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Old 10-08-2002, 09:41 AM   #1
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Ladies, Why do all guys lie...

Ladies, help me out....why do all guys lie...no matter how good they have it, they still fuck up. I will never understand...
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we are built thinking no matter how good things are or hot hot the girl is, we can always do just a LITTLE bit better
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we are built thinking no matter how good things are or hot hot the girl is, we can always do just a LITTLE bit better
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Sweet. A useful thread.

I have a question about the opposite sex, too. Why are all chicks nuts? No matter how cool they start off, they always end up nuts. Why?
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:46 AM   #6
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:46 AM   #7
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Once the blowjobs stop after 2-3 years of relationship or sex becomes a thing of the past in the relation, we have to lie. Sorry about that.
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:47 AM   #8
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Ladies, help me out....why do all guys lie...no matter how good they have it, they still fuck up. I will never understand...

haa I know what you mean. It's our nature,live with that!
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:48 AM   #9
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:49 AM   #10
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we are built thinking no matter how good things are or hot hot the girl is, we can always do just a LITTLE bit better

Yes this is oh so true...I call this the lease agreement. Guys can be nice for 2 years maybe three, depending upon if the girl bitches to much. Then they turn the girl in and trade up for the new body style and better options. No money down...all you need is your same monthly payment!
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"I have a question about the opposite sex, too. Why are all chicks nuts? No matter how cool they start off, they always end up nuts. Why?"


My opinion, woman have so many options and free will these days and they dont know how to handle it.

Im so sick of girls that have emotional problems and need drugs like prozac just to get through the day.



I think the bigger problem is more a society thing though. Girls used to get married at a young age, have a family etc.

Now marriage isnt done that much, or put off to a much later age. Girls are much more permiscuous now and there isnt a stigma anymore of being a "slut". I think the end result is a lot of girls just arent respectable, so guys dont respect them.


This society has also de-masculined males, and made many men into spineless people that dont handle their responsiblities like a strong man.

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Old 10-08-2002, 09:51 AM   #12
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Maybe its when they think with their cock instead of their brain? Some sort of default setting?

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Old 10-08-2002, 09:52 AM   #13
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haha, guys lie, but in my experience they do it so horribly!!!
I call my man on it. The lil ones that is...the big ones i just calmly talk to him, even though i want to strangle him.
Guys lie, Girls lie...its nothing new...
now the thing about guys think they could always do better...
I have told all my exs and current man...try to find someone like me... I wish them good luck
Guys never know what they have until they screw up and get dumped or leave. But every so often you find one that does know what he has... and that is a KEEPER!
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:56 AM   #14
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I think women are bigger liar than men. Just ask the age of a girl - she will always tell you 16.
Ask her figure - she compare herself with any Miss Universe.
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:57 AM   #15
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Not all men lie. Your bad luck with relationships hardly reflects on all 3 billion of us. Get a grip.
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:59 AM   #17
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The reason guys lie? Three letters...S-E-X

You stop playing games with guys when it comes to sex, we stop lying trying to get it. If I was honest and said I only want to have sex with you, or that your friend was finer but you'll do, how much ass would I get? NONE! You all can't handle the truth. So enjoy the fairy tale we're building when you think we're actually listening to your rambling and don't forget the cab fare on the dresser and to close the door on your way out.
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:00 AM   #18
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All men lie..........huh. Just the other day I stopped by the moon and a leprachaun, and gave me a pot of gold. And while I was stopping at the Mercedes dealer for your new car on the way home......I almost got hit bye a flock of wayward albatross.........luckily my hunting guide was visting from the african plains and he shot them all. So thats why I am late home again ..........No shit.
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The men that lie only do so because many women have let them get away with it. Why do women stay in relationships with guys who lie, cheat, abuse, etc??? A guy is only going to do what he is trained to do. If you get mad at him when he goes out with his friends. He will bullshit you about doing something else and then go out with his friends. Unfortunately both men and women play games. And in those games there is so false statements made.

Guy to girl "You are the most beautiful women in the world"
Girl to Guy "Your cock is the best I have ever had"

I live by one truth... Men have hobbies, women have babies.

Guys love playing the safety blanket game. Women love it too. We all just play it different. Any women who gets secure enough in herself to be able to tell a guy to fuck off at the slightest bit of bullshit from him will win the battle.

