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LilBro 03-02-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13859396)
The guy is a sociopath. To compare this to anything in a war is just silly. He is taking pleasure in murdering a puppy in a sick way. I guess this can be expected now that the military has had to lower requirements to get in and don't seem to really care what their soldiers do.


i agree...

i wish i did not click on this thread :(

D 03-02-2008 06:16 PM

Guy needs to have his ass handed to him.

xxweekxx 03-02-2008 06:18 PM

pWned
..lol

bronco67 03-02-2008 06:22 PM

I usually hate when liberals will take any opportunity to show our troops in an ugly light, but this makes my blood boil. I hope they get that bastard.

campimp 03-02-2008 06:26 PM

they should let michael vick kick his ass and take his frustration out on him!!!!

from a disgruntled Va Tech alumni

Socks 03-02-2008 06:32 PM

I reported the video to cnn, fbi, army criminal relations, and peta. I hope it hastens his destiny.

ronbotx 03-02-2008 06:32 PM

Whats sad is that anti war crowd and America haters found on this board focus on is the 1 in 1000 bad apples rather than the 99%+ decent and honorable guys in military.

The same crowd has nothing at all to say when terrorists in Iraq turned women with Down's syndrome into remote control suicide bombers. I don't remember the outrage there.:mad:

VikingMan 03-02-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859475)
I reported the video to cnn, fbi, army criminal relations, and peta. I hope it hastens his destiny.

I have some nice contracts in the media. They just heard me roar.

These fuckers will be outed. I want their full names.

Spunky 03-02-2008 06:37 PM

Fucking cruel bastard

Socks 03-02-2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13859476)
Whats sad is that anti war crowd and America haters found on this board focus on is the 1 in 1000 bad apples rather than the 99%+ decent and honorable guys in military.

The same crowd has nothing at all to say when terrorists in Iraq turned women with Down's syndrome into remote control suicide bombers. I don't remember the outrage there.:mad:

Yes, it's easy to lose sight of the many good apples murdering families for the sake of profit on another continent for no apparently good reason other than money.

Location: Big D Baby, (TEXAS <RED STATE>) *USA* and Proud of it

Gee, what side of the fence do you sit on?

C_U_Next_Tuesday 03-02-2008 06:40 PM

50 tossed puppies...

poor little bisquit..makes me want to toss that fucker over the cliff .

pocketkangaroo 03-02-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13859476)
Whats sad is that anti war crowd and America haters found on this board focus on is the 1 in 1000 bad apples rather than the 99%+ decent and honorable guys in military.

The same crowd has nothing at all to say when terrorists in Iraq turned women with Down's syndrome into remote control suicide bombers. I don't remember the outrage there.:mad:

It's the same for cops and other things though. I think the honorable military guys should be upset with the <1% of the guys that do shit like this, not with critics.

Much like cops, military guys don't get in trouble for anything really and that perception can play down to civilians. You see a stunt like this and know he won't get in any trouble for it. If the military punished people for their actions, people would not be focusing on it as much. But most of us know nothing will happen to these guys.

ronbotx 03-02-2008 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859497)
Yes, it's easy to lose sight of the many good apples murdering families for the sake of profit on another continent for no apparently good reason other than money.

Location: Big D Baby, (TEXAS <RED STATE>) *USA* and Proud of it

Gee, what side of the fence do you sit on?

As an ex U.S. Army officer, I feel qualified to speak on the subject.

But I'm sure some Canadian leftist retard who never spent a day in the military knows more.....

D 03-02-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13859476)
Whats sad is that anti war crowd and America haters found on this board focus on is the 1 in 1000 bad apples rather than the 99&#37;+ decent and honorable guys in military.

The same crowd has nothing at all to say when terrorists in Iraq turned women with Down's syndrome into remote control suicide bombers. I don't remember the outrage there.:mad:

I'm outraged at all such atrocities. People that are fucktards need to be called out on being fucktards.

In this case: the fucker threw an innocent puppy off a cliff. The fact that he's representing me and my loved ones in this country and that my tax dollars (or, at least, the idea that I'll pay taxes for the next 50 years to pay back the debt the war's driving us into) are paying his salary only compounds the issue - and gives me a bit of personal involvement.

pocketkangaroo 03-02-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859497)
Yes, it's easy to lose sight of the many good apples murdering families for the sake of profit on another continent for no apparently good reason other than money.

It wasn't their choice to go to war. The government decides that.

Socks 03-02-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13859509)
As an ex U.S. Army officer, I feel qualified to speak on the subject.

But I'm sure some Canadian leftist retard who never spent a day in the military knows more.....

You have less say. You traded money for your family, so other familes could suffer.

You army guys always feel so high and mighty, like you've done some great service to mankind.

You're not 'fighting' for the world, you're fighting for your 'country' which by all accounts has been warmongering. Maybe you haven't seen a newspaper in the last 8 years though.

