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Old 02-07-2008, 08:05 PM   #1
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DOUCHEBAG alert! Don't do biz with this designer.

Fucking punk... this character, "Jay", took some money from me a long time ago to do some designs and work on one of my sites orientalxxxpress.com.

STAY AWAY, SCAMMER --> JAY - ICQ 410207269 AND 267027751 <-- STAY

After a couple of miscommunications and other bullshit things happen, he switches to another ICQ account and says some story about life, drama, sorry - but can he make it up?

I said sure and gave him a chance to make it up.

So after SIX weeks, he comes to me asking for more money, and I tell him "Dude, are you nuts? You didn't even deliver on the first project!"

Hello?

Hello?

No answer.

So today, I post a thread about needing a designer. Jay sends me an ICQ - luckily for me, trillian keeps the log right in plain sight. I see that my last words to him were "go fuck yourself". I do some research into the history, and recall the bad taste in my mouth from the last time we did business.

Well, I'm not the type to trip on things, and rather than get in an argument - I just told him no thanks, I have already found someone else to do the work. He goes away for a bit.... THEN MESSAGES ME FROM THE OTHER ACCOUNT!!!!

God dammit, if you had just left well enough alone, I would rather NOT have wasted my time typing this shit. But it's obvious that this guy didn't just leave me high and dry as a one time thing - it's a habit and a way of doing business for him. He messaged me from another account, forgetting that I had told him off on both of them...

So tonight our convo goes like this:

Jay: hello
Jay: still looking for designer
Jay: hello
wolfy: no thanks Jay
Jay: hehe
Jay: why bro
Jay: i want to help you
wolfy: you owe me from the last time I did business with you
wolfy: I paid you and you never sent me the PSD files for this: (list of examples)

...... no reply yet.



Lesson - stay away from this guy.

Fucking assclowns like him give the 5% of decent designers out there a bad name.

STAY AWAY, SCAMMER --> JAY - ICQ 410207269 AND 267027751 <-- STAY AWAY, SCAMMER.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:15 PM   #2
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thats fucked, what a total fucking cockbag
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:17 PM   #3
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next time hit me up... i aint going anywhere... ;)
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:35 PM   #4
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I'll keep you in mind Headless.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:38 PM   #5
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Add Toby from Raleigh to that list.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:17 PM   #6
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I Had bad experience with this guy also.
He wanted to work full time for us. We setup a deal.
In 3 weeks he did a couple of banners and some FHG and the ugliest header ever seen for a gay site.
I think it's the same guy that run bannerants.com but I can't confirm.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:29 PM   #7
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Sorry to hear that. There are some really good designers out there.

I know personally I usually just get payment when the client is happy. They are usually pretty trustworthy and will offer to pay up front or a deposit.

Guess you just have to go by referrals these days.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:29 PM   #8
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I've had my fair share of shady deals in my tenure as a webmaster, but it's not often someone like this tries to pull the same shit on me twice.

fucking douchebags.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:45 PM   #9
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sorry to see such a bad experience. check us out and keep us in mind... been in biz for 10+ years
www.envisionext.com / www.AdultDesign.com
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:51 PM   #10
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sorry to see such a bad experience. check us out and keep us in mind... been in biz for 10+ years
www.envisionext.com / www.AdultDesign.com
thanks, I think I'll hit you up in a minute actually, after I check out some more of your mainstream work.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:04 PM   #11
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bump because JAY still hasn't answered my last ICQ... and I'm pretty sure he's burned a few people since then.
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:09 PM   #12
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Thanks for the heads up, I was close to doing something with him
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:59 AM   #13
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:12 PM   #14
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Thanks for the heads up, I was close to doing something with him
That just made it worth my time to write the post in the first place. Glad I could save you the hassle.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:16 PM   #15
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:22 PM   #16
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:25 PM   #17
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I believe this is the same jay that used to run BannerDept and fucked several people out of money. He got us good and unfortunately there are several companies here who still do business with him because he hasn't screwed them YET! I have all his personal information and next time I'm the area he will be getting a visit, and not a very nice one I might add.

Feel free to hit me up and I will share all of it.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:44 PM   #18
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:52 PM   #20
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dude, you totally took advantage of me.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:54 PM   #21
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where this designer came from? any site of him?
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There is a guy with that name on ICQ that hits me up daily asking for work.

No Idea where he came from....
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:24 PM   #23
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That just made it worth my time to write the post in the first place. Glad I could save you the hassle.
Best to learn about it now
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fuck that - thanks for the heads up
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:29 AM   #25
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here's one of his sites - where he hosted some of the work he did for me before bailing.


http://pornmediax.com/
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that's a shitty deal. Sorry to hear that
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Old 02-10-2008, 06:16 AM   #27
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a lot of people that go by Jay around here too.
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Fucking assclowns like him give the 5% of decent designers out there a bad name.

STAY AWAY, SCAMMER --> JAY - ICQ 410207269 AND 267027751 <-- STAY AWAY, SCAMMER.
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His he in the philipines?
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sorry to hear that....
i hope your money will be back...
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