For all you women out there. Get a hobby, be busy. Keep busy, keep the man wondering what you are doing all the time. Don't let your world revolve around him. I am not saying that all of you are like this, but many women are.

On top of that, be a positive person. There is a positive in any situation. Some times it will take a bit of digging to find it but it is always there.
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:32 AM   #21
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Sweet. A useful thread.

I have a question about the opposite sex, too. Why are all chicks nuts? No matter how cool they start off, they always end up nuts. Why?
You shouldn't have got me started with this post ...

I'm still pondering why some men lie. Not all do but most do.
I think it's the same reason we (girl)lie.Makes sense to me. I think it's okay to tell a little white lie once in a while.If it's going to hurt someone then don't lie and you know that you've done something wrong.

If you (men) cheat they'll usually lie because they don't want to hurt us. But I think what they don't realize is that it hurts us by lying to us. So by this time we're mad at two things (the fact that they cheated and that they lyed to us about it). Men don't dig your hole too deep....
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I don't lie. Please refrain from using your blanket statements that don't apply to everyone. If you mean to say "Ladies, why do most men lie?", then say that, but don't combine all men into your sleezy circle of aquaintences.
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Sweet. A useful thread.

I have a question about the opposite sex, too. Why are all chicks nuts? No matter how cool they start off, they always end up nuts. Why?
lol I forgot half my post
Okay I think when you start dating a girl she's gonna give you her best in everything. We have to bait you.Then once we've gotten you we let you see the real us.
When you first start going out with someone you can't really fight about things right? What the hell do you have to fight about,you just meet each other.

The way we've been treated by other men,our relationship with our father all have a part in this I think.
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I don't lie. Please refrain from using your blanket statements that don't apply to everyone. If you mean to say "Ladies, why do most men lie?", then say that, but don't combine all men into your sleezy circle of aquaintences.
What he said.

Hmmm...just edited this to add...

Then we could say why when you're truthful, open and honest to a woman will they fuck you about and screw behind your back?

Just like all men don't lie I have proof sitting next to be that all women don't do they above. There's a lot that do though. They don't want someone who's honest and treats them decently.

Problem with blanket statements is they can only ever be bullshit.
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i find it easier to put myself into a situation where i wouldn't have to lie. like, cheating - that's non-existant for me and my gf (longterm "toy", basically). i don't think i'd like to be in a relationship where sleeping with someone else every once in a while meant going behind the gf's back.

maybe if most women didn't push guys in to something they don't need (like a strict 1-on-1 relationship (boring)) it wouldn't happen as much.
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haha, guys lie, but in my experience they do it so horribly!!!
I call my man on it. The lil ones that is...the big ones i just calmly talk to him, even though i want to strangle him.
Guys lie, Girls lie...its nothing new...
now the thing about guys think they could always do better...
I have told all my exs and current man...try to find someone like me... I wish them good luck
Guys never know what they have until they screw up and get dumped or leave. But every so often you find one that does know what he has... and that is a KEEPER!

Oh thats so true. The part about telling them to try and find someone like you. Yeah sure in the beginning it will be all sunshine and lolipops but it all fades. Then their right back where they started.
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Men have no guilt! Most anyway, when it comes to sex and cheating. It's like a flaw in our dna!

Now me, I'm married so I can't lie and cheat anymore.
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Okay I think when you start dating a girl she's gonna give you her best in everything. We have to bait you.Then once we've gotten you we let you see the real us.
So it would seem, that's where it starts. Baiting.

Tara got her answer. Men lie to women, because women aren't honest from the start. Stop the baiting, be who you are, and then you can complain about men who lie. :P
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Yes this is oh so true...I call this the lease agreement. Guys can be nice for 2 years maybe three, depending upon if the girl bitches to much. Then they turn the girl in and trade up for the new body style and better options. No money down...all you need is your same monthly payment!
If this is how you really think thats just sad. It sounds like you're just in a relationship for thelust not actual love

You're going to go through life with many partners and you'll never find Mrs. Right.
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"Ladies, help me out....why do all guys lie...no matter how good they have it, they still fuck up. I will never understand."