Socks 03-02-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13859511)
It wasn't their choice to go to war. The government decides that.

They joined the army to.... clean their gun?

If the US was *really* attacked by another country, and there was a real war that needed help, I would honestly enlist to help.

I haven't heard of any states being lost to the rebels though! :)

ronbotx 03-02-2008 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859515)
You have less say. You traded money for your family, so other familes could suffer.

You army guys always feel so high and mighty, like you've done some great service to mankind.

You're not 'fighting' for the world, you're fighting for your 'country' which by all accounts has been warmongering. Maybe you haven't seen a newspaper in the last 8 years though.

And what have you done for mankind.... expect sitting on your fat ass and bitching about something you know nothing about?

Socks 03-02-2008 06:49 PM

How does that work anyways, if you're in the Army and they go to some stupid war that you don't believe in, do you go to jail if you refuse to go? Or is it just some financial hardships through loss of your job?

Socks 03-02-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13859524)
And what have you done for mankind.... expect bitch about something you know nothing about?

I've lived peacefully. :winkwink:

Imagine if more people did it!

SHANESWORLD 03-02-2008 06:50 PM

if his commanding officer sees that video, he'll be facing a court martial

ronbotx 03-02-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SHANESWORLD (Post 13859529)
if his commanding officer sees that video, he'll be facing a court martial

That is correct...or some other form of punishment.

D 03-02-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859526)
How does that work anyways, if you're in the Army and they go to some stupid war that you don't believe in, do you go to jail if you refuse to go? Or is it just some financial hardships through loss of your job?

You go to jail.

In some, generally more pressing, cases, your commanding officer is allowed to kill you if you refuse to follow an order.

That's kinda standard for armed services the world-over, and seems practical enough. Dissension during battle isn't really a viable option. :2 cents:

halfpint 03-02-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13859476)
Whats sad is that anti war crowd and America haters found on this board focus on is the 1 in 1000 bad apples rather than the 99%+ decent and honorable guys in military.

The same crowd has nothing at all to say when terrorists in Iraq turned women with Down's syndrome into remote control suicide bombers. I don't remember the outrage there.:mad:

I am in no way a US hater. What that guy did was just plain wrong and there was no need for him to do that. I would have said exactly the same thing if it was a British soldier throwing a puppy of a cliff, and as you said most USA soldiers are not like this idiot on the clip.

ronbotx 03-02-2008 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859528)
I've lived peacefully. :winkwink:

Imagine if more people did it!

I'd say you reached your maximum level of capability. Stick with that.

TidalWave 03-02-2008 07:08 PM

So are you trying to defend what he did by using the "why are you hating on the USA" excuse?

This has NOTHING to do with the USA. It has to do with 1 person, being a complete fucking tool and needing to be punished for it. This has absolutely nothing to do with inter nation squabbles or issues.
I am not from the USA and the only thing I am upset about is what he did and how that reflects on the group of people he is with (them letting him do it). I am not generalizing the entire USA by this video though, so get off your defensive horse and help bring this idiot to justice.

Pleasurepays 03-02-2008 07:14 PM

funny how people can get so bent out of shape with an animal being killed... and care so little about people being killed.

if you are outraged at this video and not equally outraged about all the other men, women and children dying daily...then your not only a hypocrite, but you are just as disturbed as the soldier himself.

:2 cents:

VikingMan 03-02-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13859597)
funny how people can get so bent out of shape with an animal being killed... and care so little about people being killed.

if you are outraged at this video and not equally outraged about all the other men, women and children dying daily...then your not only a hypocrite, but you are just as disturbed as the soldier himself.

:2 cents:

It is not just the animal dying. It is the fact they did it for "fun". Do you want this guy around your family members? It is common for serial killers to have tortured animals before moving on to humans.

Also, 97% of people on this earth think whatever the elites want them to think. So to try to stop all wars is nearly futile. The slope-heads are always going to be there defending their governments no matter how obviously criminal the war is. The masses are just plain stupid and claim you are being unpatriotic for being anti war.

However this was a domesticated animal. These animals have been known to save lives of people while giving up their own. There is no reason to hurt them let alone throw a puppy off a cliff just for giggles.

pocketkangaroo 03-02-2008 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 13859518)
They joined the army to.... clean their gun?

If the US was *really* attacked by another country, and there was a real war that needed help, I would honestly enlist to help.

I haven't heard of any states being lost to the rebels though! :)

Many people join the army because they need to. They are either too poor to afford college or are stuck in a bad neighborhood with no way out. Recruitment stations are always setup in poor neighborhoods and they target young kids who are desperate.

While I'm sure there are kids who join thinking they'll get to shoot stuff up, the majority joined for other reasons. I almost joined the National Guard before college because I needed money to go. If I didn't get a scholarship, I'd have probably been forced to enlist. Most of these people in the military would rather be home with their families than off in a desert being shot at.

