He is a disgrace, as a military guy and a human being. No argument there from me. My point was, that when bad behavior is displayed for all to see, it seems that the American and... Israeli Army are the ONLY bad guys.

There is so much cruelty going on all round the world. If you have ever been to the website nothingtoxic.com You will see clips of Russian soldiers having thier throats cut and all sort of other nasty shit that is happening all around us but everybody seems to turn a blind eye to it as it is "war" The world is full of sick assholes who have no regard for human life or who think nothing of blowing up kids or killing domesticated animals for the fun of it. We live in a sad cruel world with a lot of sick people and thats the sad truth of us so called "humans" This US soldier is just one of that group

So you're saying that whenever bad behaviour is displayed, it's always Americans and Israeli's?

Pretty accurate I'd say! We're starting to get along, you and me. :winkwink:

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You have a good point.

Speaking for myself I do not eat meat from factory farms. I buy eggs from a small farm where the chickens have better lives and eat more healthy than the average GFYer.

I don't even buy milk in the store. I buy it from a small farm where the goats must think they are in heaven.

Even though I eat this way for moral reasons it has an added benefit. Ask Porno Dan how old he thought I was when he met me the other night. It was nowhere near my real age.

If half the self absorbed people on this earth just realize that eating organic foods and meat/eggs/dairy from non-factory farms would make them look 10 years younger then their selfishness would actually do some good for a change.

People who use mentally disabled people for suicide missions are fucking assholes. People who throw puppies off of cliffs are also asssholes. so there you go, I had something to say.

Poor puppy :(

Karma can be a bitch. Remember that always.

some people call it "light in the mind" ...

no shit

and besides.. what would be the alternative for the puppy? Starve to death?

That was fucking disturbing.

There's no comparison at all. People eat meat to sustain their own health and their existence but people generally don't take delight in knowing that the poor cow or chicken or tuna fish or turkey suffered and died. It's just a sober reality, that we are omnivorous and we buy the end products of the animals to cook and consume without thinking much about the fact that that piece of meat used to be part of an animal with feelings.

This solder on the other hand didn't kill that puppy to eat it. He broke discipline and surely violated the codes of military justice by acting like a maniac just to entertain himself and some friends on the internet. He is supposed to be a professional and do his job, and get his recreation in a healthy manner, not go around torturing helpless animals for kicks.

good for you.. seriously. you are doing more than all the others who purport to "care" are doing.

again... its not that i think its wrong to throw a puppy off a cliff... its just odd that killing an animal can inspire such outrage and killing women and children is a non event.

i don't really get this about people. 90% of people just feign outrage to feel better about themselves for a few moments and give themselves a pat on the back and say "see, i'm a good person" - maybe thats all it is. if people really "cared" they would do something. if people care more about a dog than people, then they need their heads checked.

i believe that most people are totally insincere when they express outrage. not you... you apparently are taking a few moments to actually do something. everyone else won't... they will just make stupid remarks about how the guy deserves to die (as if that make any sense or is thinking thats any different than the soldiers)... then everyone goes back to work.

I agree. I hope that fuck comes back in a body bag.

:winkwink:If the puppy was injured or would have starved to death then I could see how shooting him would be the humane thing to do since they are in a warzone. But to make a video of you and your friends throwing a puppy off a cliff while laughing is a different story. Plus, I doubt the puppy died instantly. He may have just been left there to slowly die.

I hope he comes back to a community who shuns him. :thumbsup

That is fucked.

that would be a "good killing"?

or whats the rule?

killing someone is ok when a puppy is involved?

Another ruthless killer trained by Uncle Sam.:2 cents:

Karma is a bitch. A sniper won't miss his fucking head.:321GFY

What he did to the puppy was fucked up. I have had many pups/dogs over the years and they have all been a big part of my life.

However, it seems as if the majority of the time the level of outrage in these type of situations is based on how cute the animal is and not really that it is an animal. What if he threw a raccoon or a skunk over the edge?

I would imagine the outrage wouldn't nearly be the same.

What he did was fucked up and wrong. I just think sometimes people have to be a little more objective when looking at things like this. The guy is still a mental case and clearly unstable.

:2 cents:

Can't agree with you more. I would have accidently shot this guy's knees out if I was there. I have tons of respect for our soldiers but there are bad seeds everywhere.

100.........................

That's a sick ass cruel son of a bitch and the worst part is the sorry ass bastard did it for fun. He's a total disgrace to his uniform and the human race. I sent that link to every news organization I could think of. I hope the fucker at the very least gets shit beat out of him for what he did.

Anyone who gets pleasure out of torturing or killing gets no sympathy from me.

I truly understand your position. And I agree with some of your points but for me to watch someone do something like that with a big fat smile on his face yes I hope karma kicks in. That guy is a disgrace in uniform.

Good job.

I forwarded that link to several contacts I have in the media as well as military.

I have the utmost respect for American soldiers and believe that on average they represent the best and brightest of our society........ but that dumb fuck is a disgrace to his uniform, his country and to common decency. He should be kneecapped. :mad: I don't believe this idiot is representative of our fighting men and women in uniform who do their duty with honor and courage every day. :2 cents:

I hope that guy dies.

The subject at hand is this particular incident with a dog ....

You know, that guys jo involves hunting down and KILLING HUMANS. How can you expect him to care about a puppy? And with all the people dying, why do you care about a puppy?

What I said applies to times of peace, war, whatever.

yeah, they do that

Idiot .....

I agree.

Look at the comments in this thread compared to "Israeli Soldiers Use Children as Shield" one.. We got people in this thread writing to major news organization trying to track this guy down. There is not even close to the same outrage when kids are being used as human shields.

I blame PETA for this mentality

So what this soldier did was ok and the matter should be dropped?

The kids/shields is already being shown on major news and will be dealt with. Our anger over the kids/shields should prevent us from speaking up about the puppy ....... is that what you are saying?

Compare apples to apples. Same two American soldiers, same cliff, but instead of a puppy they fling a human toddler off the cliff on video and laugh as they do it. You had better believe that the outrage would be even worse.

AMERIKKKA! FUCK YA!!!!

lol

Of course not. What he did was wrong and should be dealt with, punished, etc. Like i said before, i have had dogs my whole life and they were/are a huge part of it.

However, in my opinion, when you start to equate human life with animal life in importance it gets dangerous. And from many posts in this thread, it seems people have that mentality.

I care more about my dog than anyone in your family. Does that make me a bad person?

That is my point.

Using Palestinian children as human shields is way worse in my opinion then throwing a puppy off a cliff.

there's some discussion going around that they're not Marines or Army based on the uniforms. More likely Blackwater mercs.

there's no insignia on the gear, and Blackwater wears military issue without patches and stuff.

No, but if you had to pick either your dog or a random human to die and you picked the human, then i would say you would be.