Just because you think your man has it good, doesn't mean they think they have it good. That's like people who say "You'll be sorry for breaking up with me." That's bullshit. They're leaving for a damned good reason.
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Hey Sorry to offend anybody...I'll refraise...why do most guys lie?
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If you think our friend is hotter then why are you with us? Are you brain dead? lol Don't waste your timeon someone when you can have the one you want...and when you do get the "friend" you'll see she's not so perfect.
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That's like me asking "Why are all women gold-digging bitches?"


Sweeping generalizations like "All men....." or "All women...." are stupid, said by stupid narrow-thinking people. The fact is, if the men in your life are lying to you, then you should start choosing guys that aren't self-serving insecure bad-boy wannabes, and quit whining about your poor ability to find a real man.
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So it would seem, that's where it starts. Baiting.

Tara got her answer. Men lie to women, because women aren't honest from the start. Stop the baiting, be who you are, and then you can complain about men who lie. :P

I was and always am myself in a relationship. I feel that if you don't like me for who I am , than I dont want to be with that person. I have sooo much to offer someone, I don't care if they dont like the person I am, its their loss then.

How bout a man who lied that he went to get drinks with his ex girlfriend, and denied it to me ,and I spoke to his ex..she contacted me,(found an email in his account) and she said they talk all the time. He told me they only talked for legal purposes(long story). Meanwhile he gets mad at me when i get messages left on my answering machine from my ex...huh, the nerve of him...such a hypocrite.... ANd she knew nothing bout me ...just that we were friend...(he spends every day and night with me)Story is much more involved but I dont feel llike going in to it! Any way hope that clears up, what I meant.
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i find it easier to put myself into a situation where i wouldn't have to lie. like, cheating - that's non-existant for me and my gf (longterm "toy", basically). i don't think i'd like to be in a relationship where sleeping with someone else every once in a while meant going behind the gf's back.

maybe if most women didn't push guys in to something they don't need (like a strict 1-on-1 relationship (boring)) it wouldn't happen as much.
Why do you think 1 0n 1 relationships are boring? I've been in my relationship for 5 yrs now and I love it. I'm not trying to say we don't have our problems. He's never cheated or lied about something huge. Little lie that won't hurt me yes lol I think it's kinda funny the excuses they come up with

I love knowing that I have someone to come home to,that I wake up to the same man everyday and I can relie on him,that fact that I'm getting to know him more and more each day we're together. One on one relationships work as a team. Dating everyone that crosses your path doesn't.

I prefer 100% one on one
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:59 AM   #40
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So it would seem, that's where it starts. Baiting.

Tara got her answer. Men lie to women, because women aren't honest from the start. Stop the baiting, be who you are, and then you can complain about men who lie. :P
I didn't mean we lie big. I'm honest from the start ,I just meant that we're not going to bitch at you from the beginning if we don't even know you. Let us get to know you then we'll start "bitching".
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I was and always am myself in a relationship. I feel that if you don't like me for who I am , than I dont want to be with that person. I have sooo much to offer someone, I don't care if they dont like the person I am, its their loss then.

How bout a man who lied that he went to get drinks with his ex girlfriend, and denied it to me ,and I spoke to his ex..she contacted me,(found an email in his account) and she said they talk all the time. He told me they only talked for legal purposes(long story). Meanwhile he gets mad at me when i get messages left on my answering machine from my ex...huh, the nerve of him...such a hypocrite.... ANd she knew nothing bout me ...just that we were friend...(he spends every day and night with me)Story is much more involved but I dont feel llike going in to it! Any way hope that clears up, what I meant.
I know you guys have been friends for a long time but dating for not that long. I think the best way to look at this is if he is lying and hiding things this early in the relationship what is going to happen later on. This is his type of personality. I mean if he felt that he could trust you he would have told you all this right from the get go. So this to me sounds like he has some trust issues. Either that or he still likes his ex and wants to keep her on the side and find out what he really wants you or her. Either way my advice to you would be to run for the hills. If she didn't know about you, how do you know there isn't another woman out there that neither of you know about. Or in the future will not know about?

Follow the advice I have always followed from my pops....

The heartache only lasts till the next piece of ass!

