about that, if that animal wasn't cute.

:uhoh :helpme

Why would a coulple of hillbiillies go through so much trouble to fake a video of themselves killing a puppy? Even if they did fake it, they are sick fucks.

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what can we do about the girls being raped? the children being used as shields? what can we do about this? NOTHING. We have no power or control or decision making ability to fix this.

WE CAN find and punish the person who threw this dog though. That is what I believe is bringing out the most compassion from people. The fact that we (a small group of people or a single individual) can do something about it.

If I can do something to save these 100 girls from being raped or punish those who did it, and have it happen right away, then by all means tell me what it is that we can do.

It's a natural emotional response to feel more for something we are all attached to. When a child is murdered, people who are parents have much stronger emotional thoughts to the story than someone who isn't a parent. Pet owners to stories about pets. Americans to Americans. Many of us are attached to pets emotionally, when we see a puppy being thrown off a cliff by an American soldier, it bothers us. When we hear a story about an Iraqi man who was killed, we don't have any emotional ties and thus don't feel the same.

You can call it disturbing but I think it's just a natural human response.

Thanks.

Kind of you to say.

/tiphat

I'm not missing that point at all, I don't think - however, as a U.S. citizen with various obligations, there's not a whole lot I can do about it on a global scale... except maybe keep doing what I'm doing by financially supporting organizations such as Amnesty International and the ACLU; calling/writing my representatives on various torture, human rights, and criminal release measures; and maybe serving my time as a juror when the opportunity comes along.

And I do all of that: regularly - as I'm sure others here do, as well.

Now, _you_ seem to think that just because witnessing a cold-blooded killing bothers us, we're all hypocrites because all of the other world's 'evils' haven't come to an end.

I have no problem seeing that there's other 'evils' in the world - but one thing at a time, eh? Show me a video of a U.S. soldier (as they're an entity that is reportable to _me_) killing a human outside the bounds of his/her duty as a solider - or raping someone, and I'll write and dispatch 3 letters, myself, tonight.

Until then... we got this to discuss and deal with.. (even if you don't think, as I do, it's all related, anyways)

And if you don't think there's enough being done in regards to the other 'evils' in the world - maybe get more involved, yourself, eh? There's always ways to become more involved... and you seem to have energy to expend on the issues.

Because I can't see the prospect of much success if running around and ranting "my 'evil' is more 'evil' than your 'evil'" all day.

I'm also going to add that I really think this video may be a fake. I don't know how you can throw a puppy that far and have it spin like that in mid-air. The yelping also doesn't really fade away as the dog moves farther away. The puppy never struggles in the guys arms either.

How do you know people don't care about what is happening to humans? This thread is about a puppy being killed not about injustices to humans.

Damn, that was brutal.