VikingMan 03-02-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHANESWORLD (Post 13859529)
if his commanding officer sees that video, he'll be facing a court martial

I have no idea how long ago this video came out but I have been on the phone with several animal rescue/animal rights people and none of them had seen it untill now.

Outrage is building and these 2 fucks will be outed. This will follow them for the rest of their lives I promise you.

tony286 03-02-2008 07:35 PM

Ron if you are a military guy,you should more upset than all of us. He disgraces the uniform that others wear with pride.

Pleasurepays 03-02-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 13859636)
It is not just the animal dying. It is the fact they did it for "fun". Do you want this guy around your family members? It is common for serial killers to have tortured animals before moving on to humans.

so killing children is ok if you have a decent reason?

i fail to see the difference other than people struggle to rationalize their reaction.

Quote:

Also, 97% of people on this earth think whatever the elites want them to think. So to try to stop all wars is nearly futile. The slope-heads are always going to be there defending their governments no matter how obviously criminal the war is. The masses are just plain stupid and claim you are being unpatriotic for being anti war.
oh... the "everyone is stupid" defense.

well.. thats certainly a good one for anyone who can't form a solid, well reasoned argument.

Quote:

However this was a domesticated animal. These animals have been known to save lives of people while giving up their own. There is no reason to hurt them let alone throw a puppy off a cliff just for giggles.
being domesticated makes it more objectionable?

i agree.. there is no good reason for it.



over a dozen childred died today in Gaza...anyone care? no.
tonight, a couple dozen little girls will be raped and murdered in Darfur? anyone have a problem with it? nope.

oh... a puppy died.. lets kill that fucker.



its just weird thats all.

NinjaSteve 03-02-2008 07:37 PM

That's some fucked up shit.

Socks 03-02-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D (Post 13859538)
You go to jail.

In some, generally more pressing, cases, your commanding officer is allowed to kill you if you refuse to follow an order.

That's kinda standard for armed services the world-over, and seems practical enough. Dissension during battle isn't really a viable option. :2 cents:

Well I meant before you left.. Like you signed up for the army during peace times, war is announced, do you have no options at this point if you don't believe in the war? Who wants to kill innocent people?

tony286 03-02-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13859650)
so killing children is ok if you have a decent reason?

i fail to see the difference other than people struggle to rationalize their reaction.



oh... the "everyone is stupid" defense.

well.. thats certainly a good one for anyone who can't form a solid, well reasoned argument.



being domesticated makes it more objectionable?

i agree.. there is no good reason for it.



over a dozen childred died today in Gaza...anyone care? no.
tonight, a couple dozen little girls will be raped and murdered in Darfur? anyone have a problem with it? nope.

oh... a puppy died.. lets kill that fucker.



its just weird thats all.

Those are all awful but no one made home movies of it like they did with the puppy and put it up on the net because they thought it was cute.

pocketkangaroo 03-02-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHANESWORLD (Post 13859529)
if his commanding officer sees that video, he'll be facing a court martial

I don't know. It seems in this war that they are trying to sweep this stuff under the rug. I don't think they would want to bring attention to this. They aren't even telling honored servicemen's families the truth about how their family member died (Pat Tillman).

VikingMan 03-02-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13859650)
so killing children is ok if you have a decent reason?

i fail to see the difference other than people struggle to rationalize their reaction.



oh... the "everyone is stupid" defense.

well.. thats certainly a good one for anyone who can't form a solid, well reasoned argument.



being domesticated makes it more objectionable?

i agree.. there is no good reason for it.



over a dozen childred died today in Gaza...anyone care? no.
tonight, a couple dozen little girls will be raped and murdered in Darfur? anyone have a problem with it? nope.

oh... a puppy died.. lets kill that fucker.



its just weird thats all.



Why you would take time out of your limited time here on earth to come into a thread about some sick fuck killing a puppy to argue with people expressing saddness and outrage is beyond me.

Instead of responding to each of your points I am going to spend my time contacting more people in the hopes of finding their names. :thumbsup

Martin 03-02-2008 07:45 PM

What a dick. That was just fucking cruelness.

Blazed 03-02-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 13859636)
It is not just the animal dying. It is the fact they did it for "fun". Do you want this guy around your family members? It is common for serial killers to have tortured animals before moving on to humans.

Some weed smokers move on to heroin and other hard drugs, so should everyone who smokes weed be treated as a possible crack head?

Its sad the dog was killed, but its not a big deal. I guess everybody here are vegetarians and dont eat meat, because that meat on your plate suffered its whole life until it was killled, that little puppy at least went quick.

Porno Dan 03-02-2008 07:51 PM

What the fuck.

I truly hope that was fake.


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