You are too good for bullshit like that. No one man or women should put up with bullshit like that. And if you do you are going to give him a signal that he can fuck up and just say he is sorry and come scrambling back to you and you will be ok with it. Too many women do this and then the guy just takes advantage of them and then they give most nice MEN a bad name.
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1 on 1 means that if your SO is on a work trip for a week you can't do anything but whack it.. boring. or if she's bitchy for some reason you can't solve/help with.. you can't go out and relax with someone else. i'm not saying i expect perfection from a gf but if she's having a rough week and isn't so interested in sex, why should i suffer?
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I was and always am myself in a relationship. I feel that if you don't like me for who I am , than I dont want to be with that person. I have sooo much to offer someone, I don't care if they dont like the person I am, its their loss then.

How bout a man who lied that he went to get drinks with his ex girlfriend, and denied it to me ,and I spoke to his ex..she contacted me,(found an email in his account) and she said they talk all the time. He told me they only talked for legal purposes(long story). Meanwhile he gets mad at me when i get messages left on my answering machine from my ex...huh, the nerve of him...such a hypocrite.... ANd she knew nothing bout me ...just that we were friend...(he spends every day and night with me)Story is much more involved but I dont feel llike going in to it! Any way hope that clears up, what I meant.
So your bf is an insecure dope who lies. :P If I based all women on one of my ex's I'd be depopulating Connecticut right now of all females with a machine gun.

Dump him. If you let him act like this, he'll keep doing it. Someone already said, people treat you like you allow them to treat you. If you let him get all possessive and jealous and controlling, he'll keep trying to do it.

He's not gonna change....Dump him and find someone else who you can actually be with and treats you well.

And until then, you owe me food for oral sex :P I haven't forgotten that. :P
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I agree totally with Eric_aka_RedEyes. If my bf ever cheated which includes :sexualy talk with other ppl,kissing,touching,sex,oral etc... I would dump his ass.NP!

Fatpad think about this...I don't "bait" men thats not exactly what I meant. I mean I start dating you and we're going to get along great. So there's no need to bitch about anything...right? Right !!!

We begin to bitch when we ask you over and over to pick up your dirty clothes,when you're done with your dishes put them in the kitchen etc etc...Things like that and you men seem to think thats bitching. But if you did it the 1st time we asked then we'd have np
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Fatpad think about this...I don't "bait" men thats not exactly what I meant. I mean I start dating you and we're going to get along great. So there's no need to bitch about anything...right? Right !!!

We begin to bitch when we ask you over and over to pick up your dirty clothes,when you're done with your dishes put them in the kitchen etc etc...Things like that and you men seem to think thats bitching. But if you did it the 1st time we asked then we'd have np
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I was and always am myself in a relationship. I feel that if you don't like me for who I am , than I dont want to be with that person. I have sooo much to offer someone, I don't care if they dont like the person I am, its their loss then.

How bout a man who lied that he went to get drinks with his ex girlfriend, and denied it to me ,and I spoke to his ex..she contacted me,(found an email in his account) and she said they talk all the time. He told me they only talked for legal purposes(long story). Meanwhile he gets mad at me when i get messages left on my answering machine from my ex...huh, the nerve of him...such a hypocrite.... ANd she knew nothing bout me ...just that we were friend...(he spends every day and night with me)Story is much more involved but I dont feel llike going in to it! Any way hope that clears up, what I meant.

I don't know you but from what it sounds like you're not too happy If I were you I would leave him.He's lying about something big don't waste your time with him.You're worth much more

P.S Think of it this way if he had nothing to hide why didn't he tell you
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You stop playing games with guys when it comes to sex, we stop lying trying to get it. If I was honest and said I only want to have sex with you, or that your friend was finer but you'll do, how much ass would I get? NONE! You all can't handle the truth. So enjoy the fairy tale we're building when you think we're actually listening to your rambling and don't forget the cab fare on the dresser and to close the door on your way out.
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We begin to bitch when we ask you over and over to pick up your dirty clothes,when you're done with your dishes put them in the kitchen etc etc...Things like that and you men seem to think thats bitching. But if you did it the 1st time we asked then we'd have np
nah, thats not how it works. if we do it the 1st time then it's completely forgotten if we don't do it the next time. or if we do it we're asked why we don't do it all the time. usually skips that supposed "1st time". it's all hassle. why bother thinking about doing something every single time if when we forget once we'll get bitched at anyways. might as well think about other more important shit (yes, cleaning is not high on my list of importance) like what position you're gonna use tonight. ;)
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